Ways to develop learner autonomy – tips for learning outside class time. #ELTchat transcript 26/01/11

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Ways to develop learner autonomy – tips for learning outside class time. #ELTchat transcript 26/01/11

This is the transcript of the second #ELTchat on 26/01/2011 at 21:00 p.m. GTM

8:57 pm Marisa_C: @davedodgson 26-01-11 ELTchat review – The role and function of humour in the EFL class: f…http://bit.ly/f5H8ZS #elt #eltchat> Super!!!!
8:58 pm Marisa_C: Are you ready for #ELTchat????????
8:58 pm Fuertesun: @Marisa_C READY #ELTchat
8:59 pm SueannaN: Me too. Ready.#ELTchat
8:59 pm europeaantje: #eltchat get set…
8:59 pm mmgrinberg: Hi everybody! So, let’s talk about learner autonomy #eltchat
8:59 pm Fuertesun: @SueAnnan evening #ELTchat
8:59 pm Fuertesun: @europeaantje evening #eltchat
8:59 pm vickyloras: @Marisa_C Yahoooo!!! Whoop whoop!!! Ready #ELTChat
8:59 pm DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready for #ELTchat???????? > Yeeeeeeeeees!!! #ELTchat
8:59 pm cerirhiannon: #eltchat .. ready …
8:59 pm Marisa_C: @DaveDodgson It’s a great summary, David, thanks a million 🙂 #ELTchat and the Monty Python clip is a real hoot!
8:59 pm europeaantje: @Fuertesun buenas #eltchat
8:59 pm sandymillin: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. Developing learner autonomy
9:00 pm Marisa_C: Only FOUR ready for #ELTchat???
9:00 pm bcnpaul1: good evening #eltchat
9:00 pm Fuertesun: For the next hour I’ll be tweeting about learner autonomy and ways to help devp it #eltchat
9:00 pm SueannaN: RT @Fuertesun: For the next hour I’ll be tweeting about learner autonomy and ways to help devp it #eltchat
9:00 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C Five! #ELTchat
9:00 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Fuertesun: For the next hour I’ll be tweeting about learner autonomy and ways to help devp it #eltchat > me too
9:00 pm europeaantje: RT @Marisa_C: Only FOUR ready for #ELTchat??? | counting 10 atleast
9:00 pm DaveDodgson: @Marisa_C Glad you liked it. Afraid I can’t stay for another #ELTchat – have a good one!
9:00 pm Fuertesun: @bcnpaul1 evening #eltchat
9:00 pm Marisa_C: Hi everyone on #ELTchat – Let’s talk Learner Autonomy
9:00 pm SueannaN: @Fuertesun Hi there #ELTchat
9:01 pm mmgrinberg: #eltchat #eltchat Ready #eltchat #eltchat Hello Hello Hello !!!
9:01 pm Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Do we mean autonomy in and out of class? #ELTchat
9:01 pm bcnpaul1: @Fuertesun good evening. How’s things? #eltchat
9:01 pm vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C 🙂 ready for #ELTchat
9:01 pm JoshSRound: Evening all! #ELTchat
9:01 pm Fuertesun: @bcnpaul1 good thx Paul and u? #eltchat
9:01 pm sandymillin: #eltchat I show learners ideas from my own language learning -so they know what can work: writing coloured words on paper & putting on walls
9:01 pm Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #EFL #esl #edchat
9:01 pm Fuertesun: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I show learners ideas from my own language learning -so they know what can work: writing coloured words on paper & putting on walls
9:02 pm bcnpaul1: @Fuertesun I’m good – tired but good #eltchat
9:02 pm cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready for #ELTchat???????? < Ready! But on mobile so slow to tweet I think!
9:02 pm mmgrinberg: RT @sandymillin: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. Developing learner autonomy
9:02 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #EFL #esl #edchat
9:02 pm mmgrinberg: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I show learners ideas from my own language learning -so they know what can work: writing coloured words on paper & putting on walls
9:02 pm Fuertesun: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #EFL #esl #edchat
9:02 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Marisa_C: Hi everyone on #ELTchat – Let’s talk Learner Autonomy
9:02 pm fionamau: #eltchat evening, team
9:02 pm sandymillin: @Fuertesun Bit of both I think – giving them the skills to study by themselves (I use same ideas now without classes) #eltchat
9:02 pm Marisa_C: @ShellTerrel and I will be your moderators this evening so please ask for help if you are new to #ELTchat
9:02 pm harrisonmike: #ELTchat I highly recommend that you give mLearning tech and tools (not always smartphones) for learner autonomy #mobseeta
9:03 pm SueannaN: @fionamau Hi Fiona #eltchat
9:03 pm sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrel and I will be your moderators this evening so please ask for help if you are new to #ELTchat
9:03 pm cioccas: Can’t wait to read transcript from previous #ELTchat on humour in ELT!
9:03 pm DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrel and I will be your moderators this evening so please ask for help if you are new to #ELTchat
9:03 pm harrisonmike: #ELTchat .. and that’s just from talking about mobile for 4 days on the #seeta fora #mobseeta
9:03 pm vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat
9:03 pm harrisonmike: RT @vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat
9:04 pm Fuertesun: RT @vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat
9:04 pm bcnpaul1: @harrisonmike LOL #eltchat
9:04 pm Marisa_C: @mmgrinberg Shows his learners by being a good role model #eltchat
9:04 pm SueannaN: @harrisonmike funny #ELTchat #seeta #mobseeta
9:04 pm cioccas: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat on Learner Autonomy – Come join the conversation #baw2011 #mobseeta #evople
9:04 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Do we mean autonomy in and out of class? #ELTchat > I guess autonomy in class should hopefully extend outside too?
9:04 pm sandymillin: @vickyloras #ELTChat We also discuss films in class – most of my SS are cinema-goers
9:04 pm vladkaslniecko: @SueAnnan yes, it’s very complicated with homeworks….hmmm…http://tiny.cc/0khdd …some of my ideas #eltchat
9:05 pm SueannaN: @vladkaslniecko thanks Vladka #eltchat
9:05 pm Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat
9:05 pm janetbianchini: Hi there #ELTchat Good evening all! I’m ready for the chat
9:05 pm europeaantje: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat
9:05 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @vickyloras: I suggest websites,radio stations for them,what i think is interesting and can motivate them to use these things outside class #ELTChat
9:05 pm bcnpaul1: but activities that they have chosen to do so the autonomy begins in the c’room making ’em more motivated out of it #eltchat
9:05 pm Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon great minds….:-) #ELTchat
9:05 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat > agree
9:05 pm janetbianchini: RT @harrisonmike #ELTchat I highly recommend that you give mLearning tech and tools (not always smartphones) for learner autonomy #mobseeta
9:05 pm cerirhiannon: RT @bcnpaul1: but activities chosen to do so the autonomy begins in the c’room making ’em more motivated out of it #eltchat > choice is key
9:06 pm mmgrinberg: @Marisa_C Sorry for sounding a little bit awkward #eltchat
9:06 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat > agree
9:06 pm harrisonmike: #ELtchat For my elementary sts I put them on to #BBC World News for Children (now Schools)http://bbc.in/aWCvo0 #podcast #listening
9:06 pm Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat
9:06 pm Fuertesun: @cerirhiannon YES but spse YLs less autonomous outside class? #ELTchat
9:06 pm sandymillin: #eltchat I use Edmodo with students. Any good links from here posted on there to give them ideas. They can post links they find too
9:06 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat
9:06 pm vickyloras: @sandymillin Yes,movies are a great idea-they pay attention to expressions and come and use them then,it’s a fun way to learn #ELTChat
9:06 pm DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat
9:06 pm sarah_SKB: @bcnpaul1 what sort of activities? what guidance do you give? #eltchat
9:06 pm Fuertesun: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I use Edmodo with students. Any good links from here posted on there to give them ideas. They can post links they find too
9:07 pm fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat
9:07 pm lydbury: Helping the learner to become independent and become his/her own mentor is a great goal #eltchat
9:07 pm cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat
9:07 pm sandymillin: @cerirhiannon Same problem with Edmodo – about half of my SS use it #eltchat
9:07 pm vickyloras: RT @harrisonmike #ELtchat 4my elem sts I put them on to #BBC World News for Children (now Schools) http://bbc.in/aWCvo0 #podcast #listening
9:07 pm bcnpaul1: I’ve started showing them how to do things on the blog which they do at home (toondoo, embedding youtube, posterous for docs etc. ) #eltchat
9:07 pm Fuertesun: @cerirhiannon I use it with my one-to-ones they’re pretty good #eltchat
9:07 pm ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:07 pm lydbury: @Marisa_C yes, with you there 100% #eltchat
9:07 pm DinaDobrou: @vickyloras @sandymillin And filsms with English subs (maybe of films they want to see again and are familiar. #ELTchat
9:07 pm ShellTerrell: RT @bcnpaul1: I’ve started showing them how to do things on the blog which they do at home (toondoo, embedding youtube, posterous for docs etc. ) #eltchat
9:07 pm Fuertesun: RT @ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:07 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C For me learner autonomy is THE main goal of a good teacher – to make your Ss independent of the T #ELTchat
9:08 pm JoshSRound: Is it easier to promote autonomy with YLs?- adults more set in their learning ways? #ELTchat
9:08 pm Marisa_C: Allowing choice and making Ss part of the decision making abt class activities a great beginning for becoming more autonomous #ELTchat
9:08 pm fionamau: RT @Fuertesun: @cerirhiannon YES but spse YLs less autonomous outside class? #ELTchat >> they need a bigger carrot but it’s poss w teens
9:08 pm europeaantje: @SueAnnan keep going at it Sue. keep thinking of interesting stuff to put up. ask for collaboration #ELTchat
9:08 pm ShellTerrell: @SueAnnan I’ve had a lot of enthusiasm with my adult learners and their willingness to do the homework in the wiki! #ELTChat
9:08 pm harrisonmike: I like @vladkaslniecko‘s suggestion – do what you do, but in English. Can’t remember the link to where she blogged the tip though. #eltchat
9:08 pm lydbury: @DinaDobrou @vickyloras @sandymillin Or films they have watched in their own language and watch again in English #eltchat
9:08 pm sandymillin: @cerirhiannon #eltchat Works with DVDs too – they can normally chose to watch in English w/ or w/out subtitles
9:08 pm Fuertesun: @vickyloras yes it’s the goal but ss don’t really understand that? #ELTchat
9:08 pm bcnpaul1: gonna show them voicethread this week hoping they want to do it at home… thanks for that idea guido #eltchat
9:08 pm mattledding: Asynch collaboration ie: shared google doc, gives a certain responsibility and opens discussions between ss. Also leaves record. #eltchat
9:08 pm ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @JoshSRound: Is it easier to promote autonomy with YLs?- adults more set in their learning ways? #ELTchat
9:08 pm vladkaslniecko: I have recently used vocaroo. com with my studetns…so that they can practice speaking and listening at home #eltchat
9:08 pm mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat
9:08 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Marisa_C: Allowing choice and making Ss part of the decision making abt class activities a great beginning for becoming more autonomous #ELTchat
