How can we convince colleagues that online Professional Development is as valuable as face-to-face?

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How can we convince colleagues that online Professional Development is as valuable as face-to-face?

Transcript for January 5, 2011 9 p.m. GMT

9:00 pm Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat – pls join into our conversation !
9:00 pm sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat – pls join into our conversation !
9:01 pm vickyloras: @Marisa_C Thank you! #ELTchat
9:01 pm Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat
9:01 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat > mine too – pls join into our conversation !
9:01 pm rliberni: RT @Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat
9:02 pm Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 and @vickyloras will help me with moderationso @riberni can go back to her trainees 🙂 #ELTchat
9:02 pm bcnpaul1: so, does anyone have any examples of where they’ve encouraged online PD succesfully #eltchat
9:02 pm rliberni: @Marisa_C thanks Marisa @cecilialcoelho will represent us as we play charades! #eltchat
9:03 pm bcnpaul1: I know I’ve tried (as have others) but converting people is difficult #eltchat
9:03 pm sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat Finally got 3 colleagues to join Twitter (1 today!) @Lilinka21 🙂
9:03 pm esolcourses: RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat > mine too – pls join into our conversation !
9:03 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat
9:03 pm esolcourses: RT @bcnpaul1: so, does anyone have any examples of where they’ve encouraged online PD succesfully #eltchat
9:03 pm sandymillin: RT @bcnpaul1: I know I’ve tried (as have others) but converting people is difficult #eltchat
9:03 pm bcnpaul1: @sandymillin how did you manage it? #eltchat
9:04 pm SueannaN: Sorry I’m late #ELTchat
9:04 pm Marisa_C: I think it was @Sueannan who suggested this topic and it was the most popular in our poll #ELTchat
9:04 pm sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat By keep telling them about all the amazing things I’ve found through my PLN – now have to get them to use it nt jst look!
9:04 pm Marisa_C: Do any of you face problems with colleagues #ELTchat
9:04 pm carlaraguseo: In open online PD you don’t get a certificate but you are empowered as a teacher. #ELTchat
9:05 pm vickyloras: It may be useful to show them a sample of online PD,to see what is going on #ELTChat
9:05 pm bcnpaul1: @sandymillin I think that’s sometimes the big thing – getting ppl to stay interested #eltchat
9:05 pm Marisa_C: RT @carlaraguseo: In open online PD you don’t get a certificate but you are empowered as a teacher. #ELTchat
9:05 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat – pls join into our conversation !
9:05 pm Marisa_C: RT @vickyloras: It may be useful to show them a sample of online PD,to see what is going on #ELTChat
9:05 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: @sandymillin I think that’s sometimes the big thing – getting ppl to stay interested #eltchat
9:05 pm esolcourses: @bcnpaul1 I’ve had some success with getting collegues to use online tools, but no joy with social media tools or blogging #eltchat
9:05 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C: I think it was @Sueannan who suggested this topic and it was the most popular in our poll #ELTchat
9:06 pm JoshSRound: @sandymillin brilliant! Thanks!!! #eltchat
9:06 pm Marisa_C: RT @esolcourses: @bcnpaul1 I’ve had sm success with getting collegues to use online tools, but not w/social media tools or blogging #eltchat
9:06 pm cecilialcoelho: For the next hour my tweets will be for #ELTChat
9:06 pm sandymillin: #eltchat @bcnpaul1 :@Lilinka21 has also just finished COLT (IH Cert in Online Teaching) so had push from there too
9:06 pm JoshSRound: Having my tea but will try to chip in. Really interested in how to persuade colleagues about valuable online PD #eltchat
9:06 pm esolcourses: Most of my collegues are seriously overworked – when I try to get them interested, usual response is “not enough hours in the day” #ELTChat
9:06 pm sram_socrates: @esolcourses our principal has had some success with the blogging aspect but SM is still a struggle #eltchat
9:06 pm vickyloras: Some find it difficult to believe that Twitter is one of the best ways of PD you can get-until I describe to them what we are doing #ELTChat
9:06 pm carlaraguseo: I’ve been inviting colleages to EVO for years.Little more and more teachers are joining and inviting more collegues to join in. #ELTchat
9:07 pm europeaantje: RT @esolcourses: Most of my collegues are seriously overworked – when I try to get them interested, usual response is “not enough hours in the day” #ELTChat
9:07 pm bcnpaul1: @esolcourses that’s thing I think – some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat
9:07 pm cecilialcoelho: @esolcourses I have the same response Sue… I tell them you give as much time as you want #ELTChat
9:07 pm DaveDodgson: Hello all. A little late but ready for another round of #ELTchat
9:07 pm Marisa_C: RT @carlaraguseo: I’ve been inviting colleages to EVO for years. more teachers are joining and inviting more collegues to join in. #ELTchat
9:07 pm europeaantje: RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks’ #eltchat
9:07 pm DaveDodgson: RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat
9:07 pm cecilialcoelho: @DaveDodgson #ELTchat Better late than never 😉
9:08 pm Marisa_C: @carlaraguseo Great! Will be doing some sessions on one of the EVO courses this year!!! 🙂 #ELTchat
9:08 pm SueannaN: RT @europeaantje: RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks’ #eltchat
9:08 pm sandymillin: #eltchat Most teachers here (and everywhr I thnk) have so mny demands on their time) – how can we mk attrctive wthout seeming timeconsuming?
9:08 pm carlaraguseo: I’ve seen a great change in teachers’ attitude in #Arg although many are still reluctant #ELTchat
9:08 pm bcnpaul1: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Most teachers here (and everywhr I thnk) have so mny demands on their time) – how can we mk attrctive wthout seeming timeconsuming?
9:08 pm europeaantje: RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat | oh yes
9:08 pm JoshSRound: @vickyloras absolutely agree vicky, colleagues I’ve mentioned twitter to simply raise their eyebrows #eltchat
9:08 pm cecilialcoelho: My biggest problem is showing colleagues the many benefits of online PD #ELTChat
9:08 pm sandymillin: #eltchat Also difficult for techphobics
9:08 pm chriscattaneo: RT @Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat
9:08 pm Marisa_C: RT @europeaantje: RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks’ #eltchat
9:08 pm Marisa_C: RT @cecilialcoelho: My biggest problem is showing colleagues the many benefits of online PD #ELTChat > u not the only one
9:08 pm graingered: @Marisa_C You can’t because it isnt. Not to devalue online PD, but in-person trumps online in so many meaningful ways. #ELTchat
9:08 pm DaveDodgson: RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks #ELTchat
9:08 pm SueannaN: RT @europeaantje: RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat | oh yes
9:09 pm bcnpaul1: it’s true – ppl think twitter & blogging / reading blogs is for geeks #eltchat
9:09 pm sandymillin: #eltchat Maybe we could come up with a 3 minute YouTube on quickly joining in online PD – easier to access / respond to than many webpages!
9:09 pm europeaantje: @cecilialcoelho my colleahues see the benefits but don´t get into it #ELTChat
9:09 pm vickyloras: @sram_socrates Hi Shawn!Nice to see you here again – welcome! #ELTChat
9:09 pm JoshSRound: @sandymillin #eltchat time management is very much an issue – how do ppl deal with info overload?
9:09 pm Marisa_C: RT @graingered: @Marisa_C You can’t because it isnt. Not to devalue online PD, but in-person trumps online in so many ways. #ELTchat
9:09 pm chriscattaneo: ?@bcnpaul1: it’s true – ppl think twitter & blogging / reading blogs is for geeks #eltchat? That is changing a bit…..
