Ways to develop learner autonomy – tips for learning outside class time. #ELTchat transcript 26/01/11
This is the transcript of the second #ELTchat on 26/01/2011 at 21:00 p.m. GTM
| 8:57 pm | Marisa_C: | @davedodgson 26-01-11 ELTchat review – The role and function of humour in the EFL class: f… #elt #eltchat> Super!!!! |
| 8:58 pm | Marisa_C: | Are you ready for #ELTchat???????? |
| 8:58 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C READY #ELTchat |
| 8:59 pm | SueannaN: | Me too. Ready.#ELTchat |
| 8:59 pm | europeaantje: | #eltchat get set… |
| 8:59 pm | mmgrinberg: | Hi everybody! So, let’s talk about learner autonomy #eltchat |
| 8:59 pm | Fuertesun: | @SueAnnan evening #ELTchat |
| 8:59 pm | Fuertesun: | @europeaantje evening #eltchat |
| 8:59 pm | vickyloras: | @Marisa_C Yahoooo!!! Whoop whoop!!! Ready #ELTChat |
| 8:59 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready for #ELTchat???????? > Yeeeeeeeeees!!! #ELTchat |
| 8:59 pm | cerirhiannon: | #eltchat .. ready … |
| 8:59 pm | Marisa_C: | @DaveDodgson It’s a great summary, David, thanks a million 🙂 #ELTchat and the Monty Python clip is a real hoot! |
| 8:59 pm | europeaantje: | @Fuertesun buenas #eltchat |
| 8:59 pm | sandymillin: | For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. Developing learner autonomy |
| 9:00 pm | Marisa_C: | Only FOUR ready for #ELTchat??? |
| 9:00 pm | bcnpaul1: | good evening #eltchat |
| 9:00 pm | Fuertesun: | For the next hour I’ll be tweeting about learner autonomy and ways to help devp it #eltchat |
| 9:00 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Fuertesun: For the next hour I’ll be tweeting about learner autonomy and ways to help devp it #eltchat |
| 9:00 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Five! #ELTchat |
| 9:00 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Fuertesun: For the next hour I’ll be tweeting about learner autonomy and ways to help devp it #eltchat > me too |
| 9:00 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Marisa_C: Only FOUR ready for #ELTchat??? | counting 10 atleast |
| 9:00 pm | DaveDodgson: | @Marisa_C Glad you liked it. Afraid I can’t stay for another #ELTchat – have a good one! |
| 9:00 pm | Fuertesun: | @bcnpaul1 evening #eltchat |
| 9:00 pm | Marisa_C: | Hi everyone on #ELTchat – Let’s talk Learner Autonomy |
| 9:00 pm | SueannaN: | @Fuertesun Hi there #ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm | mmgrinberg: | #eltchat #eltchat Ready #eltchat #eltchat Hello Hello Hello !!! |
| 9:01 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C Do we mean autonomy in and out of class? #ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm | bcnpaul1: | @Fuertesun good evening. How’s things? #eltchat |
| 9:01 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Marisa_C 🙂 ready for #ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm | JoshSRound: | Evening all! #ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm | Fuertesun: | @bcnpaul1 good thx Paul and u? #eltchat |
| 9:01 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat I show learners ideas from my own language learning -so they know what can work: writing coloured words on paper & putting on walls |
| 9:01 pm | Marisa_C: | For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #EFL #esl #edchat |
| 9:01 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I show learners ideas from my own language learning -so they know what can work: writing coloured words on paper & putting on walls |
| 9:02 pm | bcnpaul1: | @Fuertesun I’m good – tired but good #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready for #ELTchat???????? < Ready! But on mobile so slow to tweet I think! |
| 9:02 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @sandymillin: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. Developing learner autonomy |
| 9:02 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #EFL #esl #edchat |
| 9:02 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I show learners ideas from my own language learning -so they know what can work: writing coloured words on paper & putting on walls |
| 9:02 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #EFL #esl #edchat |
| 9:02 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: Hi everyone on #ELTchat – Let’s talk Learner Autonomy |
| 9:02 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat evening, team |
| 9:02 pm | sandymillin: | @Fuertesun Bit of both I think – giving them the skills to study by themselves (I use same ideas now without classes) #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | Marisa_C: | @ShellTerrel and I will be your moderators this evening so please ask for help if you are new to #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm | harrisonmike: | #ELTchat I highly recommend that you give mLearning tech and tools (not always smartphones) for learner autonomy #mobseeta |
| 9:03 pm | SueannaN: | @fionamau Hi Fiona #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrel and I will be your moderators this evening so please ask for help if you are new to #ELTchat |
| 9:03 pm | cioccas: | Can’t wait to read transcript from previous #ELTchat on humour in ELT! |
| 9:03 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrel and I will be your moderators this evening so please ask for help if you are new to #ELTchat |
| 9:03 pm | harrisonmike: | #ELTchat .. and that’s just from talking about mobile for 4 days on the #seeta fora #mobseeta |
| 9:03 pm | vickyloras: | I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat |
| 9:03 pm | harrisonmike: | RT @vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | bcnpaul1: | @harrisonmike LOL #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | @mmgrinberg Shows his learners by being a good role model #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | SueannaN: | @harrisonmike funny #ELTchat #seeta #mobseeta |
| 9:04 pm | cioccas: | For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #baw2011 #mobseeta #evople |
| 9:04 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Do we mean autonomy in and out of class? #ELTchat > I guess autonomy in class should hopefully extend outside too? |
| 9:04 pm | sandymillin: | @vickyloras #ELTChat We also discuss films in class – most of my SS are cinema-goers |
| 9:04 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @SueAnnan yes, it’s very complicated with homeworks….hmmm…http://tiny.cc/0khdd …some of my ideas #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | SueannaN: | @vladkaslniecko thanks Vladka #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | janetbianchini: | Hi there #ELTchat Good evening all! I’m ready for the chat |
| 9:05 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat |
| 9:05 pm | bcnpaul1: | but activities that they have chosen to do so the autonomy begins in the c’room making ’em more motivated out of it #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | @cerirhiannon great minds….:-) #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat > agree |
| 9:05 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @harrisonmike #ELTchat I highly recommend that you give mLearning tech and tools (not always smartphones) for learner autonomy #mobseeta |
| 9:05 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @bcnpaul1: but activities chosen to do so the autonomy begins in the c’room making ’em more motivated out of it #eltchat > choice is key |
| 9:06 pm | mmgrinberg: | @Marisa_C Sorry for sounding a little bit awkward #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat > agree |
| 9:06 pm | harrisonmike: | #ELtchat For my elementary sts I put them on to #BBC World News for Children (now Schools)http://bbc.in/aWCvo0 #podcast #listening |
| 9:06 pm | Marisa_C: | For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | Fuertesun: | @cerirhiannon YES but spse YLs less autonomous outside class? #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat I use Edmodo with students. Any good links from here posted on there to give them ideas. They can post links they find too |
| 9:06 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | vickyloras: | @sandymillin Yes,movies are a great idea-they pay attention to expressions and come and use them then,it’s a fun way to learn #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | sarah_SKB: | @bcnpaul1 what sort of activities? what guidance do you give? #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I use Edmodo with students. Any good links from here posted on there to give them ideas. They can post links they find too |
| 9:07 pm | fionamau: | RT @Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | lydbury: | Helping the learner to become independent and become his/her own mentor is a great goal #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | sandymillin: | @cerirhiannon Same problem with Edmodo – about half of my SS use it #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | vickyloras: | RT @harrisonmike #ELtchat 4my elem sts I put them on to #BBC World News for Children (now Schools) http://bbc.in/aWCvo0 #podcast #listening |
| 9:07 pm | bcnpaul1: | I’ve started showing them how to do things on the blog which they do at home (toondoo, embedding youtube, posterous for docs etc. ) #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | Fuertesun: | @cerirhiannon I use it with my one-to-ones they’re pretty good #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | lydbury: | @Marisa_C yes, with you there 100% #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | DinaDobrou: | @vickyloras @sandymillin And filsms with English subs (maybe of films they want to see again and are familiar. #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @bcnpaul1: I’ve started showing them how to do things on the blog which they do at home (toondoo, embedding youtube, posterous for docs etc. ) #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | JoshSRound: | Is it easier to promote autonomy with YLs?- adults more set in their learning ways? #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | Marisa_C: | Allowing choice and making Ss part of the decision making abt class activities a great beginning for becoming more autonomous #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | fionamau: | RT @Fuertesun: @cerirhiannon YES but spse YLs less autonomous outside class? #ELTchat >> they need a bigger carrot but it’s poss w teens |
| 9:08 pm | europeaantje: | @SueAnnan keep going at it Sue. keep thinking of interesting stuff to put up. ask for collaboration #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | ShellTerrell: | @SueAnnan I’ve had a lot of enthusiasm with my adult learners and their willingness to do the homework in the wiki! #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | harrisonmike: | I like @vladkaslniecko‘s suggestion – do what you do, but in English. Can’t remember the link to where she blogged the tip though. #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | lydbury: | @DinaDobrou @vickyloras @sandymillin Or films they have watched in their own language and watch again in English #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | sandymillin: | @cerirhiannon #eltchat Works with DVDs too – they can normally chose to watch in English w/ or w/out subtitles |
| 9:08 pm | Fuertesun: | @vickyloras yes it’s the goal but ss don’t really understand that? #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | bcnpaul1: | gonna show them voicethread this week hoping they want to do it at home… thanks for that idea guido #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | mattledding: | Asynch collaboration ie: shared google doc, gives a certain responsibility and opens discussions between ss. Also leaves record. #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great question! RT @JoshSRound: Is it easier to promote autonomy with YLs?- adults more set in their learning ways? #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | vladkaslniecko: | I have recently used vocaroo. com with my studetns…so that they can practice speaking and listening at home #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | mmgrinberg: | Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: Allowing choice and making Ss part of the decision making abt class activities a great beginning for becoming more autonomous #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon #eltchat Works with DVDs too – they can normally chose to watch in English w/ or w/out subtitles >v true |