9:08 pm cerirhiannon: RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon #eltchat Works with DVDs too – they can normally chose to watch in English w/ or w/out subtitles >v true
9:08 pm DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell Reminds me of: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat
9:09 pm sandymillin: @JoshSRound I would have said easier with adults – more aware of how to learn and how to access tools #ELTchat
9:09 pm ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat
9:09 pm ColinTGraham: How do you handle students who don’t want to be autonomous? I’ve experienced this with some adults, surprisingly… #ELTchat
9:09 pm Marisa_C: @Fuertesun In some cultures Ss expect to be dependent on the T, so it will take a longer time to wean them out of this mindset #ELTchat
9:09 pm europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 will have slideshow ready tonite guiding sts thru voicethread #eltchat
9:09 pm janetbianchini: RT @ShellTerrell One of the most important goals of my role as teacher is to provide students w tools 2 b able 2 learn on their own #Eltchat
9:09 pm joannaprieto: RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat
9:09 pm mattledding: RT @ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:09 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat
9:09 pm lee74: RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome! RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. ‘Einstein” #ELTchat
9:09 pm fionamau: @cerirhiannon #eltchat I create class blogs and yahoogroups. Yahoogroups are used for uploading reading material and listening material
9:09 pm bcnpaul1: @JoshSRound easier with yls – I wouldn’t say there ws a huge amount of difference. motivated sts will become autonomous regardless #eltchat
9:10 pm sandymillin: RT @ColinTGraham: How do you handle students who don’t want to be autonomous? I’ve experienced this with some adults, surprisingly… #ELTchat
9:10 pm Marisa_C: @ColinTGraham SLowly and systematically but very persistently 🙂 #ELTchat
9:10 pm lydbury: RT @DinaDobrou: I never teach my sts. I simply provide the situations in which they can learn. Einstein” <Yeah! #eltchat
9:10 pm dofskid: Teacher approach is key to success but they have to learn how to encourage autonomy. #ELTchat
9:10 pm marekandrews: @ShellTerrell and learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses #eltchat
9:10 pm ErenNesrin: I start by having Ss set objectives & then have them evaluate their progress.if not achieved Ss think abt diff strategies 2 employ #ELTchat
9:10 pm ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @marekandrews: learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses #eltchat
9:10 pm bcnpaul1: @europeaantje fantastic!! 🙂 #eltchat pls send me link when it’s ready (no pressure!!)
9:10 pm lydbury: RT @marekandrews: @ShellTerrell and learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses <yes #eltchat
9:11 pm Marisa_C: @marekandrews Exactly – I think we should take it as a given that L-training for autonomy is a main goal for the process focused T #eltchat
9:11 pm lydbury: @ErenNesrin Does that help autonomy? #eltchat
9:11 pm mmgrinberg: I put some extra listening passages on Moodle and some of my ss do some dictogloss-like activities at home #eltchat
9:11 pm fionamau: #eltchat also, as a dogmeist, ie #dogme bod, I usually find that sts become quite autonomous as a knock-on effect
9:11 pm dofskid: I have made some Autonomous learning study guides to use which include awareness building exercises. #ELTchat
9:11 pm ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the toolshttp://bit.ly/f9PcIE #eltchat
9:11 pm vickyloras: RT @marekandrews: @ShellTerrell and learning to learn should be a regular feature+topic to be researched by ss on all courses #eltchat
9:11 pm vladkaslniecko: @marekandrews that’s why i try to use various MI activities in classroom …so that they learn what suits them most #eltchat
9:11 pm ShellTerrell: RT @vladkaslniecko: @marekandrews that’s why i try to use various MI activities in classroom …so that they learn what suits them most #eltchat
9:11 pm bcnpaul1: how does autonomy begin in the c’room? 1.give them choice. what else? #eltchat
9:11 pm mmgrinberg: In general, Moodle is extremely useful and still it’s kind of ‘semi-autonomous’ learning, isn’t it? #eltchat
9:11 pm dofskid: + support in a self access centre #ELTchat
9:12 pm Marisa_C: @fionamau suggests that certain approaches – e,g. dogme – have a built in autonomy capsule!!! 🙂 #eltchat #dogme
9:12 pm Fuertesun: Is it easier to tch YLs to be autonomous? Not necessarily adlts have more more cognitive maturity #eltchat
9:12 pm sandymillin: #eltchat Does having a coursebook limit opportunities for autonomy?
9:12 pm ColinTGraham: Student-generated content can help enormously with motivation, as can peer pressure/role modelling of autonomy #ELTchat
9:12 pm harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat
9:12 pm vickyloras: I liked what @sandymillin said earlier,abt showing them how we learn languages – modelling learning #ELTChat
9:12 pm vladkaslniecko: 2. show them ways of learning #eltchat
9:12 pm ShellTerrell: RT @ErenNesrin: I start by having Ss set objectives & then have them evaluate their progress.if not achieved Ss think abt diff strategies 2 employ #ELTchat
9:12 pm europeaantje: just chucking this into #eltchat: the 40 odd websites “to learn Eng o/t web” on our class moodle pages http://bit.ly/ij78i2
9:12 pm ShellTerrell: RT @dofskid: Teacher approach is key to success but they have to learn how to encourage autonomy. #ELTchat
9:12 pm Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools http://bit.ly/f9PcIE #eltchat
9:12 pm bcnpaul1: RT @fionamau: #eltchat also, as a dogmeist, ie #dogme bod, I usually find that sts become quite autonomous as a knock-on effect >hopefully!
9:12 pm lydbury: @vladkaslniecko @marekandrews ?MI? #eltchat
9:12 pm ShellTerrell: RT @fionamau: @cerirhiannon #eltchat I create class blogs and yahoogroups. Yahoogroups are used for uploading reading material and listening material
9:13 pm DinaDobrou: @ColinTGraham Me too. They expect everything to be done in class. They usually react like this when they don’t have free time. #ELTchat
9:13 pm ShellTerrell: RT @ColinTGraham: How do you handle students who don’t want to be autonomous? I’ve experienced this with some adults, surprisingly… #ELTchat
9:13 pm sandymillin: @vickyloras Thanks 🙂 #ELTChat Other modelling I do includes recording things in my A2 level Czech, and challenging them to do better
9:13 pm Fuertesun: @sandymillin no give em choice start where they want do hmwrk they want ? #eltchat
9:13 pm europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 tonight! (need deadlines 🙂 #eltchat
9:13 pm mmgrinberg: @bcnpaul1 Give them tools like spidergrams, guessing from context, train dictionary use #eltchat
9:13 pm Marisa_C: RT @ColinTGraham: Student-generated content can help enormously with motivation, as can peer pressure/role modelling of autonomy #ELTchat
9:13 pm ShellTerrell: RT @mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat
9:13 pm marekandrews: @Marisa_C the process of learning to learn shd be fully integrated into language learning so they are 1+the same thing #eltchat
9:13 pm bcnpaul1: RT @harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat > defo (& remember them)
9:13 pm Shaunwilden: Phew got to my hotel in San diego in time to take part in #eltchat hi all
9:13 pm Marisa_C: RT @mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat > I started with a shoebox ended with 6 wikis 😀
9:13 pm Fuertesun: @cioccas yes adlts often reluctant #eltchat
9:13 pm ShellTerrell: @mmgrinberg Can you describe “a self-access box” I’m not sure I know what that is #ELTChat
9:13 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau suggests that certain approaches – e,g. dogme – have a built in autonomy capsule!!! 🙂 #eltchat #dogme
9:13 pm europeaantje: RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools http://bit.ly/f9PcIE #eltchat
9:13 pm ColinTGraham: @lydbury MI = Multiple Intelligences, I suspect #eltchat
9:13 pm ShellTerrell: RT @mattledding: Asynch collaboration ie: shared google doc, gives a certain responsibility and opens discussions between ss. Also leaves record. #eltchat
9:14 pm buddyxo: RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials to show them how to do the homework & use the tools http://bit.ly/f9PcIE #eltchat
9:14 pm ISILBOY: RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: On my wiki I add video screen tutorials2show them how 2do the hw&use the tools http://bit.ly/f9PcIE #eltchat
9:14 pm lydbury: We only have adult students for one or two weeks intensive. So auytonomy for continued elarning is essential. #eltchat
9:14 pm cerirhiannon: RT @marekandrews: @Marisa_C the process of learning to learn shd be fully integrated into language learning so they are 1+the same thing #eltchat
9:14 pm dofskid: All classes can use a self access centre we have on campus #ELTchat
9:14 pm DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C Self-access box?? #ELTchat
9:14 pm mmgrinberg: I think that a lot of activities from the Minimax book (ss generated tests) lead to autonomy #eltchat
9:14 pm vladkaslniecko: @sandymillin no..if you show them that the content can be enriched using the authentic material…connection to real life #eltchat
9:14 pm alezavrill: When sts feel forced 2 use technology ’cause teachers tend 2 constantly evaluate everything they do online, it becomes meaningless #eltchat
9:14 pm cioccas: @sandymillin @ColinTGraham ive also had adults reluctant to be autonomous, expecting teacher to spoon feed! #ELTchat
9:14 pm lydbury: Ah – thanks #eltchat
9:14 pm Marisa_C: @lydbury That is the mark of a good course for me – if no autonomy built in not good enough #eltchat
9:14 pm europeaantje: RT @mmgrinberg: Moodle is extremely useful and still it’s kind of ‘semi-autonomous’ learning, isn’t it? #eltchat | needs good content
9:14 pm sandymillin: @Fuertesun Good idea. 1 more prob w/ CB though is shared classes – have another teach who I need to get on side (doesn’t stop me!) #eltchat
9:14 pm ColinTGraham: @DinaDobrou It’s a cultural thing too, as mentioned earlier, where Teacher/Student relationship is pre-defined (Japan in my case) #ELTchat
9:14 pm bcnpaul1: RT @mmgrinberg: Give them tools like spidergrams, guessing from context, train dictionary use #eltchat > yes! tools to become autonomous
9:15 pm ShellTerrell: Agree! Also important goal! RT @lydbury: Helping the learner to become independent and become his/her own mentor is a great goal #eltchat
9:15 pm lydbury: @cioccas @sandymillin @ColinTGraham Surprised to hear that #eltchat
9:15 pm janetbianchini: Self-evaluation tutorials with tutor / mentor have worked very well in the past – helps ss to focus on their own particular needs #ELTchat
9:15 pm fionamau: RT @bcnpaul1: how does autonomy begin in the c’room? what else? #eltchat Use st-generated materials, then they’re motivated to look/create
9:15 pm mmgrinberg: @ShellTerrell A box with extra materials that the ss can borrow / take. Am I right? Haven’t tried it yet #eltchat
9:15 pm Marisa_C: @DinaDobrou Well, you never saw that! May some old files still around from Self Access but now all in wiki #ELTchat
9:15 pm sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: @lydbury That is the mark of a good course for me – if no autonomy built in not good enough #eltchat
9:15 pm vickyloras: @Shaunwilden Hi Shaun! #ELTChat
9:16 pm ColinTGraham: @lydbury It may also be an issue of EFL vs ESOL where requirements and expections can be very different at times #eltchat
9:16 pm lydbury: @mmgrinberg @ShellTerrell Do the materials come back? 🙁 #eltchat
9:16 pm janetbianchini: Oops – forgot to add #ELTchat to my tweets – will copy and paste them again if I can find them!