9:09 pm bcnpaul1: and that geeks = negative but there’s so much there to stimulate our work #eltchat
9:09 pm cecilialcoelho: @europeaantje That’s what happened after my sharing session Guido, a couple even joined twitter, but never tweeted after that #ELTChat
9:10 pm sram_socrates: @JoshSRound favorite, bookmark, store and deal with it when U have time #eltchat
9:10 pm Marisa_C: @graingered I do both as a trainer and each one has a different type of value and for different reasons and stages in a T’s career #ELTchat
9:10 pm sandymillin: @JoshSRound #eltchat Info overload is about filtering – easier for me as I grew up with this, but takes practice
9:10 pm DaveDodgson: @bcnpaul1 A lot of people think of Twitter as a purely social tool as well (I certainly used to!) #ELTchat
9:10 pm Marisa_C: RT @JoshSRound: @vickyloras absolutely agree vicky, colleagues I’ve mentioned twitter to simply raise their eyebrows #eltchat
9:10 pm bcnpaul1: @ChrisCattaneo I agree – let’s hope it continues #eltchat
9:10 pm vickyloras: @JoshSRound Yes!In the beginning they cannot quite realize what is happening…until they see it! #ELTChat
9:10 pm cecilialcoelho: @ChrisCattaneo I agree with you on that Chris…changing, but too slowly for my taste #eltchat
9:10 pm europeaantje: @cecilialcoelho think 10 of my colleagues r on twitter: 1 lurks 1 only retweets, rest dropped it #ELTChat
9:10 pm sandymillin: RT @sram_socrates: @JoshSRound favorite, bookmark, store and deal with it when U have time #eltchat <normal response = what time?
9:11 pm sram_socrates: @DaveDodgson I did too at first, but one needs to experience it and invest a little time to understand the benefits #eltchat
9:11 pm Marisa_C: @JoshSRound Fellow course tutors/teacher trainers have the same sort of reaction – so why wonder? It begins with us the trainers #eltchat
9:11 pm brightideasblog: RT @esolcourses: Most of my collegues are seriously overworked – when I try to get them interested, usual response is “not enough hours in the day” #ELTChat
9:11 pm carlaraguseo: Online PD implies active engagement and participation in your professional community. Empowrement #ELTchat
9:11 pm cecilialcoelho: @vickyloras I get that too Vicky… I have heard “You think twitter is the best thing, don’t you? ” a couple of times… Yes I do! #ELTChat
9:11 pm bcnpaul1: @DaveDodgson exactly – that’s what needs to be communicated – that it’s much more than what i had for breakfast #eltchat
9:11 pm sandymillin: RT @sram_socrates: @DaveDodgsonone needs to experience it and invest a little time #eltchat<investing time is the hard part
9:11 pm europeaantje: RT @cecilialcoelho: @vickyloras I get that too Vicky… I have heard “You think twitter is the best thing, don’t you? ” a couple of times… Yes I do! #ELTChat
9:11 pm sram_socrates: @sandymillin There is always time, in the tub, at the doc office, nightly reading slowly is better then never #eltchat
9:12 pm Marisa_C: RT @sram_socrates: @DaveDodgsonone needs to experience it and invest a little time #eltchat<investing time is the hard part
9:12 pm esolcourses: @cecilialcoelho @europeaantje have had the same thing happen as well, i.e. people to sign up to Twitter, but they don’t tweet #ELTChat
9:12 pm vickyloras: @graingered Yes,but now in the time of video and Skype,even online PD has become more personalized in my opinion #ELTChat
9:12 pm Marisa_C: RT @sram_socrates: @sandymillin There is always time, in the tub, at the doc office, nightly reading slowly is better then never #eltchat
9:12 pm DaveDodgson: An issue for some teachers I know is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – they want PD to contained in work hours #ELTchat
9:12 pm DinaDobrou: Hello all. #eltchat
9:12 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 @esolcourses I agree with you Paul, but at the same time I’ve gotten a couple of ppl to at least look at it coz of my it #eltchat
9:12 pm Marisa_C: RT @DaveDodgson: An issue for some teachers I know is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – they want PD in work hours #ELTchat
9:12 pm JoshSRound: @sandymillin #eltchat yes, have marked faves to read later, often struggle to get round to doing it, still good intentions 🙂
9:12 pm bcnpaul1: @DaveDodgson i agree but wonder if that’s something to do with enjoying teaching as well #eltchat
9:13 pm europeaantje: @cecilialcoelho @ChrisCattaneo @esolcourses mind you i had been on twitter for 7months before i started tweeting so hope not dead #ELTChat
9:13 pm sandymillin: RT @DaveDodgson: An issue is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – PD to contained in work hours #ELTchat <my cllgs believe!
9:13 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 @esolcourses (re material and resources we learn about in twitter and blogs) #eltchatprevious tweet
9:13 pm vickyloras: @cecilialcoelho Same here!I tell them I’ve learnt more in a yr than in uni for 4,without wanting to underestimate that time either #ELTchat
9:13 pm DaveDodgson: @bcnpaul1 You may have a point there 😉 #ELTchat
9:13 pm chriscattaneo: RT @DaveDodgson: An issue for some teachers I know is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – they want PD to contained in work hours #ELTchat
9:13 pm carlaraguseo: @JoshSRound Agree. Big change starts when teacher trainers get it and share it with trainees #ELTchat
9:13 pm sandymillin: RT @bcnpaul1: @DaveDodgson i agree but wonder if tht’s something to do with enjoying teaching as well #eltchat <think it could be! love job!
9:13 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: @JoshSRound Fellow course tutors/teacher trainers have the same sort of reaction – so why wonder? It begins with us the trainers #eltchat
9:13 pm chriscattaneo: RT @europeaantje: @cecilialcoelho @ChrisCattaneo @esolcourses mind you i had been on twitter for 7months before i started tweeting so hope not dead #ELTChat
9:13 pm vickyloras: @DinaDobrou Kalos orises – welcome, Dina! #ELTChat
9:14 pm Marisa_C: A lot of state school Ts in Greece have similiar attitude – PD in working hours & be paid for it too! #ELTchat – other countries?
9:14 pm SueannaN: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD implies active engagement and participation in your professional community. Empowrement #ELTchat
9:14 pm DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C @DaveDodgson True, and some don’t want to bother learning how to use yet Another social medium. #ELTchat
9:14 pm bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat
9:14 pm europeaantje: RT @ChrisCattaneo: @esolcourses @cecilialcoelho @europeaantje I think it’s ok to lurk for a while, don’t you ? #eltchat
9:14 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat
9:14 pm chriscattaneo: @esolcourses @cecilialcoelho @europeaantje I think it’s ok to lurk for a while, don’t you ?? #ELTchat
9:15 pm esolcourses: @ChrisCattaneo @europeaantje @cecilialcoelho absolutely fine to lurk – ppl I know don’t lurk, tho – they signed up, then dropped it #ELTChat
9:15 pm Marisa_C: RT @europeaantje: I think it’s ok to lurk for a while, don’t you ? #eltchat> A time for lurking is not bad – to get used to the medium
9:15 pm bcnpaul1: @europeaantje lurking’s absolutely fine – I think ppl are afraid to tweet #eltchat
9:15 pm vickyloras: RT @bcnpaul1 I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a gr8energiser #eltchat >>Same here,brink of burnout
9:15 pm sandymillin: RT @vickyloras: RT @bcnpaul1 I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a gr8energiser #eltchat >>Same here,brink of burnout
9:15 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat
9:15 pm Marisa_C: @DinaDobrou DIna, how long did it take you before u got ur first tweet out? #ELTchat
9:15 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started twting – online PD is a gr8 energiser #eltchat > Same here, gave me new air
9:15 pm esolcourses: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD implies active engagement and participation in your professional community. Empowrement #ELTchat
9:15 pm DaveDodgson: @bcnpaul1 Is it fair to say teachers who want to be involved in online PD will be? Difficult to engage the others? #ELTchat
9:15 pm bcnpaul1: i try to tell ppl they don’t have to tweet – just follow lots of ppl and get ideas / twittertim.es / follow #eltchat etc.