| 9:08 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell Reminds me of: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | sandymillin: | @JoshSRound I would have said easier with adults – more aware of how to learn and how to access tools #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | ColinTGraham: | How do you handle students who don’t want to be autonomous? I’ve experienced this with some adults, surprisingly… #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | @Fuertesun In some cultures Ss expect to be dependent on the T, so it will take a longer time to wean them out of this mindset #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 will have slideshow ready tonite guiding sts thru voicethread #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @ShellTerrell One of the most important goals of my role as teacher is to provide students w tools 2 b able 2 learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | joannaprieto: | RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | mattledding: | RT @ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | lee74: | RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | fionamau: | @cerirhiannon #eltchat I create class blogs and yahoogroups. Yahoogroups are used for uploading reading material and listening material |
| 9:09 pm | bcnpaul1: | @JoshSRound easier with yls – I wouldn’t say there ws a huge amount of difference. motivated sts will become autonomous regardless #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ColinTGraham: How do you handle students who don’t want to be autonomous? I’ve experienced this with some adults, surprisingly… #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | @ColinTGraham SLowly and systematically but very persistently 🙂 #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | lydbury: | RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. Einstein” <Yeah! #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | dofskid: | Teacher approach is key to success but they have to learn how to encourage autonomy. #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | marekandrews: | @ShellTerrell and learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | ErenNesrin: | I start by having Ss set objectives & then have them evaluate their progress.if not achieved Ss think abt diff strategies 2 employ #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @marekandrews: learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje fantastic!! 🙂 #eltchat pls send me link when it’s ready (no pressure!!) |
| 9:10 pm | lydbury: | RT @marekandrews: @ShellTerrell and learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses <yes #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | Marisa_C: | @marekandrews Exactly – I think we should take it as a given that L-training for autonomy is a main goal for the process focused T #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | lydbury: | @ErenNesrin Does that help autonomy? #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | mmgrinberg: | I put some extra listening passages on Moodle and some of my ss do some dictogloss-like activities at home #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat also, as a dogmeist, ie #dogme bod, I usually find that sts become quite autonomous as a knock-on effect |
| 9:11 pm | dofskid: | I have made some Autonomous learning study guides to use which include awareness building exercises. #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | ShellTerrell: | On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | vickyloras: | RT @marekandrews: @ShellTerrell and learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @marekandrews that’s why i try to use various MI activities in classroom …so that they learn what suits them most #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @marekandrews that’s why i try to use various MI activities in classroom …so that they learn what suits them most #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | bcnpaul1: | how does autonomy begin in the c’room? 1.give them choice. what else? #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | mmgrinberg: | In general, Moodle is extremely useful and still it’s kind of ‘semi-autonomous’ learning, isn’t it? #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | dofskid: | + support in a self access centre #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | @fionamau suggests that certain approaches – e,g. dogme – have a built in autonomy capsule!!! 🙂 #eltchat #dogme |
| 9:12 pm | Fuertesun: | Is it easier to tch YLs to be autonomous? Not necessarily adlts have more more cognitive maturity #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat Does having a coursebook limit opportunities for autonomy? |
| 9:12 pm | ColinTGraham: | Student-generated content can help enormously with motivation, as can peer pressure/role modelling of autonomy #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | harrisonmike: | @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | vickyloras: | I liked what @sandymillin said earlier,abt showing them how we learn languages – modelling learning #ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | vladkaslniecko: | 2. show them ways of learning #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @ErenNesrin: I start by having Ss set objectives & then have them evaluate their progress.if not achieved Ss think abt diff strategies 2 employ #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | europeaantje: | just chucking this into #eltchat: the 40 odd websites “to learn Eng o/t web” on our class moodle pages |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @dofskid: Teacher approach is key to success but they have to learn how to encourage autonomy. #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat also, as a dogmeist, ie #dogme bod, I usually find that sts become quite autonomous as a knock-on effect >hopefully! |
| 9:12 pm | lydbury: | @vladkaslniecko @marekandrews ?MI? #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @fionamau: @cerirhiannon #eltchat I create class blogs and yahoogroups. Yahoogroups are used for uploading reading material and listening material |
| 9:13 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ColinTGraham Me too. They expect everything to be done in class. They usually react like this when they don’t have free time. #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @ColinTGraham: How do you handle students who don’t want to be autonomous? I’ve experienced this with some adults, surprisingly… #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | sandymillin: | @vickyloras Thanks 🙂 #ELTChat Other modelling I do includes recording things in my A2 level Czech, and challenging them to do better |
| 9:13 pm | Fuertesun: | @sandymillin no give em choice start where they want do hmwrk they want ? #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 tonight! (need deadlines 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | mmgrinberg: | @bcnpaul1 Give them tools like spidergrams, guessing from context, train dictionary use #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ColinTGraham: Student-generated content can help enormously with motivation, as can peer pressure/role modelling of autonomy #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | marekandrews: | @Marisa_C the process of learning to learn shd be fully integrated into language learning so they are 1+the same thing #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat > defo (& remember them) |
| 9:13 pm | Shaunwilden: | Phew got to my hotel in San diego in time to take part in #eltchat hi all |
| 9:13 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat > I started with a shoebox ended with 6 wikis 😀 |
| 9:13 pm | Fuertesun: | @cioccas yes adlts often reluctant #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | @mmgrinberg Can you describe “a self-access box” I’m not sure I know what that is #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau suggests that certain approaches – e,g. dogme – have a built in autonomy capsule!!! 🙂 #eltchat #dogme |
| 9:13 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | ColinTGraham: | @lydbury MI = Multiple Intelligences, I suspect #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @mattledding: Asynch collaboration ie: shared google doc, gives a certain responsibility and opens discussions between ss. Also leaves record. #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | buddyxo: | RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | ISILBOY: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials2show them how 2do the hw&use the tools #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | lydbury: | We only have adult students for one or two weeks intensive. So auytonomy for continued elarning is essential. #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @marekandrews: @Marisa_C the process of learning to learn shd be fully integrated into language learning so they are 1+the same thing #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | dofskid: | All classes can use a self access centre we have on campus #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C Self-access box?? #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | mmgrinberg: | I think that a lot of activities from the Minimax book (ss generated tests) lead to autonomy #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @sandymillin no..if you show them that the content can be enriched using the authentic material…connection to real life #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | alezavrill: | When sts feel forced 2 use technology ’cause teachers tend 2 constantly evaluate everything they do online, it becomes meaningless #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | cioccas: | @sandymillin @ColinTGraham ive also had adults reluctant to be autonomous, expecting teacher to spoon feed! #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | lydbury: | Ah – thanks #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | Marisa_C: | @lydbury That is the mark of a good course for me – if no autonomy built in not good enough #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | europeaantje: | RT @mmgrinberg: Moodle is extremely useful and still it’s kind of ‘semi-autonomous’ learning, isn’t it? #eltchat | needs good content |
| 9:14 pm | sandymillin: | @Fuertesun Good idea. 1 more prob w/ CB though is shared classes – have another teach who I need to get on side (doesn’t stop me!) #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | ColinTGraham: | @DinaDobrou It’s a cultural thing too, as mentioned earlier, where Teacher/Student relationship is pre-defined (Japan in my case) #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @mmgrinberg: Give them tools like spidergrams, guessing from context, train dictionary use #eltchat > yes! tools to become autonomous |
| 9:15 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! Also important goal! RT @lydbury: Helping the learner to become independent and become his/her own mentor is a great goal #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | lydbury: | @cioccas @sandymillin @ColinTGraham Surprised to hear that #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | janetbianchini: | Self-evaluation tutorials with tutor / mentor have worked very well in the past – helps ss to focus on their own particular needs #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1: how does autonomy begin in the c’room? what else? #eltchat Use st-generated materials, then they’re motivated to look/create |
| 9:15 pm | mmgrinberg: | @ShellTerrell A box with extra materials that the ss can borrow / take. Am I right? Haven’t tried it yet #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou Well, you never saw that! May some old files still around from Self Access but now all in wiki #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: @lydbury That is the mark of a good course for me – if no autonomy built in not good enough #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | vickyloras: | @Shaunwilden Hi Shaun! #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | ColinTGraham: | @lydbury It may also be an issue of EFL vs ESOL where requirements and expections can be very different at times #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | lydbury: | @mmgrinberg @ShellTerrell Do the materials come back? 🙁 #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | janetbianchini: | Oops – forgot to add #ELTchat to my tweets – will copy and paste them again if I can find them! |
| 9:16 pm | peteschneider: | RT @ShellTerrell: ….my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | lydbury: | @ColinTGraham @lydbury Very true #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | cerirhiannon: | lost wifi but back again – doing a bit of lurking to catch up 🙁 #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | harrisonmike: | Alright, must sleep long one tomorrow (1st class starts 9.30am, last finishes at 8.30pm). Have a fun #eltchat all =) |