9:16 pm peteschneider: RT @ShellTerrell: ….my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:16 pm ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:16 pm lydbury: @ColinTGraham @lydbury Very true #eltchat
9:16 pm Fuertesun: RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:16 pm cerirhiannon: lost wifi but back again – doing a bit of lurking to catch up 🙁 #eltchat
9:16 pm harrisonmike: Alright, must sleep long one tomorrow (1st class starts 9.30am, last finishes at 8.30pm). Have a fun #eltchat all =)
9:16 pm marekandrews: Developing learner autonomy, lecture by Leni Dam who’s done gr8 work for learner autonomyhttp://tinyurl.com/6kptuek #eltchat
9:16 pm mmgrinberg: @lydbury @shellterrell They can be just photocopies. Anyway, Moodle is better if everybody is tech-savvy #eltchat
9:17 pm fionamau: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Does having a coursebk limit opportunities 4 autonomy?>> no, only T-fronted,coursebk based, unadventurous teaching
9:17 pm Fuertesun: @harrisonmike night #eltchat
9:17 pm ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: A box with extra materials that the ss can borrow / take. #eltchat
9:17 pm Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell A box with extra materials – Ss can borrow/ take > Good for early finishers too #ELTchat
9:17 pm dofskid: in the classroom students can share ideas on what and how they study and also discuss motivation and study styles #ELTchat
9:17 pm cioccas: @mmgrinberg: Do you have a self-access box in your classroom? #eltchat < Self-access box in our LMS &/or class blog
9:17 pm bcnpaul1: @fionamau definitely- if sts r co-creating they r motivated & therefore more autonomous. also more aware of strengths & limitations #eltchat
9:17 pm lydbury: @janetbianchini Use tweetchat.com/room/eltchat – it does it for you #eltchat
9:17 pm Marisa_C: RT @peteschneider: RT @ShellTerrell: .my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:17 pm annabooklover: RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:17 pm cerirhiannon: RT @dofskid: in the classroom students can share ideas on what and how they study and also discuss motivation and study styles #ELTchat
9:17 pm sandymillin: RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:17 pm sarah_SKB: Are your wikis etc attached to the school or open to everyone? My school has policies on teaching ‘outside’ students #eltchat
9:17 pm janetbianchini: Encourage ss 2 take out books/DVDs from school library + they write short feedback comments in a special folder for other ss 2 read #ELTchat
9:17 pm Shaunwilden: RT @lydbury: Helping the learner to become independent and become his/her own mentor is a great goal #eltchat – agreed this is an imp point
9:17 pm buddyxo: RT @bcnpaul1: I’ve started showing them how to do things on the blog which they do at home (toondoo, embedding youtube, posterous for docs etc. ) #eltchat
9:17 pm ErenNesrin: Raising Ss awareness on strategy training and having Ss reflect on their learning(awareness on metacognition)+ providing options #ELTchat
9:17 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: RT @peteschneider: RT @ShellTerrell: .my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:17 pm vickyloras: @harrisonmike Night,Mike!We have the exact same schedule tomorrow lol #ELTChat
9:17 pm DinaDobrou: @ColinTGraham True. Hadn’t thought of that. #ELTchat
9:17 pm bcnpaul1: RT @ErenNesrin: Raising Ss awareness on strategy training and having Ss reflect on their learning(awareness on metacognition)+ providing options #ELTchat
9:18 pm fionamau: RT @harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests NEEDS & MATERIALS as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat #dogme
9:18 pm harrisonmike: @fionamau Agreed. #eltchat
9:18 pm cerirhiannon: RT @fionamau: RT @harrisonmike: @bcnpaul1 Use the learner’s interests NEEDS & MATERIALS as a starting point for activities, resources, etc #eltchat #dogme
9:18 pm ColinTGraham: Where there is a single L1, I feel the ELT has to be learning it… and Ss need to be aware teacher is doing this… #eltchat
9:18 pm Brian_ThomasTCI: Free @TeachTCI webinar tonight on Supporting Strugling Readers! 6:30EST Sign up:http://bit.ly/hiSJ2e #eltchat
9:18 pm cioccas: RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:18 pm europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat
9:18 pm lydbury: @sandymillin @ShellTerrell Yes indeed. #eltchat
9:18 pm Fuertesun: @europeaantje yes get em out of tch knows all habit #eltchat
9:18 pm ShellTerrell: One of my favorite lessons by @sabridv Where she let her student just take over the teaching for the day! http://bit.ly/gOuNa7 #eltchat
9:18 pm cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat
9:19 pm vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:19 pm sandymillin: RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat
9:19 pm ShellTerrell: RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:19 pm mmgrinberg: Always praise the ss when you learn that somebody has used the language out of class. Sorry for a truism #eltchat
9:19 pm Fuertesun: I’m not a walking dictionary is a good one #eltchat
9:19 pm sandymillin: RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:19 pm Fuertesun: RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:19 pm Marisa_C: If you haven’t used Self-access boxes with extras try it for half an hour each week – Ss choose what they want to do #ELTchat
9:19 pm ShellTerrell: @vickyloras What a great idea to teach students! Multitasking too! #Eltchat
9:19 pm dofskid: a great resource for language studies is Strategies for success by H D Brown #ELTchat
9:19 pm Shaunwilden: RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:19 pm sandymillin: RT @Fuertesun: I’m not a walking dictionary is a good one #eltchat < or a computer 🙂 (though seem to have that reputation!)
9:19 pm mattledding: RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ofetn don´t give sts straight answer, will “answer” w other question: make ´em think #ELTchat
9:19 pm vladkaslniecko: @harrisonmike Night Mike! 🙂 #eltchat
9:19 pm Fuertesun: RT @Marisa_C: If you haven’t used Self-access boxes with extras try it for half an hour each week – Ss choose what they want to do #ELTchat
9:19 pm europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ” don´t ask me thinks you can look uo for yourself” & provide sources #ELTchat
9:19 pm lydbury: @Fuertesun 🙂 #eltchat
9:19 pm kyteacher: RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: Free @TeachTCI webinar tonight on Supporting Strugling Readers! 6:30EST Sign up: http://bit.ly/hiSJ2e #eltchat
9:19 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @vickyloras: I try to encourage adults that autonomous learning can be done while doing sth else,e.g.listening to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:20 pm mmgrinberg: If you are using coursebook, show them the sections with the transcript, the grammar and voc banks from the very beginning #eltchat
9:20 pm SueannaN: My students use the language out of class by default because they are in immersion classes #eltchat
9:20 pm ShellTerrell: Gr8 idea! RT @Marisa_C: If u haven’t used Self-access boxes w extras try it for half an hr each wk – Ss choose what they want to do #ELTchat
9:20 pm fredgarnett: @Marisa_C Marisa, thanks for linking to Beatles YouTube blog Now a dedicated post for #eltchatcalled Beatles BELTers; http://bit.ly/gM55BY
9:20 pm ShellTerrell: RT @mmgrinberg: If you are using coursebook, show them the sections with the transcript, the grammar and voc banks from the very beginning #eltchat
9:20 pm vickyloras: That way some of them who think learning outside class will take up time become more motivated,still learn on their own intitative #ELTChat
9:20 pm Fuertesun: @Marisa_C I saw atch with a self access table once fantastic #ELTchat
9:20 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ” don´t ask me thinks you can look uo for yourself” & provide sources #ELTchat
9:20 pm sandymillin: @fionamau Trying to change this 🙂 have to use coursebook but constantly looking for ways to adapt it 🙂 #eltchat
9:20 pm bcnpaul1: getting sts to plan the class for next week as homework is a nice one (as long as they do it) #eltchatif they don’t, make ’em suffer :)!!