9:15 pm vbenevolofranca: Coming in a bit late here. Sort of think it has 2 do with “learning” & “training” styles. #eltchat
9:15 pm europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 for as much as we are welcoming people twitter´s still a bit daunting at first 🙂 #eltchat
9:16 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: i try to tell ppl they don’t have to tweet – just follow lots of ppl and get ideas / twittertim.es / follow #eltchat etc.
9:16 pm SueannaN: I feel more empowered and more enthusiastic after an #ELTchat session. It shows in the classroom, which has to be a good thing, surely
9:16 pm bcnpaul1: RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 for as much as we are welcoming people twitter´s still a bit daunting at first 🙂 #eltchat > definitely agree
9:16 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: : @bcnpaul1 for as much as we are welcoming people twitter´s still a bit daunting at first 🙂 #eltchat > definitely agree
9:16 pm DaveDodgson: @cecilialcoelho And at Christmas, new hair as well :p #ELTchat
9:16 pm sram_socrates: @ChrisCattaneo Totally understand your pain, it seems most days I talk more to my PLN than my colleagues #eltchat
9:16 pm cecilialcoelho: @DaveDodgson @bcnpaul1 I think you’re mostly right Dave, but some can be “lured”in #ELTchat
9:16 pm chriscattaneo: ?@sandymillin: #eltchat Maybe we could come up with a 3 minute YouTube on quickly joining in online PD – (cont) http://tl.gd/7uoqsa
9:16 pm cecilialcoelho: @DaveDodgson Of course… a commplete new hairdo and a possible side career!!! 😉 #ELTchat
9:17 pm JoshSRound: @cecilialcoelho Have to admit to doing plenty of lurking since joining twitter – lots to digest initially #eltchat
9:17 pm vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C This is true as well here in Brazil. I understand this: some struggle 2 make a living teaching in 3 different schools! #ELTChat
9:17 pm esolcourses: Took me a month or two at least to figure out Twitter, and even after that, a few more months b4 I really started to see the point #ELTchat
9:17 pm vickyloras: @vbenevolofranca It is about how to convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as f2f – Hi Valeria! #ELTCHat
9:17 pm bcnpaul1: @cecilialcoelho ‘lured in’ 🙂 sounds a bit dodgy! 🙂 #eltchat
9:17 pm Marisa_C: Wrote a blog post about that sm time ago – was a bit fed up but got some v g comments by PLNhttp://bit.ly/9EM79e #ELTchat
9:17 pm europeaantje: RT @JoshSRound: @cecilialcoelho Have to admit to doing plenty of lurking since joining twitter – lots to digest initially #eltchat
9:17 pm cecilialcoelho: @JoshSRound I think we all go through that Josh…scary at first, intimidating really #eltchat
9:18 pm DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C It was quite a while. And, yes, I did lurk at the beginning. But even that was useful. #ELTchat
9:18 pm europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho “luring in the lurkers” hahaha #eltchat
9:18 pm sandymillin: RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho “luring in the lurkers” hahaha #eltchat
9:18 pm bcnpaul1: I think lurking has to translate into participation at some point though – agree? #eltchat
9:18 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 Bad choice of words… my bad 😉 Let’s say some can be shown the light??? Too ethereal?? LOL #eltchat
9:18 pm Marisa_C: @graingered I agree they complement each other – there are elements of teaching (esp Teaching Practice) which need to be done f2f #ELTchat
9:18 pm vickyloras: RT @SueAnnan Feel more empowered and more enthusiastic after an #ELTchat session.Shows in the classroom,which has to be a good thing,surely
9:18 pm sram_socrates: @europeaantje I would say that lurking is always a good way to start, U get to understand how things works #eltchat
9:18 pm chriscattaneo: RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho “luring in the lurkers” hahaha #eltchat
9:19 pm Marisa_C: RT @DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C It was quite a while. And, yes, I did lurk at the beginning. But even that was useful. #ELTchat > 🙂
9:19 pm europeaantje: RT @sram_socrates: @europeaantje I would say that lurking is always a good way to start, U get to understand how things works #eltchat
9:19 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C Wrote a blog post about that sm time ago – was a bit fed up but got some v g comments by PLN http://bit.ly/9EM79e #ELTchat
9:19 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 Lurking moves into participation when confidence is built. But sometimes it takes one to reach the other. Make sense? #eltchat
9:19 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Wrote a blog post about that sm time ago – was a bit fed up but got some v g comments by PLN http://bit.ly/9EM79e #ELTchat
9:19 pm SueannaN: My Online PD even raised an eyebrow at recent BC inspection #eltCHAT
9:19 pm bcnpaul1: @cecilialcoelho maybe, although I like it – what about ‘enticed’ mmm, still dodgy 🙂 #eltchat
9:19 pm sram_socrates: RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat
9:19 pm Marisa_C: @vbenevolofranca Same info re France – at #TESOLfr state school Ts only a v small handful – even though f2f!!! #ELTChat
9:20 pm Xiniaa: @Marisa_C In Jordan, PD is done on the weekend without overtime or compensation- no wonder teachers hate it #ELTchat #Jo
9:20 pm bcnpaul1: @SueAnnan ooh – explain #eltchat
9:20 pm vbenevolofranca: @vickyloras Hi Vicky! True, does take time to convince trainers. They need to experience it! #ELTchat
9:20 pm DaveDodgson: Perception is an issue too: eg some colleagues dont get the idea of online conferences. They dont believe you just log on & watch #ELTchat
9:20 pm chriscattaneo: I think good moderation is useful….where new contributors to chats like this r acknowledged and welcomed #eltchat
9:20 pm sandymillin: #eltchat Come into my web, said the spider to the fly 😉
9:20 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @ChrisCattaneo: I think good moderation is useful….where new contributors 2 chats like this r acknowledged & welcomed #eltchat > Agree!