| 9:16 pm | marekandrews: | Developing learner autonomy, lecture by Leni Dam who’s done gr8 work for learner autonomyhttp://tinyurl.com/6kptuek #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | mmgrinberg: | @lydbury @shellterrell They can be just photocopies. Anyway, Moodle is better if everybody is tech-savvy #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | fionamau: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Does having a coursebk limit opportunities 4 autonomy?>> no, only T-fronted,coursebk based, unadventurous teaching |
| 9:17 pm | Fuertesun: | @harrisonmike night #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: A box with extra materials that the ss can borrow / take. #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell A box with extra materials – Ss can borrow/ take > Good for early finishers too #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | dofskid: | in the classroom students can share ideas on what and how they study and also discuss motivation and study styles #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | cioccas: | @mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat < Self-access box in our LMS &/or class blog |
| 9:17 pm | bcnpaul1: | @fionamau definitely- if sts r co-creating they r motivated & therefore more autonomous. also more aware of strengths & limitations #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | lydbury: | @janetbianchini Use tweetchat.com/room/eltchat – it does it for you #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @peteschneider: RT @ShellTerrell: .my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | annabooklover: | RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @dofskid: in the classroom students can share ideas on what and how they study and also discuss motivation and study styles #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | sarah_SKB: | Are your wikis etc attached to the school or open to everyone? My school has policies on teaching ‘outside’ students #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | janetbianchini: | Encourage ss 2 take out books/DVDs from school library + they write short feedback comments in a special folder for other ss 2 read #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @lydbury: Helping the learner to become independent and become his/her own mentor is a great goal #eltchat – agreed this is an imp point |
| 9:17 pm | buddyxo: | RT @bcnpaul1: I’ve started showing them how to do things on the blog which they do at home (toondoo, embedding youtube, posterous for docs etc. ) #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | ErenNesrin: | Raising Ss awareness on strategy training and having Ss reflect on their learning(awareness on metacognition)+ providing options #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @peteschneider: RT @ShellTerrell: .my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | vickyloras: | @harrisonmike Night,Mike!We have the exact same schedule tomorrow lol #ELTChat |
| 9:17 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ColinTGraham True. Hadn’t thought of that. #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ErenNesrin: Raising Ss awareness on strategy training and having Ss reflect on their learning(awareness on metacognition)+ providing options #ELTchat |
| 9:18 pm | fionamau: | RT @harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests NEEDS & MATERIALS as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat #dogme |
| 9:18 pm | harrisonmike: | @fionamau Agreed. #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: RT @harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests NEEDS & MATERIALS as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat #dogme |
| 9:18 pm | ColinTGraham: | Where there is a single L1, I feel the ELT has to be learning it… and Ss need to be aware teacher is doing this… #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | Brian_ThomasTCI: | Free @TeachTCI webinar tonight on Supporting Strugling Readers! 6:30EST Sign up: #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | cioccas: | RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | europeaantje: | *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat |
| 9:18 pm | lydbury: | @sandymillin @ShellTerrell Yes indeed. #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | Fuertesun: | @europeaantje yes get em out of tch knows all habit #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | One of my favorite lessons by @sabridv Where she let her student just take over the teaching for the day! #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | vickyloras: | I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | sandymillin: | RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | mmgrinberg: | Always praise the ss when you learn that somebody has used the language out of class. Sorry for a truism #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | I’m not a walking dictionary is a good one #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | sandymillin: | RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | Marisa_C: | If you haven’t used Self-access boxes with extras try it for half an hour each week – Ss choose what they want to do #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | @vickyloras What a great idea to teach students! Multitasking too! #Eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | dofskid: | a great resource for language studies is Strategies for success by H D Brown #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Fuertesun: I’m not a walking dictionary is a good one #eltchat < or a computer 🙂 (though seem to have that reputation!) |
| 9:19 pm | mattledding: | RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @harrisonmike Night Mike! 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @Marisa_C: If you haven’t used Self-access boxes with extras try it for half an hour each week – Ss choose what they want to do #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | europeaantje: | *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ” don´t ask me thinks you can look uo for yourself” & provide sources #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | lydbury: | @Fuertesun 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | kyteacher: | RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: Free @TeachTCI webinar tonight on Supporting Strugling Readers! 6:30EST Sign up: #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | mmgrinberg: | If you are using coursebook, show them the sections with the transcript, the grammar and voc banks from the very beginning #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | SueannaN: | My students use the language out of class by default because they are in immersion classes #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 idea! RT @Marisa_C: If u haven’t used Self-access boxes w extras try it for half an hr each wk – Ss choose what they want to do #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | fredgarnett: | @Marisa_C Marisa, thanks for linking to Beatles YouTube blog Now a dedicated post for #eltchatcalled Beatles BELTers; |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @mmgrinberg: If you are using coursebook, show them the sections with the transcript, the grammar and voc banks from the very beginning #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | vickyloras: | That way some of them who think learning outside class will take up time become more motivated,still learn on their own intitative #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C I saw atch with a self access table once fantastic #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ” don´t ask me thinks you can look uo for yourself” & provide sources #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | sandymillin: | @fionamau Trying to change this 🙂 have to use coursebook but constantly looking for ways to adapt it 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | bcnpaul1: | getting sts to plan the class for next week as homework is a nice one (as long as they do it) #eltchatif they don’t, make ’em suffer :)!! |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @Rob_Learner: It’s good to give kids the basics, but lifelong learning is the ideal, not just pursuit of grades. #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @bcnpaul1: getting sts to plan the class for next week as homework is a nice one (as long as they do it) #eltchat if they don’t, make ’em suffer :)!! |
| 9:20 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @vickyloras: I encourage adults that autonomous learning be done while doing sth else.listning to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1 @mmgrinberg: Give tools like spidergrams, guessing frm context, train dictionary use #eltchat > yes! tools to become autonomous |
| 9:20 pm | ColinTGraham: | Re: content – with my adult Ss, they often wanted to discuss news – they could bring in articles in L1 but had to explain in Eng #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @vickyloras: I encourage adults that autonomous learning be done while doing sth else.listning to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat |
| 9:21 pm | marekandrews: | in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | ErenNesrin: | More importantly a teacher has to believe in the learner autonomy and strategy training, if not,not much can be conveyed to the Ss #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @ColinTGraham: Re: content – with my adult Ss, they often wanted to discuss news – they could bring in articles in L1 but had to explain in Eng #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @ErenNesrin: More importantly a teacher has to believe in the learner autonomy and strategy training, if not,not much can be conveyed to the Ss #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | andrefn18: | RT @marekandrews: Developing learner autonomy, lecture by Leni Dam who’s done gr8 work for learner autonomy http://tinyurl.com/6kptuek #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | sandymillin: | RT @marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | cioccas: | @europeaantje < and ask them to find out answer & share in next lesson #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | europeaantje: | *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | mmgrinberg: | If an ESP i2i student doesn’t do homework, ‘turn off’ for 20 mins so that she could do smth on her own #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | @ErenNesrin Great point! I completely agree! Many teachers still in the “I’m in control” mode #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | bcnpaul1: | Agree> RT @marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ColinTGraham: Re: content – my adults bring in articles in L1 had to explain in Eng #eltchat > nice I do this too |
| 9:21 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @bcnpaul1: getting sts plan the class for next week as h/w is nice (as long as they do it) #eltchatif they don’t, make ’em suffer 🙂 |
| 9:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 to explore! RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @marekandrews in class never do anything that u can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat —brilliant! |
| 9:22 pm | vickyloras: | @ShellTerrell Thanks Shell!One of them even bought audiobooks to listen to while commuting and the improvement showed very soon #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | fionamau: | RT @cerirhiannon: lost wifi but back again – doing a bit of lurking to catch up 🙁 #eltchat >> mine’s comin & goin too. Hard 2 catch up! |
| 9:22 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @marekandrews: Developing learner autonomy, lecture by Leni Dam who’s done gr8 work for learner autonomy http://tinyurl.com/6kptuek #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @marekandrews in class never do anything that u can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat —brilliant! |
| 9:22 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat >excellent |
| 9:22 pm | tarabenwell: | I was very excited to see that the English learners on MyEC had created their own speaking group last week. #ELTChat 132 members already |
| 9:22 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C woops a teacher #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | ColinTGraham: | Some students used machine translations, and spent a lot of time preparing, after a few weeks, most switched to English stories! #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | ShellTerrell: | Create an atmosphere of autonomy in the beginning-have Ss choose topics they want 2 study or where they want to begin in the bk #Eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 to explore! RT @europeaantje: how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat> YES |