9:20 pm ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @Rob_Learner: It’s good to give kids the basics, but lifelong learning is the ideal, not just pursuit of grades. #eltchat
9:20 pm ShellTerrell: RT @bcnpaul1: getting sts to plan the class for next week as homework is a nice one (as long as they do it) #eltchat if they don’t, make ’em suffer :)!!
9:20 pm DinaDobrou: RT @vickyloras: I encourage adults that autonomous learning be done while doing sth else.listning to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:20 pm fionamau: RT @bcnpaul1 @mmgrinberg: Give tools like spidergrams, guessing frm context, train dictionary use #eltchat > yes! tools to become autonomous
9:20 pm ColinTGraham: Re: content – with my adult Ss, they often wanted to discuss news – they could bring in articles in L1 but had to explain in Eng #eltchat
9:21 pm cerirhiannon: RT @DinaDobrou: RT @vickyloras: I encourage adults that autonomous learning be done while doing sth else.listning to podcasts while driving to work #ELTChat
9:21 pm marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat
9:21 pm ErenNesrin: More importantly a teacher has to believe in the learner autonomy and strategy training, if not,not much can be conveyed to the Ss #ELTchat
9:21 pm ShellTerrell: RT @ColinTGraham: Re: content – with my adult Ss, they often wanted to discuss news – they could bring in articles in L1 but had to explain in Eng #eltchat
9:21 pm ShellTerrell: RT @ErenNesrin: More importantly a teacher has to believe in the learner autonomy and strategy training, if not,not much can be conveyed to the Ss #ELTchat
9:21 pm andrefn18: RT @marekandrews: Developing learner autonomy, lecture by Leni Dam who’s done gr8 work for learner autonomy http://tinyurl.com/6kptuek #eltchat
9:21 pm sandymillin: RT @marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat
9:21 pm cioccas: @europeaantje < and ask them to find out answer & share in next lesson #ELTchat
9:21 pm europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat
9:21 pm mmgrinberg: If an ESP i2i student doesn’t do homework, ‘turn off’ for 20 mins so that she could do smth on her own #eltchat
9:21 pm ShellTerrell: @ErenNesrin Great point! I completely agree! Many teachers still in the “I’m in control” mode #eltchat
9:21 pm bcnpaul1: Agree> RT @marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat
9:21 pm cerirhiannon: RT @ColinTGraham: Re: content – my adults bring in articles in L1 had to explain in Eng #eltchat > nice I do this too
9:21 pm DinaDobrou: RT @bcnpaul1: getting sts plan the class for next week as h/w is nice (as long as they do it) #eltchatif they don’t, make ’em suffer 🙂
9:21 pm ShellTerrell: Gr8 to explore! RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat
9:22 pm vladkaslniecko: @marekandrews in class never do anything that u can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat —brilliant!
9:22 pm vickyloras: @ShellTerrell Thanks Shell!One of them even bought audiobooks to listen to while commuting and the improvement showed very soon #ELTChat
9:22 pm bcnpaul1: RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat
9:22 pm fionamau: RT @cerirhiannon: lost wifi but back again – doing a bit of lurking to catch up 🙁 #eltchat >> mine’s comin & goin too. Hard 2 catch up!
9:22 pm mmgrinberg: RT @marekandrews: Developing learner autonomy, lecture by Leni Dam who’s done gr8 work for learner autonomy http://tinyurl.com/6kptuek #eltchat
9:22 pm cerirhiannon: RT @vladkaslniecko: @marekandrews in class never do anything that u can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat —brilliant!
9:22 pm Marisa_C: RT @europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat >excellent
9:22 pm tarabenwell: I was very excited to see that the English learners on MyEC had created their own speaking group last week. #ELTChat 132 members already
9:22 pm Fuertesun: @Marisa_C woops a teacher #eltchat
9:22 pm ColinTGraham: Some students used machine translations, and spent a lot of time preparing, after a few weeks, most switched to English stories! #eltchat
9:22 pm ShellTerrell: Create an atmosphere of autonomy in the beginning-have Ss choose topics they want 2 study or where they want to begin in the bk #Eltchat
9:22 pm DinaDobrou: RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 to explore! RT @europeaantje: how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat> YES
9:23 pm tarabenwell: They are addressing problems on their own, such as how to improve sound quality. #ELTChat
9:23 pm fredgarnett: @Marisa_C Thanks, I am happy to edit and add activities to songs, etc if people comment on the blog #eltchat
9:23 pm dofskid: http://www.ebook3000.com/Strategies-for-Success–A-Practical-Guide-to-Learning-English_22666.html #ELTchat
9:23 pm Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell YES good but even adults can be so wishy washy #Eltchat
9:23 pm fionamau: RT @mmgrinberg: A box with extra materials that the ss can borrow / take. #eltchat >> even better if sts compiled/collected the materials
9:23 pm andrefn18: RT @marekandrews: in class never do anything that you can get students to do, the only way ss will become more responsible #eltchat
9:23 pm marekandrews: @ShellTerrell gr8 to get ss to explore what they can do with their mobile phones in+outside class to learn English #eltchat
9:23 pm SueannaN: RT @Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell YES good but even adults can be so wishy washy #eltchat
9:23 pm Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell Ia ot of shoulder shrugging here in Spain #Eltchat
9:24 pm EnglishOnlineMB: peer study groups-gr8 idea! @tarabenwell #ELTchat
9:24 pm vickyloras: RT @ShellTerrell Create atmosphere of autonomy in beginning-have Ss choose topics they want 2 study or where they want2begin in bk #Eltchat
9:24 pm Chrissy_Kelly: RT @ShellTerrell: One of my favorite lessons by @sabridv Where she let her student just take over the teaching for the day! http://bit.ly/gOuNa7 #eltchat
9:24 pm mmgrinberg: Learner autonomy has been an important topic with the French authors – and they’ve got quite a few self-access centers #eltchat
9:24 pm europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: recently have been recording sts: “listen to it at home & tell me what you think” #ELTchat
9:24 pm fionamau: RT @bcnpaul1: if sts r co-creating they r motivated & therefore more autonomous. also more aware of strengths & limitations #eltchat
9:24 pm tarabenwell: RT @DinaDobrou: RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 to explore! RT @europeaantje: how i promote L autonomy: ask my sts: why do you think we are doing this? #ELTchat> YES
9:24 pm hedram: RT @ShellTerrell: One of the most important goals of my role as a teacher is to provide students with the tools to be able to learn on their own #Eltchat
9:24 pm cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat
9:24 pm cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat
9:24 pm Fuertesun: RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat
9:24 pm europeaantje: RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat
9:24 pm DinaDobrou: Tell them to watch English speaking cartoons, series, shows online: http://wwitv.com/ #ELTchat
9:24 pm vladkaslniecko: i show them they can do some things using English instead of their lang…like reading horoscopes if that’s what they usually do.. #eltchat
9:25 pm ColinTGraham: Many students seem to feel frustrated by the gap between their listening & reading, particularly news. Focusing ?ns can help #eltchat
9:25 pm europeaantje: RT @cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat
9:25 pm sandymillin: @EnglishOnlineMB Used to do peer study at uni – forgot about that. Think I learnt most of my Spanish in those groups! #ELTchat
9:25 pm bcnpaul1: RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat > bringing stuff in is great
9:25 pm cerirhiannon: RT @cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat > encouraging diaries, journals, blogs great
9:25 pm Marisa_C: Great point – lost the tweet now – how the T has to show they are an autonomous learner too – being a good role model #ELTchat
9:25 pm ShellTerrell: @Fuertesun In my experience Ss at the beginning need encouragemt. They arent used to their Tchrs asking 4 their input #eltchat
9:25 pm Fuertesun: How many times have you heard it’s up to you your the tecaher! #eltchat
9:25 pm vickyloras: RT @europeaantje *thinking* how i promote L autonomy:recently been recording sts: “listen to it at home & tell me what you think” #ELTchat
9:25 pm sandymillin: @europeaantje Recorded students for first time today – they were reluctant, but hoping will overcome this when they c it’s useful #ELTchat
9:25 pm europeaantje: @Marisa_C @sandymillin tweet #ELTchat
9:25 pm Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell YES too many authoritarians out there! #eltchat
9:26 pm ISILBOY: Good article- The use of Web 2.0 tools to promote learner autonomy http://bit.ly/fI8UbP #eltchat
9:26 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Fuertesun: How many times have you heard it’s up to you your the tecaher! #eltchat >hven’t heard it so often but very often FELT it
9:26 pm ShellTerrell: What are some ways you promote autonomy with reluctant adult students not used to this teaching method? #eltchat
9:26 pm ColinTGraham: By focusing ?ns, I mean structures/directed tasks which support/scaffold & encourage greater independence. Ideally Ss generate ?ns #eltchat
9:26 pm Fuertesun: @bcnpaul1 you’re agh can’t spell or think! #eltchat
9:26 pm europeaantje: @sandymillin allow for that, esp. when listening. nobody likes listening to themselves 🙂 #ELTchat
9:26 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C Think that may have been me 😉 Often take in examples of my learning for them to see. Think they appreciate it #ELTchat
9:27 pm mmgrinberg: RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Fuertesun: How many times have you heard it’s up to you your the tecaher! #eltchat >hven’t heard it so often but very often FELT it
9:27 pm vickyloras: I recommend channels like MSNBC or Bloomberg for my bankers,they love them and watch them avidly,even on their mobiles #ELTChat
9:27 pm SueannaN: thanks Duncan. This TweetChat is excellent at weeding out everything else #eltchat
9:27 pm sandymillin: @europeaantje Told them about rerecording myself 1st time I did it when 15, as didn’t believe it was my voice! #ELTchat
9:27 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin Thanks Sandy – great point #ELTchat
9:27 pm fionamau: RT @vickyloras: I try 2 show adults that autonomous learning cn b done while doin sth else,e.g.TALKING TO SELF IN SHOWER role plays #ELTChat
9:27 pm janetbianchini: I like the idea of ss writing a diary in English outside of class -optional activity but it’s worked in the past with very keen ss #eltchat
9:27 pm sandymillin: @Fuertesun If I have a pound… #eltchat