9:20 pm bcnpaul1: @cecilialcoelho perfect sense – noone should be forced or pushed but there’s so much more to be gained thru interaction #eltchat
9:20 pm sandymillin: RT @chriscattaneo: I think good moderation is useful….where new contributors to chats like this r acknowledged and welcomed #eltchat
9:20 pm DinaDobrou: I shld probably send my colleagues a copy of the transcript to convince them cos other ways of inviting them on here didn’t work. #ELTchat
9:21 pm vickyloras: @graingered Surely not,but has made things easier and a bit more personal #ELTChat
9:21 pm wellingtonros: RT @DinaDobrou: I shld probably send my colleagues a copy of the transcript to convince them cos other ways of inviting them on here didn’t work. #ELTchat
9:21 pm bcnpaul1: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Come into my web, said the spider to the fly 😉
9:21 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 And sometimes you need to start interacting, push yrself to it to see u can contribute #eltchat
9:21 pm sandymillin: RT @DinaDobrou: I shld probably send my colleagues a copy of the transcript . #ELTchat <first transcripts I read confused me so much I stpd
9:21 pm bcnpaul1: @cecilialcoelho definitely. I think there are so many benefits #eltchat
9:21 pm SueannaN: @bcnpaul1 I think that the inspectors were not very switched on to tech themselves, and didn’t really see it as a positive thing #eltchat
9:21 pm esolcourses: RT @SueAnnan: My Online PD even raised an eyebrow at recent BC inspection #eltCHAT ] hope it was the good kind of raised eyebrow…
9:22 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 I felt very intimidated and that I had nothing to contribute at first… Sometimes still do, but go ahead anyway #eltchat
9:22 pm bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat
9:22 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat
9:22 pm Xiniaa: @europeaantje @marisa_c Not for in-service teachers; it’s mandatory #ELTchat #Jo
9:23 pm JoshSRound: @DaveDodgson We come back to the idea that real world & face 2 face is always more stimulating. Hard one to overcome #eltchat
9:23 pm cecilialcoelho: Am not going to mention any names (@wellingtonros ) but am trying to get a friend across the table to do his 1st #ELTChat tweet
9:23 pm Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 In fact there have been some grt convos here WHILE following online conferences or webinars #eltchat
9:23 pm sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Online PD is also great for those of us that are in remote loactions #eltchat
9:23 pm bcnpaul1: @SueAnnan that sounds like a very BC thing 🙂 #eltchat
9:23 pm DaveDodgson: RT @bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat
9:23 pm SueannaN: @esolcourses Unfortunately not 🙁 #eltCHAT
9:23 pm sandymillin: RT @cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 felt very intimidated, I had nothing to contribute at first… Sometimes still do, but do newy #eltchat <me 2
9:23 pm carlaraguseo: Some collegues are not used to being in control of their own PD when, where, with whom #ELTchat
9:23 pm esolcourses: RT @DaveDodgson: some colleagues dont get the idea of online conferences. They dont believe you just log on & watch #ELTchat
9:23 pm bcnpaul1: RT @cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 And sometimes you need to start interacting, push yrself to it to see u can contribute #eltchat
9:23 pm vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat
9:23 pm Marisa_C: RT @sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Online PD is also great for those of us that are in remote loactions #eltchat > absolutely
9:23 pm europeaantje: vamos! @wellingtonros #ELTChat
9:23 pm DinaDobrou: RT @vickyloras: RT @SueAnnan Feel more empowered and more enthusiastic after an #ELTchatsession.Shows in the classroom..>Mini workshop
9:24 pm europeaantje: RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 In fact there have been some grt convos here WHILE following online conferences or webinars #eltchat
9:24 pm DinaDobrou: RT @europeaantje: vamos! @wellingtonros #ELTChat
9:24 pm SueannaN: RT @bcnpaul1: @SueAnnan that sounds like a very BC thing 🙂 #eltchat Yes but reinforces prejudice among colleagues
9:24 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat
9:24 pm esolcourses: @SueAnnan oh dear… have to admit to being disappointed and surprised by that #ELTChat
9:24 pm JoshSRound: RT @DaveDodgson: RT @bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat
9:24 pm bcnpaul1: @JoshSRound why do you think f2f is more stimulating #eltchat
9:24 pm carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat
9:24 pm sandymillin: RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way. #ELTchat <it’s the will you have to encourage!
9:25 pm JoshSRound: RT @cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 I felt very intimidated and that I had nothing to contribute at first… Sometimes still do, but go ahead anyway #eltchat
9:25 pm vickyloras: RT @sram_socrates : @Marisa_C Online PD is also great4 those of us that are in remote locations #eltchat >>Definitely!Excellent point Shawn
9:25 pm Marisa_C: So, What solutions can think up? Can anyone suggest a solution? (this is my talk at IATEFL tho I didn’t propose the topic 😀 #ELTchat
9:25 pm europeaantje: @vickyloras there you said it Vicky “we love it” but we cant force anyone to love PD #ELTchat
9:25 pm DaveDodgson: @JoshSRound When I did a webinar, many of my colleagues thought I’d be going to some kind of studio to do it! #ELTchat
9:25 pm SueannaN: RT @sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Online PD is also great for those of us that are in remote loactions #eltchat> I agree entirely
9:25 pm sandymillin: RT @bcnpaul1: @JoshSRound why do you think f2f is more stimulating #eltchat <depends on who f2f is with!
9:25 pm bcnpaul1: @SueAnnan very true #eltchat
9:26 pm willycard: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat
9:26 pm DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C Almost all have emails. Send them the #ELTchat transcript?
9:26 pm Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat
9:26 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat > Hear hear Carla!
9:26 pm SueannaN: RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat
9:26 pm wellingtonros: RT @europeaantje: @vickyloras there you said it Vicky “we love it” but we cant force anyone to love PD #ELTchat But we can show its benefits
9:26 pm DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat
9:26 pm chriscattaneo: Everyone on the Online Tutoring course i did recently already had some/a little online experience. Question is…where to START?? #ELTChat
9:26 pm DaveDodgson: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat
9:26 pm vickyloras: @europeaantje You’re right….only if they are really interested Guido : ) #ELTChat
9:26 pm zbpipe: RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat
9:26 pm europeaantje: RT @Marisa_C: So, What solutions can think up? Can anyone suggest a solution? (this is my talk at IATEFL tho I didn’t propose the topic 😀 #ELTchat
9:26 pm carlaraguseo: It’s a different learning culture #ELTchat
9:26 pm sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Yet these are also the same PPL that complain at PD that they are bored or they wouldn’t have chosen it #eltchat
9:26 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat
9:27 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: So, What solutions can think up? Can anyone suggest a solution? (this is my talk at IATEFL tho I didn’t propose the topic 😀 #ELTchat
9:27 pm DaveDodgson: @Marisa_C Whenever I attend/present at a conference, I get funny looks from the same people. “Why give up your Saturday?” #ELTchat
9:27 pm cecilialcoelho: @Marisa_C MAybe an idea would be DOS “suggesting” Ts taking part in a webinar??? So they could see one of the benefits firsthand? #ELTchat
9:27 pm bcnpaul1: @JoshSRound I agree f2f is stimulating but online PD can connect you with so many more ppl that you wd otherwise not meet. #eltchat
9:27 pm Marisa_C: RT @carlaraguseo: It’s a different learning culture #ELTchat > And has nothing to do with age may I also add
9:27 pm esolcourses: RT @cecilialcoelho: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat > Same here!
9:27 pm vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C I actually like to show people round and p artner with them for their first try. #eltchat
9:27 pm chriscattaneo: @zbpipe @vickyloras #ELTchat time and money…
9:27 pm JoshSRound: @DaveDodgson Haha! Hhmm, yes, some of mine prob wd as well. I attended a #besig webinar a mth or 2 back – was gr8t. #eltchat
9:27 pm vickyloras: @Marisa_C Perhaps organising a mini-workshop,demonstrating one to let them see the benefits #ELTChat
9:27 pm SueannaN: RT @DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C Almost all have emails. Send them the #ELTchat transcript? I have colleags who don’t read their emails!!