| 9:23 pm | tarabenwell: | They are addressing problems on their own, such as how to improve sound quality. #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | fredgarnett: | @Marisa_C Thanks, I am happy to edit and add activities to songs, etc if people comment on the blog #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | dofskid: | http://www.ebook3000.com/Strategies-for-Success–A-Practical-Guide-to-Learning-English_22666.html #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | Fuertesun: | @ShellTerrell YES good but even adults can be so wishy washy #Eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | fionamau: | RT @mmgrinberg: A box with extra materials that the ss can borrow / take. #eltchat >> even better if sts compiled/collected the materials |
| 9:23 pm | andrefn18: | RT @marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | marekandrews: | @ShellTerrell gr8 to get ss to explore what they can do with their mobile phones in+outside class to learn English #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell YES good but even adults can be so wishy washy #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | Fuertesun: | @ShellTerrell Ia ot of shoulder shrugging here in Spain #Eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | EnglishOnlineMB: | peer study groups-gr8 idea! @tarabenwell #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell Create atmosphere of autonomy in beginning-have Ss choose topics they want 2 study or where they want2begin in bk #Eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | Chrissy_Kelly: | RT @ShellTerrell: One of my favorite lessons by @sabridv Where she let her student just take over the teaching for the day! #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | mmgrinberg: | Learner autonomy has been an important topic with the French authors – and they’ve got quite a few self-access centers #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | europeaantje: | *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: recently have been recording sts: “listen to it at home & tell me what you think” #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1: if sts r co-creating they r motivated & therefore more autonomous. also more aware of strengths & limitations #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | tarabenwell: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 to explore! RT @europeaantje: how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat> YES |
| 9:24 pm | hedram: | RT @ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | cerirhiannon: | encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | cioccas: | For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | DinaDobrou: | Tell them to watch English speaking cartoons, series, shows online: http://wwitv.com/ #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | vladkaslniecko: | i show them they can do some things using English instead of their lang…like reading horoscopes if that’s what they usually do.. #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | ColinTGraham: | Many students seem to feel frustrated by the gap between their listening & reading, particularly news. Focusing ?ns can help #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | sandymillin: | @EnglishOnlineMB Used to do peer study at uni – forgot about that. Think I learnt most of my Spanish in those groups! #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat > bringing stuff in is great |
| 9:25 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat > encouraging diaries, journals, blogs great |
| 9:25 pm | Marisa_C: | Great point – lost the tweet now – how the T has to show they are an autonomous learner too – being a good role model #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Fuertesun In my experience Ss at the beginning need encouragemt. They arent used to their Tchrs asking 4 their input #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | Fuertesun: | How many times have you heard it’s up to you your the tecaher! #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | vickyloras: | RT @europeaantje *thinking* how i promote L autonomy:recently been recording sts: “listen to it at home & tell me what you think” #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | sandymillin: | @europeaantje Recorded students for first time today – they were reluctant, but hoping will overcome this when they c it’s useful #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | europeaantje: | @Marisa_C @sandymillin tweet #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | Fuertesun: | @ShellTerrell YES too many authoritarians out there! #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | ISILBOY: | Good article- The use of Web 2.0 tools to promote learner autonomy #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Fuertesun: How many times have you heard it’s up to you your the tecaher! #eltchat >hven’t heard it so often but very often FELT it |
| 9:26 pm | ShellTerrell: | What are some ways you promote autonomy with reluctant adult students not used to this teaching method? #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | ColinTGraham: | By focusing ?ns, I mean structures/directed tasks which support/scaffold & encourage greater independence. Ideally Ss generate ?ns #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | Fuertesun: | @bcnpaul1 you’re agh can’t spell or think! #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | europeaantje: | @sandymillin allow for that, esp. when listening. nobody likes listening to themselves 🙂 #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Think that may have been me 😉 Often take in examples of my learning for them to see. Think they appreciate it #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Fuertesun: How many times have you heard it’s up to you your the tecaher! #eltchat >hven’t heard it so often but very often FELT it |
| 9:27 pm | vickyloras: | I recommend channels like MSNBC or Bloomberg for my bankers,they love them and watch them avidly,even on their mobiles #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | SueannaN: | thanks Duncan. This TweetChat is excellent at weeding out everything else #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | sandymillin: | @europeaantje Told them about rerecording myself 1st time I did it when 15, as didn’t believe it was my voice! #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin Thanks Sandy – great point #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | fionamau: | RT @vickyloras: I try 2 show adults that autonomous learning cn b done while doin sth else,e.g.TALKING TO SELF IN SHOWER role plays #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | janetbianchini: | I like the idea of ss writing a diary in English outside of class -optional activity but it’s worked in the past with very keen ss #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | sandymillin: | @Fuertesun If I have a pound… #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | tarabenwell: | @sandymillin @europeaantje The learners on MyEC were reluctant at first too. Some of them are singing now! They started “MyEC Idol” #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @janetbianchini: I like the idea of ss writing a diary in English outside of class -optional activity but it’s worked in the past with very keen ss #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | Fuertesun: | @ShellTerrell improve their metacog awareness cognition bout cognition? #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | ColinTGraham: | @ShellTerrell It depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | mmgrinberg: | They can keep an audio diary using their mobiles – good for ESP but also teens #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | europeaantje: | @tarabenwell RESULT! #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | ShellTerrell: | @janetbianchini Great idea Janet! #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | cerirhiannon: | ss take it in turns to email summary to group after class -encourages them to come up with suggestions for next class #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @lydbury MI – multiple intelligences 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @mmgrinberg: They can keep an audio diary using their mobiles – good for ESP but also teens #eltchat > nice idea |
| 9:28 pm | cioccas: | @europeaantje Have encouraged Ss to record themselves on mob phones for self-feedback #ELTchat |
| 9:28 pm | vickyloras: | @ShellTerrell I tell them every moment in their day can be a learning moment&refer to my own experiences with German #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | lydbury: | Must go – hugs to all. #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @vickyloras: @ShellTerrell I tell them every moment in their day can be a learning moment&refer to my own experiences with German #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | @vickyloras Me too! #Eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | marekandrews: | @sandymillin gr8 sandy,got ss yesterday to record themselves on mobiles, write up transcript+find mistakes+see how 2 say sth better #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 pt! RT @ColinTGraham: depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | Marisa_C: | Unf not many of our refugee Ss can afford PCs so we have to rely on less techy stuff #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 pt! RT @ColinTGraham: depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | europeaantje: | @cerirhiannon saw some nice egs of that on the blog. we need link! #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | bcnpaul1: | be nice to have other sts blogs that they are asked to comment on for h’wk in the hope they build relation with bloggers elsewhere #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | mmgrinberg: | Maybe… not to stay too long with one teacher. What do you think? #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | Marisa_C: | @lydbury Cheers and thanks for joining 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | sarah_SKB: | Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | @ColinTGraham You bring up a good point where we have to know our learners as well to guide them to their autonomy #Eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @mmgrinberg: Maybe… not to stay too long with one teacher. What do you think? #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 pt! RT @ColinTGraham: depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | tarabenwell: | @mmgrinberg Great idea! I’ll share that with our audio speaking group.Most of them are using Vocaroo, so this would be easy. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:29 pm | ErenNesrin: | Ss mark their own papers/presentations using a rubric,then compare grades, Ss & T explain rationale for the grades given #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchatShould they be corrected at all? |
| 9:29 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: Unf not many of our refugee Ss can afford PCs so we have to rely on less techy stuff #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | bcnpaul1: | @Fuertesun it is – it’s making me drink my wine quicker! #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 blogging always a great idea if ur Ss can do it #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell : @vickyloras Me too! #Eltchat >>Super!!! It works : ))) |
| 9:30 pm | sandymillin: | @Shaunwilden But also how do you give feedback on them? Do SS feel ‘why bother’? #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike |
| 9:30 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike |
| 9:30 pm | Marisa_C: | @sarah_SKB Like diaries but correct only with Student’s permission #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | Fuertesun: | @bcnpaul1 need a cuppa to cope with pace #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cioccas @europeaantje Have encouraged Ss to record themselves on mob phones for self-feedback #ELTchat – great idea for mlearning! |
| 9:30 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 blogging always a great idea if ur Ss can do it #eltchat > true & a lot can’t or don’t really get into it. |
| 9:30 pm | ColinTGraham: | I used to provide a list of URLs for news sites. I put a ‘review’ about level etc. for Ss who didn’t want to do their own searches #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C Unf not many of our refugee Ss can afford PCs so we have to rely on less techy stuff #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: saw some nice egs of that on the blog. we need link! #eltchat > here’s a link to post about emails |
| 9:30 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike |
| 9:31 pm | europeaantje: | @janetbianchini don´t remind me i haven´t been o/t #mobseeta pls 🙂 #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | mattledding: | @ShellTerrell with reluctant adults you have to find out why they are reluctant first. #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | tarabenwell: | @sandymillin @Shaunwilden I started using Vocaroo to give feedback too. It’s so easy and they love it. #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | Marisa_C: | But some of our refugee Students do ask for copies of CD’s to listen at home – we do that #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: saw some nice egs of that on the blog. we need link! #eltchat> here’s a link to post about emails |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @springrose12: create lots of opps 4 pair/group talk, also make sure that they use computers to create Power points to present #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: But some of our refugee Students do ask for copies of CD’s to listen at home – we do that #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | marekandrews: | great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LAhttp://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | ColinTGraham: | @ShellTerrell For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @marekandrews: great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LA http://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @europeaantje: @janetbianchini don´t remind me i haven´t been o/t #mobseeta pls 🙂 #ELTchat>me neither. feel very guilty |
| 9:32 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ColinTGraham: @ShellTerrell For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | SueannaN: | Yes we have a GR lending Library #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell Tell them: If you’re beginners & still need lessons that means they didn’t do sth right the 1sr time so shd change .#ELTchat |
| 9:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | Luv this! RT @ColinTGraham: For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | cioccas: | RT @ColinTGraham: @ShellTerrell For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | sandymillin: | @Shaunwilden #eltchat Autonomous work & HW are different, but still need to acknowledge autonomous work to motivate SS |
| 9:32 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ShellTerrell: Luv this! RT @ColinTGraham: For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ShellTerrell: Luv this! RT @ColinTGraham: For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @marekandrews: great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LA http://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | europeaantje: | ok then: my 3 preferred recording tools: Voicethread, Audiboo, Fotobabble #ELTchat – Vocaroo choppy |
| 9:32 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @sandymillin @Shaunwilden But also how do you give feedback on them? Do SS feel ‘why bother’? #eltchat – I leave correcting as optional |
| 9:32 pm | vickyloras: | RT @marekandrews great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LA http://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @europeaantje: ok then: my 3 preferred recording tools: Voicethread, Audiboo, Fotobabble #ELTchat – Vocaroo choppy |
| 9:32 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike |
| 9:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 advice! RT @mattledding: with reluctant adults you have to find out why they are reluctant first. #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell Tell them: If you’re beginners & still need lessons that means they didn’t do sth right the 1sr time so shd change .#ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @europeaantje: ok then: my 3 preferred recording tools: Voicethread, Audiboo, Fotobabble #ELTchat – Vocaroo choppy |
| 9:33 pm | fionamau: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat > encouraging diaries, journals, blogs great >> agreed |
| 9:33 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @sandymillin: @Shaunwilden #eltchat need to acknowledge autonomous work > yes, crediting/valuing work which isn’t h/wk v imp |
| 9:33 pm | shaznosel: | RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | ColinTGraham: | If Ss are to be truly autonomous, then issues of class/group needs vs individual needs also have to be considered… #Eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | sarah_SKB: | @sandymillin how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | sarah_SKB: | @sandymillin how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | @DinaDobrou Great to point out that it will help them learn better! Ties into motivation #Eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | tarabenwell: | @europeaantje I’m finding Vocaroo a bit choppy too, but so easy. Some of my learners have great sound quality on it. Wonder why? #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | Shaunwilden: | @janetbianchini @sandymillin I agree, I think the sts has to come to you with it #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | bcnpaul1: | YES > RT @ShellTerrell: @DinaDobrou Great to point out that it will help them learn better! Ties into motivation #Eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | sandymillin: | @janetbianchini @Shaunwilden Don’t necessarily mean correcting bt shud u wait for SS to say “i did this”/ask them what done / … #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | janetbianchini: | #ELTchat Getting ss to perform real-life tasks (in UK) eg market day in Oxford ss would go out to do teachers’ shopping – they loved it! |
| 9:34 pm | stiiiv: | Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | vickyloras: | #ELTChat going va-va-voom tonight – love the great ideas that keep on coming!!! |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | Marisa_C: | @shaznosel Hi Shaz good to see you join in! #ELTchat |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | @stiiiv Very important reminder! Thanks! #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @janetbianchini: #ELTchat Getting ss to perform real-life tasks (in UK) eg market day in Oxford ss would go out to do teachers’ shopping – they loved it! |
| 9:34 pm | ColinTGraham: | @sarah_SKB Praise independence or originality of approach… even if it is not always successful. #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @vickyloras: #ELTChat going va-va-voom tonight – love the great ideas that keep on coming!!! > Blazing with ideas! 🙂 |
| 9:35 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Shaunwilden @sandymillin i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great question! RT @sarah_SKB: how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | cioccas: | Tip from ex-student: Encourage Ss to make friends to English with – native sp or other learner #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @sarah_SKB: @sandymillin how 2acknowledge autonomous work? > start by talking abt it in class, set up a log – written or oral #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cioccas: Tip from ex-student: Encourage Ss to make friends to English with – native sp or other learner #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @Shaunwilden @sandymillin i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | marekandrews: | RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | Marisa_C: | We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat – sorry I DM-ed this to Shelly by mistake 😀 |
| 9:35 pm | europeaantje: | just remembered from my interpreter training: we were recorded at beginning of year, then listened a/t end: remarkable improvement #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | elilesser: | RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: Free @TeachTCI webinar tonight on Supporting Strugling Readers! 6:30EST Sign up: #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat I used to teach army regiments.Very anti-learner centred, used to hierarchies. So set ‘thinking’ for homework & it really worked |
| 9:36 pm | shaznosel: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @sarah_SKB: how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @vladkaslniecko: i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat gd point |
| 9:36 pm | sandymillin: | @europeaantje Often think about doing that with students, but never at start of course (always nr end when I remember!) #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | europeaantje: | @tarabenwell tried it again today even: same result: choppy LOL #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | VGoodyear: | RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | europeaantje: | @sandymillin true: would be a bit offputting in the first class LOL #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | janetbianchini: | @sandymillin I sometimes check they are actually doing the writing – if they want they can show me (they often do) #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | fionamau: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @mmgrinberg: They can keep an audio diary using their mobiles – good for ESP but also teens #eltchat > nice idea |
| 9:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | ColinTGraham: | @Marisa_C I used to bring graded readers. Ss could borrow as/when they wanted. Occasionally they’d do a mini-review, but not reqd #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | mattledding: | RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje thx for the RT earlier btw mr.guido #eltchat I plan to put a comment on yr voicethread as soon as I figure out how 🙂 |
| 9:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @vladkaslniecko: i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat gd point |
| 9:38 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | SueannaN: | sorrt everyone. Have to go~just come in from a late meeting #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | sandymillin: | @cerirhiannon #eltchat Nice idea to give extra credit for autonom learning habits. Problem w/ adults “we don’t have time” (multitask I knw!) |
| 9:38 pm | cioccas: | Am at a staff devt day & sharing ideas from & with teaching colleagues & ex-students #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | Fuertesun: | @SueAnnan bye #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | Marisa_C: | @ColinTGraham It really works – I don’t insist on reviews either – turns it into jomework #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | ISILBOY: | checking out sts’ works- RT @ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @sarah_SKB: how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: bring a book box to class and they choose a reader to take home #ELTchat >basic but v v useful |
| 9:38 pm | fionamau: | RT @sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat > personally I don’t correct diaries,I respond |
| 9:38 pm | europeaantje: | *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: use correction code to “correct” writing & ask sts to hand in again #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | bcnpaul1: | seems to have slowed down. has everyone gone for half-time wine top-ups or is it just me? #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 LOL you need to watch the slideshow for sts first LOL #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | ColinTGraham: | @Marisa_C And if you go to lots of conferences you can often get free samples and build up quite a library! 😉 #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | ShellTerrell: | @bcnpaul1 I think it’s you because this chat is fast & furious on my end #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @cerirhiannon we have to go basic – no PCs available to Ss #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | stiiiv: | Adrian Holliday wld argue autonomy is a universal. All students have it… It’s the institution/educ system that may restrict them #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C But they shd read it for pleasure. Not as h/w, otherwise they might feel we’re plying them with more work. #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | janetbianchini: | @SueAnnan Bye Sue #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | ShellTerrell: | @ColinTGraham @Marisa_C Hilarious! But I also get a lot of coursebks this way as well 😉 #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje I think you’re right 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | sandymillin: | @DinaDobrou Agreed #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @ColinTGraham That’s how I built mine – publishers send me free samples #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | fionamau: | RT @sarah_SKB: diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat if u correct, it’s like correcting an email frm a friend who at least tries |
| 9:40 pm | tarabenwell: | @europeaantje It has something to do with ur microphone settings. Student leader sounds perfectly clear http://tinyurl.com/4apfavh #ELTCHat |