9:27 pm tarabenwell: @sandymillin @europeaantje The learners on MyEC were reluctant at first too. Some of them are singing now! They started “MyEC Idol” #ELTChat
9:27 pm ShellTerrell: RT @janetbianchini: I like the idea of ss writing a diary in English outside of class -optional activity but it’s worked in the past with very keen ss #eltchat
9:27 pm Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell improve their metacog awareness cognition bout cognition? #eltchat
9:27 pm ColinTGraham: @ShellTerrell It depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat
9:27 pm mmgrinberg: They can keep an audio diary using their mobiles – good for ESP but also teens #eltchat
9:27 pm europeaantje: @tarabenwell RESULT! #ELTChat
9:27 pm ShellTerrell: @janetbianchini Great idea Janet! #eltchat
9:28 pm cerirhiannon: ss take it in turns to email summary to group after class -encourages them to come up with suggestions for next class #eltchat
9:28 pm vladkaslniecko: @lydbury MI – multiple intelligences 🙂 #eltchat
9:28 pm cerirhiannon: RT @mmgrinberg: They can keep an audio diary using their mobiles – good for ESP but also teens #eltchat > nice idea
9:28 pm cioccas: @europeaantje Have encouraged Ss to record themselves on mob phones for self-feedback #ELTchat
9:28 pm vickyloras: @ShellTerrell I tell them every moment in their day can be a learning moment&refer to my own experiences with German #ELTChat
9:28 pm lydbury: Must go – hugs to all. #eltchat
9:28 pm cerirhiannon: RT @vickyloras: @ShellTerrell I tell them every moment in their day can be a learning moment&refer to my own experiences with German #ELTChat
9:28 pm ShellTerrell: @vickyloras Me too! #Eltchat
9:28 pm marekandrews: @sandymillin gr8 sandy,got ss yesterday to record themselves on mobiles, write up transcript+find mistakes+see how 2 say sth better #eltchat
9:28 pm ShellTerrell: Gr8 pt! RT @ColinTGraham: depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat
9:28 pm Marisa_C: Unf not many of our refugee Ss can afford PCs so we have to rely on less techy stuff #ELTchat
9:29 pm cerirhiannon: RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 pt! RT @ColinTGraham: depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat
9:29 pm europeaantje: @cerirhiannon saw some nice egs of that on the blog. we need link! #eltchat
9:29 pm bcnpaul1: be nice to have other sts blogs that they are asked to comment on for h’wk in the hope they build relation with bloggers elsewhere #eltchat
9:29 pm mmgrinberg: Maybe… not to stay too long with one teacher. What do you think? #eltchat
9:29 pm Marisa_C: @lydbury Cheers and thanks for joining 🙂 #eltchat
9:29 pm sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat
9:29 pm ShellTerrell: @ColinTGraham You bring up a good point where we have to know our learners as well to guide them to their autonomy #Eltchat
9:29 pm ShellTerrell: RT @mmgrinberg: Maybe… not to stay too long with one teacher. What do you think? #eltchat
9:29 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 pt! RT @ColinTGraham: depends whether barriers to autonomy are cultural/confidence/lack of direction… each case is different! #eltchat
9:29 pm ShellTerrell: RT @sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat
9:29 pm tarabenwell: @mmgrinberg Great idea! I’ll share that with our audio speaking group.Most of them are using Vocaroo, so this would be easy. #ELTCHAT
9:29 pm ErenNesrin: Ss mark their own papers/presentations using a rubric,then compare grades, Ss & T explain rationale for the grades given #ELTchat
9:29 pm Shaunwilden: RT @sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchatShould they be corrected at all?
9:29 pm SueannaN: RT @Marisa_C: Unf not many of our refugee Ss can afford PCs so we have to rely on less techy stuff #eltchat
9:29 pm bcnpaul1: @Fuertesun it is – it’s making me drink my wine quicker! #eltchat
9:29 pm Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 blogging always a great idea if ur Ss can do it #eltchat
9:29 pm vickyloras: RT @ShellTerrell : @vickyloras Me too! #Eltchat >>Super!!! It works : )))
9:30 pm sandymillin: @Shaunwilden But also how do you give feedback on them? Do SS feel ‘why bother’? #eltchat
9:30 pm fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike
9:30 pm ShellTerrell: RT @fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike
9:30 pm Marisa_C: @sarah_SKB Like diaries but correct only with Student’s permission #eltchat
9:30 pm Fuertesun: @bcnpaul1 need a cuppa to cope with pace #eltchat
9:30 pm janetbianchini: RT @cioccas @europeaantje Have encouraged Ss to record themselves on mob phones for self-feedback #ELTchat – great idea for mlearning!
9:30 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 blogging always a great idea if ur Ss can do it #eltchat > true & a lot can’t or don’t really get into it.
9:30 pm ColinTGraham: I used to provide a list of URLs for news sites. I put a ‘review’ about level etc. for Ss who didn’t want to do their own searches #eltchat
9:30 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C Unf not many of our refugee Ss can afford PCs so we have to rely on less techy stuff #ELTchat
9:30 pm cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: saw some nice egs of that on the blog. we need link! #eltchat > here’s a link to post about emails http://bit.ly/cPhWZf
9:30 pm Fuertesun: RT @fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike
9:31 pm europeaantje: @janetbianchini don´t remind me i haven´t been o/t #mobseeta pls 🙂 #ELTchat
9:31 pm mattledding: @ShellTerrell with reluctant adults you have to find out why they are reluctant first. #eltchat
9:31 pm tarabenwell: @sandymillin @Shaunwilden I started using Vocaroo to give feedback too. It’s so easy and they love it. #ELTChat
9:31 pm Marisa_C: But some of our refugee Students do ask for copies of CD’s to listen at home – we do that #ELTchat
9:31 pm europeaantje: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: saw some nice egs of that on the blog. we need link! #eltchat> here’s a link to post about emails http://bit.ly/cPhWZf
9:31 pm ShellTerrell: RT @springrose12: create lots of opps 4 pair/group talk, also make sure that they use computers to create Power points to present #eltchat
9:31 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Marisa_C: But some of our refugee Students do ask for copies of CD’s to listen at home – we do that #ELTchat
9:31 pm marekandrews: great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LAhttp://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat
9:31 pm ColinTGraham: @ShellTerrell For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat
9:31 pm ShellTerrell: RT @marekandrews: great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LA http://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat
9:31 pm bcnpaul1: RT @europeaantje: @janetbianchini don´t remind me i haven´t been o/t #mobseeta pls 🙂 #ELTchat>me neither. feel very guilty
9:32 pm Fuertesun: RT @ColinTGraham: @ShellTerrell For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat
9:32 pm SueannaN: Yes we have a GR lending Library #eltchat
9:32 pm DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell Tell them: If you’re beginners & still need lessons that means they didn’t do sth right the 1sr time so shd change .#ELTchat
9:32 pm ShellTerrell: Luv this! RT @ColinTGraham: For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat
9:32 pm cioccas: RT @ColinTGraham: @ShellTerrell For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat
9:32 pm sandymillin: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Autonomous work & HW are different, but still need to acknowledge autonomous work to motivate SS
9:32 pm bcnpaul1: RT @ShellTerrell: Luv this! RT @ColinTGraham: For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat
9:32 pm DinaDobrou: RT @ShellTerrell: Luv this! RT @ColinTGraham: For autonomy, I always have “Follow me, I’m right behind you!” somewhere in the back of my mind! #Eltchat
9:32 pm Marisa_C: RT @marekandrews: great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LA http://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat
9:32 pm europeaantje: ok then: my 3 preferred recording tools: Voicethread, Audiboo, Fotobabble #ELTchat – Vocaroo choppy
9:32 pm janetbianchini: RT @sandymillin @Shaunwilden But also how do you give feedback on them? Do SS feel ‘why bother’? #eltchat – I leave correcting as optional
9:32 pm vickyloras: RT @marekandrews great blogpost acknowledging Holec, one of the main sources of inspiration for LA http://tinyurl.com/6kerkl4 #eltchat
9:32 pm Marisa_C: RT @europeaantje: ok then: my 3 preferred recording tools: Voicethread, Audiboo, Fotobabble #ELTchat – Vocaroo choppy
9:32 pm mmgrinberg: RT @fionamau: #eltchat Graded readers! I nearly forgot GRs! And setting up a GR bookclub. GRs have worked well for me w kids & adults alike
9:33 pm ShellTerrell: Gr8 advice! RT @mattledding: with reluctant adults you have to find out why they are reluctant first. #eltchat
9:33 pm ShellTerrell: RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell Tell them: If you’re beginners & still need lessons that means they didn’t do sth right the 1sr time so shd change .#ELTchat
9:33 pm DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: RT @europeaantje: ok then: my 3 preferred recording tools: Voicethread, Audiboo, Fotobabble #ELTchat – Vocaroo choppy
9:33 pm fionamau: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @cioccas: For adults: setting goals and keeping a diary #ELTchat > encouraging diaries, journals, blogs great >> agreed
9:33 pm cerirhiannon: RT @sandymillin: @Shaunwilden #eltchat need to acknowledge autonomous work > yes, crediting/valuing work which isn’t h/wk v imp
9:33 pm shaznosel: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat
9:33 pm ColinTGraham: If Ss are to be truly autonomous, then issues of class/group needs vs individual needs also have to be considered… #Eltchat
9:33 pm sarah_SKB: @sandymillin how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat
9:33 pm sarah_SKB: @sandymillin how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat
9:33 pm ShellTerrell: @DinaDobrou Great to point out that it will help them learn better! Ties into motivation #Eltchat
9:34 pm tarabenwell: @europeaantje I’m finding Vocaroo a bit choppy too, but so easy. Some of my learners have great sound quality on it. Wonder why? #ELTChat
9:34 pm Shaunwilden: @janetbianchini @sandymillin I agree, I think the sts has to come to you with it #eltchat
9:34 pm bcnpaul1: YES > RT @ShellTerrell: @DinaDobrou Great to point out that it will help them learn better! Ties into motivation #Eltchat
9:34 pm sandymillin: @janetbianchini @Shaunwilden Don’t necessarily mean correcting bt shud u wait for SS to say “i did this”/ask them what done / … #eltchat
9:34 pm janetbianchini: #ELTchat Getting ss to perform real-life tasks (in UK) eg market day in Oxford ss would go out to do teachers’ shopping – they loved it!