9:27 pm gret: @sram_socrates @Marisa_C Agreed. I think passion for teaching is connected with your attitude towards PD #ELTChat
9:27 pm Marisa_C: RT @vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C I actually like to show people round and p artner with them for their first try. #eltchat
9:28 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat
9:28 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: RT @vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C I actually like to show people round and p artner with them for their first try. #eltchat
9:28 pm sandymillin: RT @cecilialcoelho: @Marisa_C MAybe idea wud b DOS “suggsting” Ts tking part in a webinar??? #ELTchat <only works if DOS into tech! mine not
9:28 pm cecilialcoelho: @Marisa_C I think Wellington remembered a valid point : online PD can be quite affordable 🙂 #ELTchat
9:28 pm GlogsterEDU: An all-boys school glogs on Women’s Rights: http://bit.ly/h6zKaS #elemchat #cpchat #edchat#teaching #ELTchat
9:28 pm europeaantje: @Marisa_C have organised voluntary workshops with some limited results #eltchat
9:28 pm Marisa_C: @vbenevolofranca Your idea of mentoring ‘newbies” is great – I think this is perhaps essential and neglected – taken for granted #eltchat
9:28 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat ] suspect in many cases, that’s probably true
9:29 pm cecilialcoelho: @sandymillin @Marisa_C Could u convince yr DOS to it maybe? Get him/her onboard with the idea? #ELTchat
9:29 pm DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat
9:29 pm sram_socrates: RT @gret: @sram_socrates @Marisa_C Agreed. I think passion for teaching is connected with your attitude towards PD #ELTChat
9:29 pm JoshSRound: @sandymillin true, but you get a set time and place to do it, tea & biscuits too sometimes!! #eltchat
9:29 pm Marisa_C: In Second Life, for example, no one comes into a conference w/o going through a ‘newbie phase #ELTchat – may be same for twitter?
9:29 pm SueannaN: RT @DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat good point
9:29 pm wellingtonros: RT @gret: @sram_socrates @Marisa_C Agreed. I think passion for teaching is connected with your attitude towards PD #ELTChat
9:29 pm sram_socrates: @gret @Marisa_C I couldn’t agree more PD – passion #eltchat
9:29 pm DinaDobrou: @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Quite true but let’s try at least with the ones who DO read them. #ELTchat
9:29 pm sandymillin: @cecilialcoelho #eltchat have been trying to convince DOS, bt she’s currently doing 1.5 ppl’s jobs and running CAM, so pretty busy ,& in USA
9:29 pm willycard: #ELTchat THE greatest things about online PD via Twitter and Blogs is that it’s not top-down + controlled + timed + hierarchical + linear
9:30 pm europeaantje: re mentoring : i´ve learned more bout IWB software observing a colleague in the staffroom using it than by attending workshops #eltchat
9:30 pm sram_socrates: RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat ] suspect in many cases, that’s probably true
9:30 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin Oh… I know … it’s so frustrating, isn’t it! #ELTchat
9:30 pm cecilialcoelho: I’ve had great response to introducing to PLN and asking for a welcome… PLN is always very supportive. #ELTChat
9:30 pm sandymillin: RT @DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat
9:30 pm vbenevolofranca: RT @DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat> Gr8 point
9:30 pm europeaantje: @sandymillin she needs to delegate! #eltchat
9:30 pm Xiniaa: @Marisa_C Incentive and positive reinforcement- but you know the saying about taking a horse to the river;) #ELTchat
9:30 pm bcnpaul1: often in-house PD is paid but online PD isn’t – maybe if it was more ppl would do it #eltchat
9:30 pm esolcourses: @Marisa_C I do think tho that some ppl who genuinely struggle to find time to fit PD in, as I’ve been in that situation myself #ELTchat
9:30 pm cecilialcoelho: @sandymillin U think Ts would come if you were in charge? Would the DOS agree to it? #eltchat
9:31 pm DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat
9:31 pm SueannaN: I think it does go back to the trainers. if we introduce it as just another part of the toolkit, we may have more success #ELTChat
9:31 pm europeaantje: RT @cecilialcoelho: I’ve had great response to introducing to PLN and asking for a welcome… PLN is always very supportive. #ELTChat
9:31 pm bcnpaul1: RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C I do think tho that some ppl who genuinely struggle to find time to fit PD in, as I’ve been in that situation myself #ELTchat
9:31 pm sram_socrates: @DaveDodgson Blogs can be very intimidating, plus blogging is solo twitter you can learn from everyone #eltchat
9:31 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @europeaantje: @Marisa_C have organised voluntary workshops with some limited results #eltchat > Me too Guido.
9:31 pm Marisa_C: RT @Xiniaa: @Marisa_C Incentive and positive reinforcement- but you know the saying about taking a horse to the river;) #ELTchat > 😀 I do!
9:31 pm bcnpaul1: RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat >yes
9:31 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C: @vbenevolofranca Your idea of mentoring ‘newbies” is great – I think this is perhaps essential and neglected – taken for granted #eltchat
9:31 pm cybraryman1: RT @Marisa_C: @vbenevolofranca Your idea of mentoring newbies” is great – I think this is perhaps essential and neglected…. #Eltchat
9:31 pm sandymillin: RT @europeaantje: @sandymillin she needs to delegate! #eltchat <have been trying to help!
9:32 pm Marisa_C: I offered some free webinars to newbies and even those had little response #ELTchat
9:32 pm carlaraguseo: @willycard PD via Twitter – Blogs is not top-down + controlled + timed + hierarchical + linear <Yes! but many ppl afraid of that! #ELTchat
9:32 pm vickyloras: RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat
9:32 pm sandymillin: RT @cecilialcoelho: @sandymillin U think Ts would come if you were in charge? #eltchat Poss..will be my IHBrno Conference topic 😉
9:32 pm esolcourses: RT @willycard: #ELTchat THE greatest things about online PD via Twitter and Blogs is that it’s not top-down + controlled + timed + hierarchical + linear
9:32 pm DinaDobrou: RT @cecilialcoelho: I’ve had great response to introducing to PLN and asking for a welcome… PLN is always very supportive. #ELTChat
9:32 pm DaveDodgson: @sram_socrates Agreed but I meant recommending blogs to read before directing someone to twitter #ELTchat
9:32 pm sram_socrates: RT @bcnpaul1: RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat >yes
9:32 pm JoshSRound: @bcnpaul1 Absolutely agree. An incredible new network #eltchat
9:32 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @DaveDodgson: Twitter best place 2 start? Perhaps direct ppl to blogs first? – not so frantic! #ELTchat > U might have a point Dave.
9:33 pm chriscattaneo: RT @bcnpaul1: RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat >yes
9:33 pm esolcourses: RT @SueannaN: I think it does go back to the trainers. if we introduce it as just another part of the toolkit, we may have more success #ELTChat
9:33 pm carlaraguseo: Online PD is an attitude #ELTchat
9:33 pm cecilialcoelho: @sandymillin Fingers crossed for success at it!!!! May you convert many 😉 #eltchat
9:33 pm bcnpaul1: essentially, the best way to encourage online PD is to show how much it helps you – that’s worked where I work #eltchat
9:33 pm Marisa_C: RT @JoshSRound: @bcnpaul1 Absolutely agree. An incredible new network #eltchat
9:33 pm vickyloras: My dad is a great fan of ours and he is not even a teacher!He says our PD is amazing : ) #ELTChat
9:33 pm SueannaN: @vickyloras There’s a great Free session on mentoring in the EVO sessions #eltchat
9:33 pm JoshSRound: RT @SueannaN: I think it does go back to the trainers. if we introduce it as just another part of the toolkit, we may have more success #ELTChat
9:34 pm sandymillin: RT @vickyloras: My dad is a great fan of ours and he is not even a teacher!He says our PD is amazing : ) #ELTChat <my mum too!
9:34 pm Marisa_C: @DinaDobrou But while doing a f2f course (like Dina when doing her CELTA) it’s difficult fr trainees to juggle everything #ELTChat
9:34 pm vickyloras: @SueAnnan Oh yeah,thank you for that Sue! #ELTChat
9:34 pm vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C Too true! V frustrating experience with SL.Got chucked out once because couldn’t control avatar! Twitter doesn’t do that! #eltchat
9:34 pm sandymillin: @SueAnnan #eltchat Can you retweet EVO link? Can’t find it!