| 9:40 pm | ColinTGraham: | A lot of the graded reader publishers also have audio versions of the books which can be useful for reinforcing listening skills #Eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | ShellTerrell: | How do you check with Ss to make sure they are being autonomous at home about their learning? #Eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | marekandrews: | ask ss how they can best use classroom 2 learn English,from furniture 2 who 2 work with,how 2 work+what 2 work on+why #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | mmgrinberg: | @Marisa_C @cerirhiannon Then maybe newspapers and bulletin boards, stuff on the walls? #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ShellTerrell: How do you check with Ss to make sure they are being autonomous at home about their learning? #Eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ColinTGraham: A lot of the graded reader publishers also have audio versions of the books #Eltchat > some also available online |
| 9:40 pm | ISILBOY: | I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook . So far, it has worked well! #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje wd be good but don’t want you to miss #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | mattledding: | Anyone tried getting students to collectively MAKE a chatbot. (ie: http://pandorabots.com) THEY teach English to a BOT. #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ShellTerrell: How do you check with Ss to make sure they are being autonomous at home about their learning? #Eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | europeaantje: | RT @marekandrews: ask ss how they can best use classroom 2 learn English,from furniture 2 who 2 work with,how 2 work+what 2 work on+why #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat I do a lesson with podcasts. Ask SS to tell me favourite subjects, I recommend podcast w/ questions, then they report back… |
| 9:41 pm | vickyloras: | @bcnpaul1 I went for a tea top-up LOL #ELTChat |
| 9:41 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @VGoodyear: I firmly believe & encourage facilitating learning & independant learning rather than ‘do as I do’ approaches #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | europeaantje: | @marekandrews including the people in it! #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | Marisa_C: | @mmgrinberg Absolutely! Stuff on walls for peripheral learning – they do feel curious abt stuff you post #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat …then they recommend podcasts to each other |
| 9:41 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon we have to go basic – no PCs available to Ss #ELTchat > me too working with v similar set up – no tech in class |
| 9:41 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat …then they recommend podcasts to each other |
| 9:41 pm | ColinTGraham: | ELT podcasts, general podcasts and videocasts are often under utilized too. Advanced Ss used to enjoy Harvard Busi School videos #Eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | janetbianchini: | You can buy lots cheap 2nd hand books in Uk (from Charity shops) to stock up a really good collection of books for a school library #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | mmgrinberg: | Diaries: in some cases the idea is even not even to read them, let alone correct #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | tarabenwell: | @europeaantje Yes. That works well. I once had writing sts create their own correction code. Then I used it and they corrected. #ELTChat |
| 9:42 pm | harrisonmike: | RT @mmgrinberg: Diaries: in some cases the idea is even not even to read them, let alone correct #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | Fuertesun: | @janetbianchini yes here too… good idea #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | BethCagnol: | Jumping in here with 20mn to go! #ELTCHAT |
| 9:42 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @mmgrinberg: Diaries: in some cases the idea is even not even to read them, let alone correct #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | stiiiv: | RT @ShellTerrell: Is there a poss. paradox in ‘checking’ on Ss ‘ exercise of autonomy?! 🙂 #Eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | sandymillin: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon we have to go basic – no PCs available to Ss #ELTchat > me too – no tech in class <me3 |
| 9:42 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @janetbianchini: You can buy lots cheap 2nd hand books in Uk to stock up a really good collection of books for a school library #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | andrefn18: | RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | fionamau: | @cerirhiannon #eltchat I don’t write correctns on diaries, bt I note them elsewhere & deal w probs in class. No names, just ‘I’ve noticed’ |
| 9:42 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin We have tech in class no problem – Ss have no tech at home #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | BethCagnol: | One university where I work in Paris has made all the language learning autonomous. #ELTCHAT We teachers are only moderators. |
| 9:43 pm | ISILBOY: | To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @BethCagnol: One university where I work in Paris has made all the language learning autonomous. #ELTCHAT We teachers are only moderators. |
| 9:43 pm | ColinTGraham: | @cerirhiannon Yes, that’s when teacher can provide an online list of the URLs for each reader, so interested Ss can find them #Eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | europeaantje: | @tarabenwell good idea. let the students tdo the work! haha #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat>Agree! it should be part of syllabus |
| 9:43 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: @cerirhiannon #eltchat don’t write correctns on diaries, note them elsewhere & deal w probs in class. No names … > yes |
| 9:43 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Or they have some tech, but e.g. no microphone. Feel left out if I try voicethread / vocaroo etc #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | ShellTerrell: | @stiiiv Yes! But we don’t have to “grade” just maybe perhaps them discussing how they studied English outside of class #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | tarabenwell: | @mmgrinberg I ask them to use the tag #corrections if they want corrections on blog post. Then I point out 1 error. They try to fix #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @BethCagnol: One university where I work in Paris has made all the language learning autonomous. #ELTCHAT We teachers are only moderators. |
| 9:43 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap |
| 9:44 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchatcompletely agree |
| 9:44 pm | cioccas: | RT @ISILBOY: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ShellTerrell: @stiiiv Yes! But we don’t have to “grade” just maybe perhaps them discussing how they studied English outside of class #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: @tarabenwell good idea. let the students tdo the work! haha #ELTChat > always get the SS to do the work 😉 |
| 9:44 pm | mmgrinberg: | I watch different kind of movies / tv shows and listen to different kinds of radio prgms on my laptop right before the lesson #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | vickyloras: | @ShellTerrell I encourage them to keep track of whet they rare doing in a pdiary,on their computer or mobile devoce #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | ErenNesrin: | @europeaantje great! +Ss write letter 2themselves,T collects envelopes,T sends them via post,Ss check progress #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @shaznosel: ask them to review film/book & share w class. Take time to discuss when they use Eng out of the class…tourists? #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ShellTerrell: @stiiiv Yes! But we don’t have to “grade” just maybe perhaps them discussing how they studied English outside of class #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | marekandrews: | @bethcagnol but we teachers are crucially motivators in helping ss to explore learning English more independently #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap > you think? they cost a fortune brand new |
| 9:44 pm | europeaantje: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat >Agree! it should be part of syllabus |
| 9:44 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Depends on your salary 😉 #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @vickyloras: I encourage them to keep track of whet they rare doing in a pdiary,on their computer or mobile devoce #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree |
| 9:44 pm | mmgrinberg: | RT @tarabenwell: @mmgrinberg I ask them to use the tag #corrections if they want corrections on blog post. Then I point out 1 error. They try to fix #ELTChat |
| 9:45 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin you shouldn’t have to buy them yourself – in past we used to ask parents to pay for one reader each #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm | vickyloras: | @ShellTerrell Dear Lord,what did I just write??? LOL #ELTChat Here we go again |
| 9:45 pm | fionamau: | RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap >> good Users Guide & Bookclub stuff at Macmillan graded readers web |
| 9:45 pm | ColinTGraham: | @IsilBoy Particularly levels of attention: listen for detail, gist, inference… scan, skim, summarize, etc. Practice in L1 first! #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap >> good Users Guide & Bookclub stuff at Macmillan graded readers web |
| 9:45 pm | europeaantje: | @ErenNesrin no correction? no rewriting? only building in a time lapse? #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Can be hard enough to get them to pay for course 😉 and argue about coursebook cost too. Readers are luxury! #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm | BethCagnol: | @marekandrews True. We moderators try to encourage the students. The situation at this one uni is very specific, and interesting. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:45 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin you shouldn’t have to buy them yourself – in past we used to ask parents to pay for one reader each #eltchat ok |
| 9:45 pm | marekandrews: | @IsilBoy +not just strategies but to help ss think about the role of English in their lives both personal+professional #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm | vickyloras: | @ShellTerrell I encourage them to keep track of what they are doing in a diary,on their computer or mobile device #ELTChat |
| 9:45 pm | Marisa_C: | by paying for one reader the shool got a great collection for a lending library #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @marekandrews: gr8 to get ss to explore what they can do with their mobile phones in+outside class to learn English #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @marekandrews: @IsilBoy +not just strategies but to help ss think about the role of English in their lives both personal+professional #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | tarabenwell: | @sandymillin @Marisa_C Last year I encouraged all of my sts to get a microphone. It can make such a huge difference to self study. #ELTChat |
| 9:46 pm | bcnpaul1: | @sandymillin sts ditch the coursebook and get a reader #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | europeaantje: | @cerirhiannon always 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 9:46 pm | BethCagnol: | @marekandrews Autonomous learning is mandatory there. No classes. Teachers R told not 2 correct the students work. Only moderate. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:46 pm | sandymillin: | @bcnpaul1 Tell that to my boss 😉 #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | ISILBOY: | @bcnpaul1 @cioccas @Shaunwilden @ColinTGraham 2 improve my sts’ vocab, I taught them cognitive strategies first which helped a lot #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | ShellTerrell: | Mobile learning does encourage learner autonomy especially when it connects to learning by interacting w/ world around them #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | bcnpaul1: | @sandymillin give me his email ! 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | BethCagnol: | @vickyloras Wow! You read my mind. This afternoon I was considering asking my students to do that. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:46 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @stiiiv: Adrian Holliday wld argue autonomy is a universal. All students have it… It’s the institution/educ system that may restrict them #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | europeaantje: | @ShellTerrell speaking Italian? #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | cioccas: | #ELTchat Someone mentioned film earlier – I also encourage reading for higher levels & share my own books |