9:34 pm stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat
9:34 pm vickyloras: #ELTChat going va-va-voom tonight – love the great ideas that keep on coming!!!
9:34 pm ShellTerrell: RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat
9:34 pm Marisa_C: @shaznosel Hi Shaz good to see you join in! #ELTchat
9:34 pm ShellTerrell: @stiiiv Very important reminder! Thanks! #eltchat
9:34 pm ShellTerrell: RT @janetbianchini: #ELTchat Getting ss to perform real-life tasks (in UK) eg market day in Oxford ss would go out to do teachers’ shopping – they loved it!
9:34 pm ColinTGraham: @sarah_SKB Praise independence or originality of approach… even if it is not always successful. #eltchat
9:34 pm Marisa_C: RT @vickyloras: #ELTChat going va-va-voom tonight – love the great ideas that keep on coming!!! > Blazing with ideas! 🙂
9:35 pm Fuertesun: RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat
9:35 pm vladkaslniecko: @Shaunwilden @sandymillin i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat
9:35 pm ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @sarah_SKB: how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat
9:35 pm cioccas: Tip from ex-student: Encourage Ss to make friends to English with – native sp or other learner #eltchat
9:35 pm cerirhiannon: RT @sarah_SKB: @sandymillin how 2acknowledge autonomous work? > start by talking abt it in class, set up a log – written or oral #eltchat
9:35 pm bcnpaul1: RT @cioccas: Tip from ex-student: Encourage Ss to make friends to English with – native sp or other learner #eltchat
9:35 pm bcnpaul1: RT @vladkaslniecko: @Shaunwilden @sandymillin i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat
9:35 pm marekandrews: RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat
9:35 pm Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat – sorry I DM-ed this to Shelly by mistake 😀
9:35 pm europeaantje: just remembered from my interpreter training: we were recorded at beginning of year, then listened a/t end: remarkable improvement #ELTchat
9:36 pm elilesser: RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: Free @TeachTCI webinar tonight on Supporting Strugling Readers! 6:30EST Sign up: http://bit.ly/hiSJ2e #eltchat
9:36 pm fionamau: #eltchat I used to teach army regiments.Very anti-learner centred, used to hierarchies. So set ‘thinking’ for homework & it really worked
9:36 pm shaznosel: RT @ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @sarah_SKB: how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat
9:36 pm Shaunwilden: RT @vladkaslniecko: i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat gd point
9:36 pm sandymillin: @europeaantje Often think about doing that with students, but never at start of course (always nr end when I remember!) #ELTchat
9:36 pm europeaantje: @tarabenwell tried it again today even: same result: choppy LOL #ELTChat
9:36 pm VGoodyear: RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:37 pm europeaantje: @sandymillin true: would be a bit offputting in the first class LOL #ELTchat
9:37 pm janetbianchini: @sandymillin I sometimes check they are actually doing the writing – if they want they can show me (they often do) #eltchat
9:37 pm fionamau: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @mmgrinberg: They can keep an audio diary using their mobiles – good for ESP but also teens #eltchat > nice idea
9:37 pm ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat
9:37 pm ColinTGraham: @Marisa_C I used to bring graded readers. Ss could borrow as/when they wanted. Occasionally they’d do a mini-review, but not reqd #ELTchat
9:37 pm mattledding: RT @ShellTerrell: Once teachers begin seeing themselves as “facilitators” vs “having all the answers” it creates environmt for Ss to take ownership #eltchat
9:37 pm bcnpaul1: @europeaantje thx for the RT earlier btw mr.guido #eltchat I plan to put a comment on yr voicethread as soon as I figure out how 🙂
9:37 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @vladkaslniecko: i think it depends on the way you present it to ur stds…more as a search, project, task than hmwork #eltchat gd point
9:38 pm mmgrinberg: RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat
9:38 pm SueannaN: sorrt everyone. Have to go~just come in from a late meeting #eltchat
9:38 pm sandymillin: @cerirhiannon #eltchat Nice idea to give extra credit for autonom learning habits. Problem w/ adults “we don’t have time” (multitask I knw!)
9:38 pm cioccas: Am at a staff devt day & sharing ideas from & with teaching colleagues & ex-students #eltchat
9:38 pm Fuertesun: @SueAnnan bye #eltchat
9:38 pm Marisa_C: @ColinTGraham It really works – I don’t insist on reviews either – turns it into jomework #ELTchat
9:38 pm ShellTerrell: RT @cerirhiannon: encourage ss to be as hands on as poss – at board, at keyboard, making decisions, bringing materials class, leading not following #eltchat
9:38 pm ISILBOY: checking out sts’ works- RT @ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @sarah_SKB: how to acknowledge autonomous work? #eltchat
9:38 pm cerirhiannon: RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: bring a book box to class and they choose a reader to take home #ELTchat >basic but v v useful
9:38 pm fionamau: RT @sarah_SKB: Nice idea about diaries/audio diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat > personally I don’t correct diaries,I respond
9:38 pm europeaantje: *thinking* how i promote L autonomy: use correction code to “correct” writing & ask sts to hand in again #ELTchat
9:39 pm bcnpaul1: seems to have slowed down. has everyone gone for half-time wine top-ups or is it just me? #eltchat
9:39 pm europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 LOL you need to watch the slideshow for sts first LOL #eltchat
9:39 pm ColinTGraham: @Marisa_C And if you go to lots of conferences you can often get free samples and build up quite a library! 😉 #ELTchat
9:39 pm ShellTerrell: @bcnpaul1 I think it’s you because this chat is fast & furious on my end #eltchat
9:39 pm Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon we have to go basic – no PCs available to Ss #ELTchat
9:39 pm stiiiv: Adrian Holliday wld argue autonomy is a universal. All students have it… It’s the institution/educ system that may restrict them #eltchat
9:39 pm DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C But they shd read it for pleasure. Not as h/w, otherwise they might feel we’re plying them with more work. #ELTchat
9:39 pm janetbianchini: @SueAnnan Bye Sue #ELTchat
9:39 pm ShellTerrell: @ColinTGraham @Marisa_C Hilarious! But I also get a lot of coursebks this way as well 😉 #eltchat
9:39 pm bcnpaul1: @europeaantje I think you’re right 🙂 #eltchat
9:39 pm sandymillin: @DinaDobrou Agreed #ELTchat
9:39 pm Marisa_C: @ColinTGraham That’s how I built mine – publishers send me free samples #ELTchat
9:40 pm fionamau: RT @sarah_SKB: diaries – how much do you correct them? #eltchat if u correct, it’s like correcting an email frm a friend who at least tries
9:40 pm tarabenwell: @europeaantje It has something to do with ur microphone settings. Student leader sounds perfectly clear http://tinyurl.com/4apfavh #ELTCHat
9:40 pm ColinTGraham: A lot of the graded reader publishers also have audio versions of the books which can be useful for reinforcing listening skills #Eltchat
9:40 pm ShellTerrell: How do you check with Ss to make sure they are being autonomous at home about their learning? #Eltchat
9:40 pm marekandrews: ask ss how they can best use classroom 2 learn English,from furniture 2 who 2 work with,how 2 work+what 2 work on+why #eltchat
9:40 pm mmgrinberg: @Marisa_C @cerirhiannon Then maybe newspapers and bulletin boards, stuff on the walls? #eltchat
9:40 pm DinaDobrou: RT @ShellTerrell: How do you check with Ss to make sure they are being autonomous at home about their learning? #Eltchat
9:40 pm cerirhiannon: RT @ColinTGraham: A lot of the graded reader publishers also have audio versions of the books #Eltchat > some also available online
9:40 pm ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook . So far, it has worked well! http://bit.ly/eFJGC7 #eltchat
9:41 pm bcnpaul1: @europeaantje wd be good but don’t want you to miss #eltchat
9:41 pm mattledding: Anyone tried getting students to collectively MAKE a chatbot. (ie: http://pandorabots.com) THEY teach English to a BOT. #ELTchat
9:41 pm Fuertesun: RT @ShellTerrell: How do you check with Ss to make sure they are being autonomous at home about their learning? #Eltchat
9:41 pm europeaantje: RT @marekandrews: ask ss how they can best use classroom 2 learn English,from furniture 2 who 2 work with,how 2 work+what 2 work on+why #eltchat
9:41 pm sandymillin: #eltchat I do a lesson with podcasts. Ask SS to tell me favourite subjects, I recommend podcast w/ questions, then they report back…
9:41 pm vickyloras: @bcnpaul1 I went for a tea top-up LOL #ELTChat
9:41 pm ShellTerrell: RT @VGoodyear: I firmly believe & encourage facilitating learning & independant learning rather than ‘do as I do’ approaches #eltchat
9:41 pm europeaantje: @marekandrews including the people in it! #eltchat
9:41 pm Marisa_C: @mmgrinberg Absolutely! Stuff on walls for peripheral learning – they do feel curious abt stuff you post #eltchat
9:41 pm sandymillin: #eltchat …then they recommend podcasts to each other
9:41 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon we have to go basic – no PCs available to Ss #ELTchat > me too working with v similar set up – no tech in class
9:41 pm Fuertesun: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat …then they recommend podcasts to each other
9:41 pm ColinTGraham: ELT podcasts, general podcasts and videocasts are often under utilized too. Advanced Ss used to enjoy Harvard Busi School videos #Eltchat
9:41 pm janetbianchini: You can buy lots cheap 2nd hand books in Uk (from Charity shops) to stock up a really good collection of books for a school library #eltchat
9:42 pm mmgrinberg: Diaries: in some cases the idea is even not even to read them, let alone correct #eltchat
9:42 pm tarabenwell: @europeaantje Yes. That works well. I once had writing sts create their own correction code. Then I used it and they corrected. #ELTChat
9:42 pm harrisonmike: RT @mmgrinberg: Diaries: in some cases the idea is even not even to read them, let alone correct #eltchat
9:42 pm Fuertesun: @janetbianchini yes here too… good idea #eltchat
9:42 pm BethCagnol: Jumping in here with 20mn to go! #ELTCHAT
9:42 pm ShellTerrell: RT @mmgrinberg: Diaries: in some cases the idea is even not even to read them, let alone correct #eltchat
9:42 pm stiiiv: RT @ShellTerrell: Is there a poss. paradox in ‘checking’ on Ss ‘ exercise of autonomy?! 🙂 #Eltchat
9:42 pm sandymillin: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon we have to go basic – no PCs available to Ss #ELTchat > me too – no tech in class <me3
9:42 pm bcnpaul1: RT @janetbianchini: You can buy lots cheap 2nd hand books in Uk to stock up a really good collection of books for a school library #eltchat
9:42 pm andrefn18: RT @stiiiv: Important 2 rememb tht ‘autonomy’ doesn’t nec. mean ‘alone’. It’s self-directed lng, but this might usefully involve interdependnce #eltchat
9:42 pm fionamau: @cerirhiannon #eltchat I don’t write correctns on diaries, bt I note them elsewhere & deal w probs in class. No names, just ‘I’ve noticed’
9:42 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin We have tech in class no problem – Ss have no tech at home #ELTchat
9:43 pm BethCagnol: One university where I work in Paris has made all the language learning autonomous. #ELTCHAT We teachers are only moderators.