9:34 pm sram_socrates: @DaveDodgson Ahh I understand – yes you are very correct, gather the information read and then wade into the waters #eltchat
9:34 pm vickyloras: @sandymillin Ha ha – super parents! #ELTChat
9:35 pm europeaantje: @wellingtonros i very much believe in workshops too, wellington but in this case i was able to discover & try new features w time #eltchat
9:35 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin It will be in the transcript #eltchat
9:35 pm sandymillin: RT @vickyloras: @sandymillin Ha ha – super parents! #ELTChat I agree! 🙂
9:35 pm SueannaN: @sandymillin I will if I can find it #eltchat
9:35 pm europeaantje: RT @wellingtonros: @europeaantje You may hav a point there, but workshops are quite nice to exchange ideas and develop yours…#eltchat
9:35 pm cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN Stars http://cybraryman.com/plnstars.html #Eltchat
9:35 pm sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin It will be in the transcript #eltchat Thanks!
9:35 pm carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions, but it may lead to a new professional performance #ELTchat
9:35 pm gret: RT @cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN Stars http://bit.ly/iaeHjZ#Eltchat
9:35 pm Marisa_C: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions, but it may lead to a new professional performance #ELTchat
9:35 pm informed_edu: #eltchat In my school our best PD is done when we sit in cross-curricular groups and share good ideas. I introduced Twitter this way.
9:35 pm sram_socrates: RT @gret: RT @cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN Starshttp://bit.ly/iaeHjZ #Eltchat
9:35 pm sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchat YET, but hopefully it will be
9:35 pm bcnpaul1: @cecilialcoelho working with YLs is good. if other t’s see you having less discipline probs they want that too 🙂 #eltchat
9:36 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin It will be in the transcript #eltchat Thanks Marisa
9:36 pm steve__kirk: Coming in very late… #eltchat
9:36 pm cybraryman1: RT @sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchatYET, but hopefully it will be #Eltchat
9:36 pm steve__kirk: David White (Oxford U) talks about digital ‘visitors’ and ‘residents’. Perhaps PD needs to encourage Ts to move twds the latter #eltchat
9:36 pm Marisa_C: true online not recognised – can’t imagine getting brownies for clocking into twitter – and YET it’s all happening HERE! #ELTchat
9:36 pm DaveDodgson: Of course, it doesn’t help when Twitter and many blogs are blocked by my school’s webmaster :p #ELTchat
9:36 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN Starshttp://cybraryman.com/plnstars.html #Eltchat
9:36 pm carlaraguseo: EVO link http://tinyurl.com/29wrpdj #ELTchat
9:36 pm ECEWebinars: RT @cybraryman1: RT @sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchat YET, but hopefully it will be #Eltchat
9:37 pm sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: EVO link http://tinyurl.com/29wrpdj #ELTchat Thanks!
9:37 pm europeaantje: @sram_socrates don´t agree: blogs are basically reading (leave comment opt) twitter obviously faster & more furious #eltchat
9:37 pm Marisa_C: RT @steve__kirk: David White talks about digital ‘visitors’ & ‘residents’. Perhaps PD needs to encourage Ts to move twds the latter #eltchat
9:37 pm bcnpaul1: @DaveDodgson twitter’s blocked! I thought where I worked was bad for that, but twitter…!! #eltchat
9:37 pm vickyloras: RT @informed_edu #eltchat In my schl best PD is done when we sit in cross-curricular groups&share gd ideas.I introduced Twitter this way.
9:37 pm Marisa_C: @steve__kirk #eltchat woul dbe good if you supplied a link to that reference pls
9:37 pm sram_socrates: @DaveDodgson the issue of blocking and security is big #eltchat – was the topic of dis yesterday in #edchat
9:37 pm steve__kirk: ‘visitors’ see the web as ‘tools’. Residents see it as participatory spaces. Is this the problem? Ts as visitors?? #eltchat
9:37 pm Marisa_C: Wow my co mods rock! #ELTchat
9:37 pm chriscattaneo: RT @informed_edu: #eltchat In my school our best PD is done when we sit in cross-curricular groups and share good ideas. I introduced Twitter this way.
9:37 pm sram_socrates: RT @cybraryman1: RT @sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchat YET, but hopefully it will be #Eltchat
9:38 pm bcnpaul1: @Marisa_C :)) #eltchat
9:38 pm DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C Introduced on our last day to tech, I find it true.Got lots of sites I didn’t know wht to do with!Maybe more emphasis on #ELTchat?
9:38 pm bcnpaul1: my feet have gone to sleep #eltchat
9:38 pm chriscattaneo: RT @Marisa_C: Wow my co mods rock! #ELTchat
9:38 pm DaveDodgson: @bcnpaul1 Yep, Twitter is blocked, Facebook isn’t – what does that tell you? #ELTchat
9:38 pm steve__kirk: How can we help Ts move from visitor to resident status for PD? #eltchat
9:38 pm sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat as long as your typing fingers are still awake, doesn’t matter 😉
9:38 pm bcnpaul1: @DaveDodgson that’s really interesting #eltchat
9:38 pm vickyloras: RT @carlaraguseo EVO link http://tinyurl.com/29wrpdj #ELTchat
9:38 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions, but it may lead to a new professional performance #ELTchat
9:39 pm Marisa_C: @DinaDobrou On your course difficult – your 2 tutors were very anti-edtech but in future courses being v careful abt it now #ELTchat
9:39 pm esolcourses: @gret @cybraryman1 good idea! @barbsaka has a great starter PLN list of friendly, helpful educators as well http://bit.ly/9ojtBB #ELTChat
9:39 pm bcnpaul1: do ppl use facebook for PD? #eltchat
9:39 pm wellingtonros: RT @DaveDodgson: @bcnpaul1 Yep, Twitter is blocked, Facebook isn’t – what does that tell you? #ELTchat same for the at school…it’s s***
9:39 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: true online not recognised – can’t imagine getting brownies for clocking into twitter – and YET it’s all happening HERE! #ELTchat
9:39 pm cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 I’m starting to Paul…still not sure how to do it #eltchat
9:39 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: do ppl use facebook for PD? #eltchat > I organise quite a lot of it on FB
9:39 pm carlaraguseo: @sandymillin #ELTchat In Spain they’ve been working on a petition http://tinyurl.com/2ubc7zf haven’t heard of anything like that in #Arg
9:39 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @esolcourses: @gret @cybraryman1 good idea! @barbsaka has a great starter PLN list of friendly, helpful educators as well http://bit.ly/9ojtBB #ELTChat
9:39 pm bcnpaul1: @wellingtonros welcome to #eltchat 🙂
9:40 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C Wow my co mods rock! #ELTchat >>Mwah!