| 9:47 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @cioccas: #ELTchat Someone mentioned film earlier – I also encourage reading for higher levels & share my own books > me too |
| 9:47 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C by paying for one reader the school got a great collection for a lending library #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | mmgrinberg: | Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | Fuertesun: | @IsilBoy yes strats v importnt #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | europeaantje: | RT @europeaantje: @ShellTerrell speaking Italian? #ELTChat @vickyloras #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | Marisa_C: | @ShellTerrell Agree – u remember all our Ss have mobile phones – Sebohan tried using in a lesson #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | mattledding: | Neat thing with chatbot, is that ss enter question/response – tiny chunks, easy set up on a google form, finish w/ cool product. #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @IsilBoy: 2 improve my sts’ vocab, I taught them cognitive strategies first which helped a lot #eltchat > great idea |
| 9:48 pm | BethCagnol: | I’m amazed to see that autonomous learning can be a selling point for language schools. Include it in the learning package. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:48 pm | vickyloras: | @bethcagnol : )))) Great minds,eh? Ha ha #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Marisa_C Yes you know it was one of my fav moments of the course! 🙂 #Eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BethCagnol: I’m amazed to see that autonomous learning can be a selling point for language schools. Include it in the learning package. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:48 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | janetbianchini: | @ShellTerrell Mobile learning does encourage learner autonomy espec when connects 2 learning by interacting w/ world around them #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | sandymillin: | @cioccas Me too – I have lots of books from #bookcrossing which I want to pass on – great for learners 🙂 #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | cioccas: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | tarabenwell: | If you have any suggestions for mobile learning apps for learning English, please share here:http://www.facebook.com/EnglishApp #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | mattledding: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree |
| 9:48 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: If you have any suggestions for mobile learning apps for learning English, please share here: http://www.facebook.com/EnglishApp #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | Marisa_C: | @bethcagnol It is for us too – we sell autonomy check it herehttp://www.celt.edu.gr/English_as_a_Foreign_Language.htm #ELTCHAT |
| 9:49 pm | tarabenwell: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree |
| 9:49 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @tarabenwell: If u have any ideas for mobile learning apps for learning English, share here:http://on.fb.me/eodaY3 #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook . So far, it has worked well! #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | russell1955: | Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | Marisa_C: | @ShellTerrell I know!!! It’s a pity she didn’t get them to SEND the sms’s #Eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | europeaantje: | RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat | works beautifully on desktop too |
| 9:50 pm | russell1955: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook . So far,worked well! #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | ShellTerrell: | To encourage autonomy I give Ss choices each wk on our wiki of ways to further explore the subj then encourage they share in class #Eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | ErenNesrin: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree |
| 9:50 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | ColinTGraham: | @IsilBoy Lack of vocabulary is often the major stumbling block… I got beginning level Ss to make a personal picture dictionary #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | mmgrinberg: | Shall we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? They seem to be the key to everything #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | BethCagnol: | @Marisa_C That’s great! Thanks! Will definitely compare notes. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:50 pm | ISILBOY: | @bcnpaul1 @bethcagnol @Marisa_C they made movies w/ Dvolver to tell about their favourite cognitive strategies #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? They seem to be the key to everything #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat – YES! |
| 9:51 pm | cerirhiannon: | if autonomy = learning on your own we need to help ss acquire tools for noticing how languages work – build it into all classes #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | mattledding: | @tarabenwell voice search (in English) is great on mobile phones… android is pretty accurate in the latest versions. #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | vickyloras: | RT @russell1955 Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | BethCagnol: | @ShellTerrell Can you give us the link, Shelly? Or is it a members only thing? #ELTCHAT |
| 9:51 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @cerirhiannon: if autonomy = learning on your own we need to help ss acquire tools for noticing how languages work – build it into all classes #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | ColinTGraham: | @IsilBoy Cut out a page from a magazine or download a picture. Label ten+ items, then on reverse write 3 sentences using words… #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | mmgrinberg: | Gr8 tip ?@BethCagnol: RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook” #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | fionamau: | RT @sandymillin: @cioccas I have books from #bookcrossing which I want 2 pass on – gr8 fr learners #ELTchat HOWBOUT BOOKCROSSING IN CLASS? |
| 9:51 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @mmgrinberg: Gr8 tip ?@BethCagnol: RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook”#eltchat >nice |
| 9:51 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @mmgrinberg: Shll we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for another chat? they seem 2 be the key to everything #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? – Its gd topic for a #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: if autonomy = learning on your own we need to help ss acquire tools for noticing how languages work – build it into all classes #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | ShellTerrell: | @bethcagnol Here’s the link to my adult wiki but it needs maintenance #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | tarabenwell: | @Marisa_C @russell1955 Thanks for Audioboo tip. Just shared it with our Audio Group. Looking for Vocaroo alternatives. #ELTChat is awesome |
| 9:52 pm | Marisa_C: | @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | europeaantje: | @cerirhiannon tools, strategies, resources… #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | sandymillin: | @fionamau Have done it a couple of times – even had 1 SS join #bookcrossing #ELTchat |
| 9:52 pm | ErenNesrin: | RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | BethCagnol: | @cerirhiannon I think we also need to show students how they can go out into the world and learn (w/o us). #ELTCHAT |
| 9:52 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | marekandrews: | Great Learner Autonomy event at Brighton IATEFL April 15th http://brighton2011.wordpress.com/pce/#eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: @cerirhiannon tools, strategies, resources… #eltchat > yup |
| 9:52 pm | cioccas: | #ELTchat Our public libraries here have terrific resources for ELL so we encourage them to go there – take them on excursions |
| 9:52 pm | janetbianchini: | @IsilBoy #ELTchat What a great idea to get your ss to make Dvolver movies – they are great fun! |
| 9:52 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @bethcagnol: @cerirhiannon I think we also need to show students how they can go out into the world and learn (w/o us). #ELTCHAT>totally |
| 9:52 pm | BethCagnol: | @ShellTerrell Thanks sweety pie. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:52 pm | russell1955: | some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | ISILBOY: | @ColinTGraham Good idea! You can also use google docs and edit their page whenever you want and encourage peer correction #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | mmgrinberg: | Create online / Moodle tasks that they can revisit weeks later and encourage them to do so #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | VGoodyear: | sorry what is #eltchat & the current topic? |
| 9:53 pm | tarabenwell: | @ISILBOY Wow! Another great idea! Google Docs for Vocab notebook. I used to suggest small address books because alphabetized. #ELTChat |
| 9:53 pm | ISILBOY: | @janetbianchini Thank you Janet! They were very creative and had fun! #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: @cerirhiannon tools, strategies, resources… #eltchat > yup | love that Welsh way of writing “yup” 🙂 |
| 9:53 pm | fionamau: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more abt learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? >gd topic for a #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | sandymillin: | @VGoodyear Encouraging learner autonomy – only 5 minutes to go though #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | Marisa_C: | Our Business English Ss love uploading presentation in their wiki and using English Central for pron work #ELTchat |
| 9:54 pm | fionamau: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies i – Its gd topic for a #eltchat > sounds like it shd be |
| 9:54 pm | BethCagnol: | I “joke” around with colleagues saying that I hope to be unemployed in 20 years (re: learner autonomy). #ELTCHAT |
| 9:54 pm | kyraocity: | RT @colintgraham: How do you handle students who don’t want 2b autonomous? #ELTchat <– Find out what matters to her in life & connect 2that |
| 9:54 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @kyraocity: RT @colintgraham: How do you handle students who don’t want 2b autonomous? #ELTchat <– Find out what matters to her in life & connect 2that |
| 9:54 pm | stiiiv: | Easy 2 think about auton as end point, but it’s clearly the journey. Lnr train’g can’t be tokenistic or 1-off. needs 2 B embedded #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | BethCagnol: | @VGoodyear Ways to develop learner autonomy ? tips for learning outside class time. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:54 pm | andrefn18: | RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | fionamau: | RT @sandymillin: @fionamau Have done it a couple of times – even had 1 SS join #bookcrossing#ELTchat >> Hmm. U’ve given me an idea 🙂 Thnx |
| 9:54 pm | andrefn18: | RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | sandymillin: | RT @bcnpaul1: @mbogey: Instant mLearning idea! Challenge ss 2 switch phone lang 2 Eng for 1 wk (or 24hrs) #mobseeta #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @mbogey: Instant mLearning idea! Challenge yr ss to switch phone language to Eng for 1 wk (or 24hrs) #eltchat #mobseeta |