9:43 pm ISILBOY: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat
9:43 pm Fuertesun: RT @BethCagnol: One university where I work in Paris has made all the language learning autonomous. #ELTCHAT We teachers are only moderators.
9:43 pm ColinTGraham: @cerirhiannon Yes, that’s when teacher can provide an online list of the URLs for each reader, so interested Ss can find them #Eltchat
9:43 pm europeaantje: @tarabenwell good idea. let the students tdo the work! haha #ELTChat
9:43 pm bcnpaul1: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat>Agree! it should be part of syllabus
9:43 pm cerirhiannon: RT @fionamau: @cerirhiannon #eltchat don’t write correctns on diaries, note them elsewhere & deal w probs in class. No names … > yes
9:43 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C Or they have some tech, but e.g. no microphone. Feel left out if I try voicethread / vocaroo etc #ELTchat
9:43 pm ShellTerrell: @stiiiv Yes! But we don’t have to “grade” just maybe perhaps them discussing how they studied English outside of class #eltchat
9:43 pm tarabenwell: @mmgrinberg I ask them to use the tag #corrections if they want corrections on blog post. Then I point out 1 error. They try to fix #ELTChat
9:43 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @BethCagnol: One university where I work in Paris has made all the language learning autonomous. #ELTCHAT We teachers are only moderators.
9:43 pm Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap
9:44 pm Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchatcompletely agree
9:44 pm cioccas: RT @ISILBOY: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat
9:44 pm sandymillin: RT @ShellTerrell: @stiiiv Yes! But we don’t have to “grade” just maybe perhaps them discussing how they studied English outside of class #eltchat
9:44 pm cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: @tarabenwell good idea. let the students tdo the work! haha #ELTChat > always get the SS to do the work 😉
9:44 pm mmgrinberg: I watch different kind of movies / tv shows and listen to different kinds of radio prgms on my laptop right before the lesson #eltchat
9:44 pm vickyloras: @ShellTerrell I encourage them to keep track of whet they rare doing in a pdiary,on their computer or mobile devoce #ELTChat
9:44 pm ErenNesrin: @europeaantje great! +Ss write letter 2themselves,T collects envelopes,T sends them via post,Ss check progress #ELTchat
9:44 pm ShellTerrell: RT @shaznosel: ask them to review film/book & share w class. Take time to discuss when they use Eng out of the class…tourists? #eltchat
9:44 pm Fuertesun: RT @ShellTerrell: @stiiiv Yes! But we don’t have to “grade” just maybe perhaps them discussing how they studied English outside of class #eltchat
9:44 pm marekandrews: @bethcagnol but we teachers are crucially motivators in helping ss to explore learning English more independently #eltchat
9:44 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap > you think? they cost a fortune brand new
9:44 pm europeaantje: RT @bcnpaul1: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat >Agree! it should be part of syllabus
9:44 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C Depends on your salary 😉 #eltchat
9:44 pm ShellTerrell: RT @vickyloras: I encourage them to keep track of whet they rare doing in a pdiary,on their computer or mobile devoce #ELTChat
9:44 pm mmgrinberg: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree
9:44 pm mmgrinberg: RT @tarabenwell: @mmgrinberg I ask them to use the tag #corrections if they want corrections on blog post. Then I point out 1 error. They try to fix #ELTChat
9:45 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin you shouldn’t have to buy them yourself – in past we used to ask parents to pay for one reader each #eltchat
9:45 pm vickyloras: @ShellTerrell Dear Lord,what did I just write??? LOL #ELTChat Here we go again
9:45 pm fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap >> good Users Guide & Bookclub stuff at Macmillan graded readers web
9:45 pm ColinTGraham: @IsilBoy Particularly levels of attention: listen for detail, gist, inference… scan, skim, summarize, etc. Practice in L1 first! #eltchat
9:45 pm cerirhiannon: RT @fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 #eltchat class readers generally really cheap >> good Users Guide & Bookclub stuff at Macmillan graded readers web
9:45 pm europeaantje: @ErenNesrin no correction? no rewriting? only building in a time lapse? #ELTchat
9:45 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C Can be hard enough to get them to pay for course 😉 and argue about coursebook cost too. Readers are luxury! #eltchat
9:45 pm BethCagnol: @marekandrews True. We moderators try to encourage the students. The situation at this one uni is very specific, and interesting. #ELTCHAT
9:45 pm Fuertesun: RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin you shouldn’t have to buy them yourself – in past we used to ask parents to pay for one reader each #eltchat ok
9:45 pm marekandrews: @IsilBoy +not just strategies but to help ss think about the role of English in their lives both personal+professional #eltchat
9:45 pm vickyloras: @ShellTerrell I encourage them to keep track of what they are doing in a diary,on their computer or mobile device #ELTChat
9:45 pm Marisa_C: by paying for one reader the shool got a great collection for a lending library #ELTchat
9:45 pm ShellTerrell: RT @marekandrews: gr8 to get ss to explore what they can do with their mobile phones in+outside class to learn English #eltchat
9:45 pm cerirhiannon: RT @marekandrews: @IsilBoy +not just strategies but to help ss think about the role of English in their lives both personal+professional #eltchat
9:46 pm tarabenwell: @sandymillin @Marisa_C Last year I encouraged all of my sts to get a microphone. It can make such a huge difference to self study. #ELTChat
9:46 pm bcnpaul1: @sandymillin sts ditch the coursebook and get a reader #eltchat
9:46 pm europeaantje: @cerirhiannon always 🙂 #ELTChat
9:46 pm BethCagnol: @marekandrews Autonomous learning is mandatory there. No classes. Teachers R told not 2 correct the students work. Only moderate. #ELTCHAT
9:46 pm sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 Tell that to my boss 😉 #eltchat
9:46 pm ISILBOY: @bcnpaul1 @cioccas @Shaunwilden @ColinTGraham 2 improve my sts’ vocab, I taught them cognitive strategies first which helped a lot #eltchat
9:46 pm ShellTerrell: Mobile learning does encourage learner autonomy especially when it connects to learning by interacting w/ world around them #eltchat
9:46 pm bcnpaul1: @sandymillin give me his email ! 🙂 #eltchat
9:46 pm BethCagnol: @vickyloras Wow! You read my mind. This afternoon I was considering asking my students to do that. #ELTCHAT
9:46 pm ShellTerrell: RT @stiiiv: Adrian Holliday wld argue autonomy is a universal. All students have it… It’s the institution/educ system that may restrict them #eltchat
9:46 pm europeaantje: @ShellTerrell speaking Italian? #ELTChat
9:47 pm cioccas: #ELTchat Someone mentioned film earlier – I also encourage reading for higher levels & share my own books
9:47 pm cerirhiannon: RT @cioccas: #ELTchat Someone mentioned film earlier – I also encourage reading for higher levels & share my own books > me too
9:47 pm vickyloras: RT @Marisa_C by paying for one reader the school got a great collection for a lending library #ELTchat
9:47 pm mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:47 pm Fuertesun: @IsilBoy yes strats v importnt #eltchat
9:47 pm europeaantje: RT @europeaantje: @ShellTerrell speaking Italian? #ELTChat @vickyloras #ELTChat
9:47 pm Marisa_C: @ShellTerrell Agree – u remember all our Ss have mobile phones – Sebohan tried using in a lesson #eltchat
9:47 pm ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:47 pm mattledding: Neat thing with chatbot, is that ss enter question/response – tiny chunks, easy set up on a google form, finish w/ cool product. #eltchat
9:47 pm bcnpaul1: RT @IsilBoy: 2 improve my sts’ vocab, I taught them cognitive strategies first which helped a lot #eltchat > great idea
9:48 pm BethCagnol: I’m amazed to see that autonomous learning can be a selling point for language schools. Include it in the learning package. #ELTCHAT
9:48 pm vickyloras: @bethcagnol : )))) Great minds,eh? Ha ha #ELTChat
9:48 pm ShellTerrell: @Marisa_C Yes you know it was one of my fav moments of the course! 🙂 #Eltchat
9:48 pm ShellTerrell: RT @BethCagnol: I’m amazed to see that autonomous learning can be a selling point for language schools. Include it in the learning package. #ELTCHAT
9:48 pm BethCagnol: RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:48 pm janetbianchini: @ShellTerrell Mobile learning does encourage learner autonomy espec when connects 2 learning by interacting w/ world around them #eltchat
9:48 pm sandymillin: @cioccas Me too – I have lots of books from #bookcrossing which I want to pass on – great for learners 🙂 #ELTchat
9:48 pm cioccas: RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:48 pm tarabenwell: If you have any suggestions for mobile learning apps for learning English, please share here:http://www.facebook.com/EnglishApp #ELTChat
9:48 pm mattledding: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree
9:48 pm ShellTerrell: RT @tarabenwell: If you have any suggestions for mobile learning apps for learning English, please share here: http://www.facebook.com/EnglishApp #ELTChat
9:49 pm Marisa_C: @bethcagnol It is for us too – we sell autonomy check it herehttp://www.celt.edu.gr/English_as_a_Foreign_Language.htm #ELTCHAT
9:49 pm tarabenwell: RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:49 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree
9:49 pm bcnpaul1: RT @tarabenwell: If u have any ideas for mobile learning apps for learning English, share here:http://on.fb.me/eodaY3 #ELTChat
9:49 pm BethCagnol: RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook . So far, it has worked well! http://bit.ly/eFJGC7 #eltchat
9:49 pm russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat
9:49 pm Marisa_C: @ShellTerrell I know!!! It’s a pity she didn’t get them to SEND the sms’s #Eltchat
9:49 pm BethCagnol: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat
9:49 pm DinaDobrou: RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:49 pm Marisa_C: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat
9:50 pm europeaantje: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat | works beautifully on desktop too
9:50 pm russell1955: RT @Marisa_C: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat
9:50 pm Marisa_C: RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook . So far,worked well! http://bit.ly/eFJGC7 #eltchat
9:50 pm ShellTerrell: To encourage autonomy I give Ss choices each wk on our wiki of ways to further explore the subj then encourage they share in class #Eltchat
9:50 pm ErenNesrin: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @IsilBoy: To promote learner autonomy, we must teach learning strategies explicitly #eltchat completely agree
9:50 pm ShellTerrell: RT @Marisa_C: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat
9:50 pm ColinTGraham: @IsilBoy Lack of vocabulary is often the major stumbling block… I got beginning level Ss to make a personal picture dictionary #eltchat
9:50 pm mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? They seem to be the key to everything #eltchat
9:50 pm BethCagnol: @Marisa_C That’s great! Thanks! Will definitely compare notes. #ELTCHAT
9:50 pm ISILBOY: @bcnpaul1 @bethcagnol @Marisa_C they made movies w/ Dvolver to tell about their favourite cognitive strategies http://bit.ly/f97nPB #eltchat
9:50 pm Fuertesun: RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? They seem to be the key to everything #eltchat
9:51 pm cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: Autonomy can start in class but its ultimate goal is out of class learner independence – methinks #ELTchat – YES!