9:40 pm willycard: On the other hand, Twitter discussions/chats lack continuity, follow-up. It wld b good e.g. to have this same #ELTchat l8er 2 assess its use
9:40 pm cybraryman1: Have a Smackdown session showing great tools and sites http://cybraryman.com/smackdown.html#Eltchat
9:40 pm sram_socrates: @europeaantje Yes, but if you come to your first twit convo session and try to keep up it is very fast and intimidating #eltchat
9:40 pm europeaantje: @steve__kirk think one can develop by being a visitor to the web, admittedly faster when a resident. for me twas a normal evolution #eltchat
9:40 pm chriscattaneo: RT @willycard: On the other hand, Twitter discussions/chats lack continuity, follow-up. It wld b good e.g. to have this same #ELTchat l8er 2 assess its use
9:40 pm Marisa_C: @willycard do you mean twice in a row? #ELTchat
9:40 pm sandymillin: RT @bcnpaul1: @wellingtonros welcome to #eltchat 🙂
9:41 pm bcnpaul1: RT @cybraryman1: Have a Smackdown session showing great tools and sites http://bit.ly/f29Lpx#Eltchat >smackdown.. taht’s a new word for me
9:41 pm steve__kirk: Digital visitors and residents link http://bit.ly/2eMR7u #eltchat
9:41 pm sandymillin: RT @sram_socrates: @europeaantje but come to your first twit convo session and try to keep up it is very fast and intimidating #eltchat
9:41 pm DaveDodgson: @willycard But we do have the podcast & several people following up discussions with blog posts… #ELTchat
9:41 pm vickyloras: Twitter, Facebook (I’ve seen,not on it), Skype,chat rooms,anything tech can help forward PD #ELTChat
9:41 pm Marisa_C: @sram_socrates you should see what happened to me on my first moderation !!!! Even more confusing! But u do get used to it #eltchat
9:41 pm gret: RT @vickyloras: Twitter, Facebook (I’ve seen,not on it), Skype,chat rooms,anything tech can help forward PD #ELTChat
9:42 pm cecilialcoelho: @willycard They may lack continuity but many times they are a spark that may result in a blog post or a conference session #ELTchat
9:42 pm steve__kirk: RT @europeaantje: @steve__kirk think one can develop by being a visitor to the web – me too, but we’re not the ‘problem’ !! #eltchat
9:42 pm bcnpaul1: @sram_socrates keeping up with these convos is VERY difficult – luckily we have the transcript #eltchat
9:42 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: @willycard do you mean twice in a row? #ELTchat or read the transcript?
9:42 pm wellingtonros: RT @cecilialcoelho: @willycard They may lack continuity but many times they are a spark that may result in a blog post or a conference session #ELTchat
9:42 pm sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Yes, was my experience my first time as well, but yes you have to work through it, works if you are ADHD #eltchat
9:42 pm chriscattaneo: @Marisa_C @willycard #ELTchat Would have to be longer
9:42 pm willycard: @Marisa_C no, I mean maybe a month later, so we can try things out, the ideas that come up, and give feedback. #ELTchat
9:42 pm Marisa_C: @sram_socrates te he he 😀 #eltchat
9:42 pm cybraryman1: @steve__kirk There are different levels of digitalness and comfort with tech as well as access #Eltchat
9:42 pm sandymillin: RT @ChrisCattaneo: @Marisa_C @willycard #ELTchat Would have to be longer <maybe 6 months later, summarise first convo, ask for progress
9:43 pm sandymillin: RT @cybraryman1: @steve__kirk There are different levels of digitalness and comfort with tech as well as access #Eltchat
9:43 pm carlaraguseo: @DaveDodgson @willycard The discussion is distributed across the web #ELTchat
9:43 pm chriscattaneo: RT @cecilialcoelho: @willycard They may lack continuity but many times they are a spark that may result in a blog post or a conference session #ELTchat
9:43 pm vickyloras: RT @cecilialcoelho : @willycard They may lack continuity but many times are spark that may result in a blog post or a conf session #ELTchat
9:43 pm Marisa_C: @willycard I think perhaps u might have a point – a blog post would be good to summarise main points bt we often don’t have time #ELTchat
9:43 pm bcnpaul1: RT @vickyloras: RT @cecilialcoelho : @willycard They may lack continuity but many times are spark that may result in a blog post or a conf session #ELTchat
9:43 pm willycard: #ELTchat For example, today we talked about material development and there were great ideas. Ideally, we’d try ’em out and then talk about
9:44 pm LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat
9:44 pm sram_socrates: @bcnpaul1 true, but when I first tried , I was like I need some red bull – then I was informed about the transcript – helpful #eltchat
9:44 pm sandymillin: RT @willycard: #ELTchat For example, today we talked about material development Ideally, we’d try ’em out and then talk about <yes
9:44 pm gret: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat
9:44 pm europeaantje: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat
9:44 pm bcnpaul1: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat >me too
9:44 pm sandymillin: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat <always the ‘where 2 start’
9:44 pm cecilialcoelho: @willycard @ChrisCattaneo I like the idea Willy / Chris. A schedule ELTChat feedback chat #ELTchat
9:44 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin @willycard If #ELTchatters offer we could ask for occasional volunteering to sum up discussions #ELTchat
9:44 pm cybraryman1: RT @gret: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-thats how they came alive for me #Eltchat
9:45 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @bcnpaul1: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recmmend using blogs & Twitter together-that’s how they came alive 4 me #eltchat >me too > me three
9:45 pm bcnpaul1: RT @cecilialcoelho: @willycard @ChrisCattaneo I like the idea Willy / Chris. A schedule ELTChat feedback chat #ELTchat > great idea
9:45 pm sandymillin: #eltchat would be willing to try to sum up! @Marisa_C
9:45 pm vickyloras: @willycard That would be great,to try out ideas and then talk about them to demonstrate how they worked out #ELTChat
9:45 pm sram_socrates: @bcnpaul1 Would agree with that suggestion – It also helps to have a mentor to ask questions to #eltchat
9:45 pm SueannaN: I’ve just been helping Beyza in Turkey with her Doctoral research via Skype. Without my online pD would never have imagined that #eltCHAT
9:45 pm esolcourses: RT @cybraryman1: RT @gret: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-thats how they came alive for me #Eltchat
9:45 pm steve__kirk: @sandymillin tech vs access: absolutely, but many of my colleagues see only the ‘tech’ & not the pedagogical/PD possibilities #eltchat
9:46 pm cecilialcoelho: @LukeMeddings I do feel blogging is even more intimidating than ELTChat / twitter / Commenting on blogs all together #eltchat
9:46 pm Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat@Marisa_C
9:46 pm JoshSRound: @LukeMeddings True, twitter & blogs go together very well…Just another addition to potential info overload though. #eltchat
9:46 pm europeaantje: @steve__kirk IMO diff btw visitor – resident is the communication/conversation. will watch vid later again #eltchat
9:46 pm bcnpaul1: RT @SueAnnan: been helping Beyza in Turkewith her Doctoral research via Skype. Without my online pD would never have imagined that #eltCHAT
9:46 pm gret: @LukeMeddings That’s how I got engaged too. Lurking, slowly getting involved, commenting and few months later I was writing my blog #ELTChat
9:46 pm sandymillin: @cecilialcoelho @lukemeddings #eltchat not necessarily blogging, just reading blogs
9:46 pm bcnpaul1: @JoshSRound that’s the key isn’t it -PD without overload #eltchat
9:46 pm DaveDodgson: Another issue with showing your PLN to someone is that they want the same thing immediately but of course building a PLN takes time #ELTchat
9:47 pm Marisa_C: I think repeats can get messy – never sure if same people will turn up etc #ELTchat then u say same stuff all over again – cont.
9:47 pm cecilialcoelho: @SueAnnan Agree Sue… Am currently in Yorkshire on a PD Workshop that would never had happened w/o my being on twitter #eltCHAT
9:47 pm Marisa_C: RT @Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat @Marisa_C
9:47 pm cybraryman1: From tweets & chats I capture great sites My ELL EFL ESL pageshttp://cybraryman.com/eflellesl.html #Eltchat
9:47 pm europeaantje: RT @Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat | online PD also tech factor?