| 9:55 pm | Fuertesun: | @kyraocity slowly #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | VGoodyear: | @sandymillin is this a chat every week #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | vickyloras: | RT @fionamau RT @vickyloras: I try 2 show adults auton. learning cn b done while doin sth,e.g.TALKING TO SELF IN SHOWER role plays #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | DinaDobrou: | @bcnpaul1 Great idea! #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | sandymillin: | @VGoodyear Twice on a Wednesday 12 GMT and 9pm GMT #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | russell1955: | I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | ColinTGraham: | @IsilBoy Using Diigo bookmarks and the highlight/comment features would also work as a high-tech version of cutting up magazines! #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | BethCagnol: | @kyraocity @colintgraham When autonomy is “forced” it ain’t so easy. Again I work in one place where the ss don’t have a choice. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:55 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | ISILBOY: | @tarabenwell Thanks Tara! Instead of google notebook, google docs is much better 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | marekandrews: | When the best leader’s work is done the people say, ‘We did it ourselves!’ Lao-tsu. #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @tarabenwell: @ISILBOY Wow! Another great idea! Google Docs for Vocab notebook. . #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | vickyloras: | @Fuertesun Sorry just saw yr tweet-yes,it can be difficult at times.I insist a lot in my own way ha ha!!! #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | mmgrinberg: | I often say (and make it sound like slip) smth like: it will be still helpful when I won’t be teaching u anymore #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | VGoodyear: | @bethcagnol great thanks- very interesting conversations I have stummbled into #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | janetbianchini: | @VGoodyear #ELTCHAT Hi – yes it’s on every Wednesday with 2 different topics, one in afternoon one in evening |
| 9:56 pm | tarabenwell: | @russell1955 I often quote that tutorial of yours “You don’t need an iPod!” #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | mattledding: | On learner autonomy, has anyone mentioned project gutenburg? Heaps of free ebooks.http://www.gutenberg.org #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | fionamau: | RT @tarabenwell: @ISILBOY Wow! Another gr8 idea! Google Docs for Vocab notebk.I used 2 suggest small address books cz alphabetized. #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | Marisa_C: | @tarabenwell #ELTChat we use small address books for our Ss – Ts tend to buy them for them & have learner trainng lessons #ELTchat |
| 9:56 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @mattledding: On learner autonomy, has anyone mentioned project gutenburg? Heaps of free ebooks. http://bit.ly/9KnP4F #eltchat>gd tip |
| 9:56 pm | ISILBOY: | Gr8! RT @ColinTGraham: Using Diigo bookmarks and the highlight/comment features & a high-tech version of cutting up magazines! #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | Fuertesun: | @vickyloras it’s fast tnite #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | lydbury: | @bethcagnol Hey – you retiring at 41? 🙂 #ELTCHAT |
| 9:57 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C What do they use the address books for? #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | VGoodyear: | @sandymillin great thanks great discussions #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | mmgrinberg: | @russell1955 iTunes is a gr8 idea #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @mattledding: On learner autonomy, has anyone mentioned project gutenburg? Heaps of free ebooks. http://bit.ly/9KnP4F #eltchat>gd tip |
| 9:57 pm | WarwickLinguist: | Exactly you don’t need iPod to use iTunes. People think you do # #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | sandymillin: | RT @WarwickLinguist: Exactly you don’t need iPod to use iTunes. People think you do # #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | ColinTGraham: | @bethcagnol Maybe there are some opportunities where limited choices can be made available. Not all situations are the same though #ELTCHAT |
| 9:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin they make topic pages for vocab & then make word clouds or spidergrams or pics to label on same topic #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | EwelinaGonera: | RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | sandymillin: | @WarwickLinguist Or to listen to podcasts #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Nice idea #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | shaznosel: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @marekandrews: gr8 to get ss to explore what they can do with their mobile phones in+outside class to learn English #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | Fuertesun: | @sandymillin G is for google doc B is for BBC ? #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | fionamau: | RT @marekandrews: When the best leader’s work is done the people say, ‘We did it ourselves!’ Lao-tsu. #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | BethCagnol: | @Marisa_C @tarabenwell That is a fab idea (learner training lesson). I think I’ll add that to this semesters syllabi. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:58 pm | VGoodyear: | @sandymillin cooperative learning strategies using wiki’s where each student is accountable for their learning have worked 4 me #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | ISILBOY: | RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin they make topic pages for vocab & then make word clouds or spidergrams or pics to label on same topic #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | tarabenwell: | @Marisa_C The address book made so much sense for vocab before smartphones. Nobody could complain they couldn’t afford one. #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C That’s nice gonna steal that! #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | marekandrews: | Developing Learner Autonomy, Dick Allwright with Leni Dam http://tinyurl.com/4bxz8qd #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Fuertesun: @sandymillin B is for BBC ? #ELTChat > what’s left of it after the cuts 🙁 |
| 9:59 pm | bcnpaul1: | @Marisa_C sounds like a blogpost 🙂 #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | Marisa_C: | @BethCagnol make “Lesson” Plural – Lessons ! One is not enough #ELTCHAT |
| 9:59 pm | sandymillin: | @Fuertesun Expensive way of listing tools they can use at home 😉 #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | BethCagnol: | @lydbury Well, no, but I do hope no one needs an English teacher when I’m 41. Especially if we all keep doing fab jobs as teachers. #ELTCHAT |
| 10:00 pm | mmgrinberg: | Btw, did we mention portfolios? The topic pages can go there #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | BethCagnol: | @lydbury I was kinda half kiddin’ there. #ELTCHAT |
| 10:00 pm | ColinTGraham: | @IsilBoy I think you could also use something like Glogster to combine pictures, vocab notes, links to audio etc… #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | Fuertesun: | @sandymillin just got explanation ignore mine! #ELTChat |
| 10:00 pm | janetbianchini: | When I studied Greek I used to cut out magazine articles and stick them in notebook and then look up words -worked a treat #ELTCHAT |
| 10:00 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @mmgrinberg: Btw, did we mention portfolios? The topic pages can go there #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 or a DELTA assignment on this – of which I have tons – may I’ll put one of them up 🙂 #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | BethCagnol: | @Marisa_C SOOO true. Totally agree. #ELTCHAT |
| 10:00 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! Great idea! RT @mmgrinberg: Btw, did we mention portfolios? The topic pages can go there #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | mmgrinberg: | Language passports from the coursebooks are quite helpful even with lower levels #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | lydbury: | I guessed @bethcagnol #ELTCHAT |
| 10:01 pm | tarabenwell: | The English learners on MyEC may not need me. The moderators (English learners) are doing an amazing job. So proud of them. #ELTCHat |
| 10:01 pm | DinaDobrou: | @janetbianchini Or read the cereal box in the morning, or the menu in restaurants. 😛 #ELTchat |
| 10:01 pm | mmgrinberg: | A checklist for diff types of mistakes can be helpful, too #eltchat “Check before, check after” in ‘Dealing with difclts’ |
| 10:01 pm | ISILBOY: | that’s my plan for the second term 🙂 RT @ColinTGraham: I think you could also use something like Glogster #eltchat |
| 10:02 pm | mattledding: | RT @janetbianchini: When I studied Greek I used to cut out magazine articles and stick them in notebook and then look up words -worked a treat #ELTCHAT |
| 10:02 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou I made a silly xtranormal on this “The Eat your Way into English” new method 🙂 #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | ShellTerrell: | Thanks everyone for another lively & great #eltchat Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C |
| 10:03 pm | cioccas: | #ELTchat we have radio for print handicapped so encourage Ss to listen & read same article in newspaper |
| 10:03 pm | janetbianchini: | @DinaDobrou Yes, all those tips are great! I encourage ss to copy signs / posters they see and bring in to class #ELTCHAT |
| 10:03 pm | vickyloras: | SUPER IDEA!RT @janetbianchini When I studied Greek,used2cut out magazine articles,stick in notebk&then look up wds-worked a treat #ELTCHAT |
| 10:03 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ShellTerrell: Thanks everyone for another lively & great #eltchat Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C thanks |
| 10:03 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ShellTerrell: Thanks everyone for another lively & great #eltchat Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C | and by you 🙂 |
| 10:03 pm | BethCagnol: | @DinaDobrou Or save lost tourists during a transport strike (I tell mine to camp out at major metro hubs to practice their English. #ELTCHAT |
| 10:03 pm | sarah_SKB: | Really interesting ideas – thanks! #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ShellTerrell: Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C > thx to both of you and all the other #eltchat – ters -gr8 convo 🙂 |
| 10:03 pm | bcnpaul1: | another energising #eltchat makes my wednesday so it does… but have to go. thank you @marisa_c& @shellterrell. |
| 10:04 pm | tarabenwell: | RT @vickyloras: SUPER IDEA!RT @janetbianchini When I studied Greek,used2cut out magazine articles,stick in notebk&then look up wds-worked a treat #ELTCHAT |
| 10:04 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat |
| 10:04 pm | stiiiv: | good to follow. thanks #eltchat |
| 10:04 pm | BethCagnol: | @janetbianchini @DinaDobrou Or telephone a hotel, make a reservation, then cancel the next day. Location: their choice. #ELTCHAT |
| 10:04 pm | vickyloras: | Amazing #ELTChat – thanks to everyone! |
| 10:04 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: Oh! It’s over already! Thank you all for joining in! Time has flown right past me again – great conversation #eltchat 😉 |
| 10:04 pm | DinaDobrou: | @bethcagnol That’s really great! Hope we’ll get lots of tourists in Greece this summer, then! 😛 #ELTchat |
| 10:04 pm | mattledding: | Thanks for a great #eltchat… good ideas gleaned. |
| 10:04 pm | europeaantje: | #ELTchat time flies… |
| 10:05 pm | janetbianchini: | I encourage ss to keep notebook for all slang / vocab they hear in the street / in homestay families+bring to class to peer teach #ELTCHAT |
| 10:05 pm | ColinTGraham: | Thanks for the conversations everyone! #ELTCHAT |
| 10:05 pm | BethCagnol: | Another energising #eltchat Thank you @marisa_c and @shellterrell. |
| 10:05 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @janetbianchini: I encourage ss to keep notebook for all slang / vocab they hear in the street / in homestay families+bring to class to peer teach #ELTCHAT |
| 10:05 pm | bcnpaul1: | goodnight all #eltchat |
| 10:05 pm | lydbury: | RT @bethcagnol: Another energising #eltchat Thank you @marisa_c and @shellterrell. <yeah |
| 10:05 pm | DinaDobrou: | Is it over? We’re still exchanging ideas! Let’s have an ‘after’ party #ELTchat lol |
| 10:05 pm | ErenNesrin: | RT @janetbianchini: #ELTchat Getting ss to perform real-life tasks (in UK) eg market day in Oxford ss would go out to do teachers’ shopping – they loved it! |
| 10:06 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @janetbianchini: I encourage ss to keep notebook for all slang / vocab they hear in the street / in homestay families+bring to class to peer teach #ELTCHAT |
| 10:06 pm | Fuertesun: | Thanks everyone night! #eltchat |
| 10:06 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat My tweet re army reads like they don’t normally think.I meant I ask them 2 think abt next class topic at home.Many prep’d vocab etc |
| 10:06 pm | mmgrinberg: | Another gr8 #eltchat, thanks to @Marisa_C and @ShellTerrell the glorious moderators! |
| 10:06 pm | BethCagnol: | Bonne nuit @marisa_c @shellterrell and to my fave #ELTCHAT ers. Sorry only caught the last 20mn, but it was great! |
| 10:06 pm | VGoodyear: | enjoyed stumbling into #eltchat – some helpful information and a lot of learning: I recommend! |
| 10:06 pm | cioccas: | #ELTchat Thanks everyone – I’ve been following on my phone & sharing with my colleagues! |
| 10:06 pm | vladkaslniecko: | Thanks for really great #eltchat 🙂 |
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