9:47 pm esolcourses: @cybraryman1 @cecilialcoelho @bcnpaul1 @gret @LukeMeddings find Twitter seems to spark a fair number of my blog posts off #ELTChat
9:47 pm willycard: @ChrisCattaneo @Marisa_C re: time , someone said earlier that this is not really an issue : -) … but it is #ELTchat
9:47 pm cecilialcoelho: @sandymillin @lukemeddings Ok… reading blogs and twitter sound like a good combo #eltchat
9:47 pm DaveDodgson: @gret I was the opposite! Started my blog, lurked on Twitter and then started tweeting 🙂 #ELTchat
9:47 pm cecilialcoelho: @esolcourses Same here Sue! #ELTChat
9:48 pm cecilialcoelho: RT @Marisa_C: RT @Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat @Marisa_C
9:48 pm vbenevolofranca: RT @gret: @LukeMeddings That’s how I got engaged too. Lurking, slowly getting involved, commenting and few months later I was writing my blog #ELTChat
9:48 pm steve__kirk: @ChrisCattaneo I can’t help thinking time is sth we ‘make’ not ‘have’. If there’s a spark of motiv in online PD, ppl will make time #eltchat
9:48 pm bcnpaul1: @esolcourses definitely agree that twitter sparks blogposts #eltchat
9:48 pm europeaantje: @DaveDodgson reaction I had was people were daunted by it & didn´t want to get involved so far #ELTchat
9:48 pm SueannaN: @cecilialcoelho hope you’re having a great time with Berni #eltCHAT
9:48 pm europeaantje: @DaveDodgson “it” being the PLN #ELTchat
9:48 pm Marisa_C: RT @steve__kirk: @ChrisCattaneo I can’t help thinking time is sth we ‘make’ not ‘have’. If there’s a spark , ppl will make time #eltchat
9:48 pm cecilialcoelho: @SueAnnan Sure am! She turned me into Beelzebub tonight! 😉 #eltCHAT
9:49 pm JoshSRound: @bcnpaul1 Yep, becoming an Effective twitter PLN user is the goal. The journey getting there is tricky but fun, tho! #eltchat
9:49 pm vickyloras: RT @steve__kirk: @ChrisCattaneo I can’t help thinking time is sth we ‘make’ not ‘have’. If there’s a spark of motiv in online PD, ppl will make time #eltchat
9:49 pm SueannaN: @cecilialcoelho Of course, you were mumming, weren’t you #eltCHAT
9:49 pm esolcourses: @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho went off and started writing one after today’s #ELTChat earlier on, in fact… (to be continued 😉
9:49 pm DaveDodgson: @europeaantje I’ve been advertising your #rscon11 session at my school – perhaps you can do better than me to get them started! #ELTchat
9:49 pm Marisa_C: @JoshSRound #eltchat quite exciting isn’t it ? @ErenNesrin 🙂
9:50 pm gret: @DaveDodgson I’d been meaning to start blogging for many years… it was my PLN that inspired me to take that huge step. #ELTChat
9:50 pm bcnpaul1: I think busy teachers cd be less busy if they were on twitter w/so many links to resources #eltchat
9:50 pm cecilialcoelho: @SueAnnan Of course…. brilliant performances all around 😉 @rliberni was a perfect audience! #eltCHAT
9:50 pm gret: RT @bcnpaul1: I think busy teachers cd be less busy if they were on twitter w/so many links to resources #eltchat –> agreed!
9:50 pm cybraryman1: RT @gret: @DaveDodgson Id been meaning to start blogging for many years… it was my PLN that inspired me to take that huge step. #Eltchat
9:50 pm DaveDodgson: @gret And a good thing you did! #ELTchat
9:51 pm SueannaN: RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses definitely agree that twitter sparks blogposts #eltchat
9:51 pm europeaantje: @DaveDodgson inshallah #rscon11 #ELTchat
9:51 pm bcnpaul1: @esolcourses look forward to reading it – i’m trying too but slow getting into the new year 🙂 #eltchat
10:00 pm cybraryman1: Most ppl start as lurkers as I did Keep sharing great resurces #Eltchat
10:00 pm europeaantje: @Marisa_C share bookmarks with colleagues. my favouritwe for this google bookmarks on the desktop #ELTchat
10:00 pm carlaraguseo: I opened a Wiki to build a collection of lessons after a Computer lab workshop to show their contributions mattered #ELTchat
10:00 pm Marisa_C: RT @ErenNesrin: @Marisa_C sharing or trying out an idea in trainings, and then telling them the source:) #eltchat > Yes!
10:00 pm bcnpaul1: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11 this weekend! #ELTchat
10:00 pm steve__kirk: RT @SueAnnan: @ErenNesrin Personal Learning Network or Prfessional L N – PEOPLE learning ntwk! #eltchat
10:00 pm JoshSRound: Thanks all for great #eltchat. Look forward to transcript & podcast. next step is to run school inset and use some of your splendid ideas 🙂
10:00 pm chucksandy: RT @cybraryman1: Most ppl start as lurkers as I did Keep sharing great resurces #Eltchat
10:00 pm LukeMeddings: Easy to assume people know more than they do-Twit-blogland a bit of a hothouse,think I’ll give it more time in my training in 2011 #eltchat
10:01 pm ErenNesrin: @DaveDodgson @Marisa_C #ELTchat I do the same! Emailing works well:)
10:01 pm SueannaN: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11 this weekend! #ELTchat
10:01 pm sandymillin: @evab2001 #eltchat – silent for a year is OK – when we speak a language as kids, we can be silent for 2 and it doesn’t matter 😉
10:01 pm chriscattaneo: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11 this weekend! #ELTchat
10:01 pm vickyloras: RT @JoshSRound: Thanks all for great #eltchat. Look forward to transcript & podcast. next step is to run school inset and use some of your splendid ideas 🙂
10:01 pm chucksandy: RT @sandymillin: @evab2001 #eltchat – silent for a year is OK – when we speak a language as kids, we can be silent for 2 and it doesn’t matter 😉
10:01 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11this weekend! #ELTchat
10:01 pm Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings Have been trying to integrate it more and more in y training courses too Luke – as time goes by – #eltchat
10:01 pm sandymillin: RT @LukeMeddings: Easy to assume people know more than they do- #eltchat Most ppl at my school heard of Twitter 4 1st time when I joined!
10:02 pm evab2001: @sandymillin u r 2 kind, LOL #eltchat
10:02 pm gret: RT @Marisa_C: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11this weekend! #ELTchat
10:02 pm Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings #eltchat You need early start on training courses so it become ordinary not extraordinary #ELTchat
10:02 pm SueannaN: Don’t you all hate when it’s time to stop? Fantastic #ELTchat as always. Many thanks to the moderators who did a fine job
10:02 pm europeaantje: RT @SueannaN: Don’t you all hate when it’s time to stop? Fantastic #ELTchat as always. Many thanks to the moderators who did a fine job
10:03 pm sandymillin: RT @SueannaN: Don’t you all hate when it’s time to stop? Fantastic #ELTchat as always. Many thanks to the moderators who did a fine job
10:03 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings Have been trying to integrate it more and more in y training courses too Luke – as time goes by – #eltchat me 2
10:03 pm chriscattaneo: agree ?@Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings #eltchat You need early start on training courses so it become ordinary not extraordinary #ELTchat?
10:03 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings #eltchat You need early start on training courses so it become ordinary not extraordinary #ELTchat
10:03 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C:@LukeMeddings trying integrate it more and more in training courses too Luke – as time goes by – #eltchat slowly chipping away
10:03 pm cecilialcoelho: Thank you all for another ideas-filled #ELTChat! Always a great moment of the day.
10:03 pm vickyloras: I’m the broken record of the school – I keep telling them about online PD until they get tired of me! ha ha! #ELTChat
10:03 pm gret: @DaveDodgson Speaking of meaningful PD! Can’t miss #rscon11 on Sat, Jan 8th! http://bit.ly/bIH6Dp#ELTChat
10:04 pm Marisa_C: Thank you all for a great conversation and special thanks to @bcnpaul1 and @vickyloras for helping this lone moderator tonight ! #ELTchat

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