9:51 pm cerirhiannon: if autonomy = learning on your own we need to help ss acquire tools for noticing how languages work – build it into all classes #eltchat
9:51 pm mattledding: @tarabenwell voice search (in English) is great on mobile phones… android is pretty accurate in the latest versions. #eltchat
9:51 pm vickyloras: RT @russell1955 Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat
9:51 pm BethCagnol: @ShellTerrell Can you give us the link, Shelly? Or is it a members only thing? #ELTCHAT
9:51 pm Fuertesun: RT @cerirhiannon: if autonomy = learning on your own we need to help ss acquire tools for noticing how languages work – build it into all classes #eltchat
9:51 pm ColinTGraham: @IsilBoy Cut out a page from a magazine or download a picture. Label ten+ items, then on reverse write 3 sentences using words… #eltchat
9:51 pm mmgrinberg: Gr8 tip ?@BethCagnol: RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook” #eltchat
9:51 pm fionamau: RT @sandymillin: @cioccas I have books from #bookcrossing which I want 2 pass on – gr8 fr learners #ELTchat HOWBOUT BOOKCROSSING IN CLASS?
9:51 pm cerirhiannon: RT @mmgrinberg: Gr8 tip ?@BethCagnol: RT @ISILBOY: I encourage my sts to use google docs as their on-line vocabulary notebook”#eltchat >nice
9:51 pm bcnpaul1: RT @mmgrinberg: Shll we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for another chat? they seem 2 be the key to everything #eltchat
9:51 pm Shaunwilden: RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? – Its gd topic for a #eltchat
9:51 pm europeaantje: RT @cerirhiannon: if autonomy = learning on your own we need to help ss acquire tools for noticing how languages work – build it into all classes #eltchat
9:51 pm ShellTerrell: @bethcagnol Here’s the link to my adult wiki but it needs maintenance http://bit.ly/d1RhoD #eltchat
9:52 pm tarabenwell: @Marisa_C @russell1955 Thanks for Audioboo tip. Just shared it with our Audio Group. Looking for Vocaroo alternatives. #ELTChat is awesome
9:52 pm Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat
9:52 pm europeaantje: @cerirhiannon tools, strategies, resources… #eltchat
9:52 pm sandymillin: @fionamau Have done it a couple of times – even had 1 SS join #bookcrossing #ELTchat
9:52 pm ErenNesrin: RT @mmgrinberg: Encourage them to teach what they learn to their family, friends #eltchat
9:52 pm BethCagnol: @cerirhiannon I think we also need to show students how they can go out into the world and learn (w/o us). #ELTCHAT
9:52 pm sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat
9:52 pm marekandrews: Great Learner Autonomy event at Brighton IATEFL April 15th http://brighton2011.wordpress.com/pce/#eltchat
9:52 pm cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: @cerirhiannon tools, strategies, resources… #eltchat > yup
9:52 pm cioccas: #ELTchat Our public libraries here have terrific resources for ELL so we encourage them to go there – take them on excursions
9:52 pm janetbianchini: @IsilBoy #ELTchat What a great idea to get your ss to make Dvolver movies – they are great fun!
9:52 pm cerirhiannon: RT @bethcagnol: @cerirhiannon I think we also need to show students how they can go out into the world and learn (w/o us). #ELTCHAT>totally
9:52 pm BethCagnol: @ShellTerrell Thanks sweety pie. #ELTCHAT
9:52 pm russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat
9:53 pm ISILBOY: @ColinTGraham Good idea! You can also use google docs and edit their page whenever you want and encourage peer correction #eltchat
9:53 pm Marisa_C: RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat
9:53 pm DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat
9:53 pm mmgrinberg: Create online / Moodle tasks that they can revisit weeks later and encourage them to do so #eltchat
9:53 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat
9:53 pm VGoodyear: sorry what is #eltchat & the current topic?
9:53 pm tarabenwell: @ISILBOY Wow! Another great idea! Google Docs for Vocab notebook. I used to suggest small address books because alphabetized. #ELTChat
9:53 pm ISILBOY: @janetbianchini Thank you Janet! They were very creative and had fun! #eltchat
9:53 pm europeaantje: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @europeaantje: @cerirhiannon tools, strategies, resources… #eltchat > yup | love that Welsh way of writing “yup” 🙂
9:53 pm fionamau: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more abt learning strategies or is it a topic for yet another chat? >gd topic for a #eltchat
9:53 pm sandymillin: @VGoodyear Encouraging learner autonomy – only 5 minutes to go though #eltchat
9:54 pm Marisa_C: Our Business English Ss love uploading presentation in their wiki and using English Central for pron work #ELTchat
9:54 pm fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon It all seems to point back to learner training – doesn’t it #eltchat
9:54 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @mmgrinberg: Shall we talk more about learning strategies i – Its gd topic for a #eltchat > sounds like it shd be
9:54 pm BethCagnol: I “joke” around with colleagues saying that I hope to be unemployed in 20 years (re: learner autonomy). #ELTCHAT
9:54 pm kyraocity: RT @colintgraham: How do you handle students who don’t want 2b autonomous? #ELTchat <– Find out what matters to her in life & connect 2that
9:54 pm cerirhiannon: RT @kyraocity: RT @colintgraham: How do you handle students who don’t want 2b autonomous? #ELTchat <– Find out what matters to her in life & connect 2that
9:54 pm stiiiv: Easy 2 think about auton as end point, but it’s clearly the journey. Lnr train’g can’t be tokenistic or 1-off. needs 2 B embedded #eltchat
9:54 pm BethCagnol: @VGoodyear Ways to develop learner autonomy ? tips for learning outside class time. #ELTCHAT
9:54 pm andrefn18: RT @russell1955: Audio boo is a great App for getting recordings on mobile #eltchat
9:54 pm fionamau: RT @sandymillin: @fionamau Have done it a couple of times – even had 1 SS join #bookcrossing#ELTchat >> Hmm. U’ve given me an idea 🙂 Thnx
9:54 pm andrefn18: RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat
9:55 pm sandymillin: RT @bcnpaul1: @mbogey: Instant mLearning idea! Challenge ss 2 switch phone lang 2 Eng for 1 wk (or 24hrs) #mobseeta #eltchat
9:55 pm bcnpaul1: RT @mbogey: Instant mLearning idea! Challenge yr ss to switch phone language to Eng for 1 wk (or 24hrs) #eltchat #mobseeta
9:55 pm Fuertesun: @kyraocity slowly #ELTchat
9:55 pm VGoodyear: @sandymillin is this a chat every week #eltchat
9:55 pm vickyloras: RT @fionamau RT @vickyloras: I try 2 show adults auton. learning cn b done while doin sth,e.g.TALKING TO SELF IN SHOWER role plays #ELTChat
9:55 pm DinaDobrou: @bcnpaul1 Great idea! #ELTchat
9:55 pm sandymillin: @VGoodyear Twice on a Wednesday 12 GMT and 9pm GMT #eltchat
9:55 pm russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat
9:55 pm ColinTGraham: @IsilBoy Using Diigo bookmarks and the highlight/comment features would also work as a high-tech version of cutting up magazines! #eltchat
9:55 pm BethCagnol: @kyraocity @colintgraham When autonomy is “forced” it ain’t so easy. Again I work in one place where the ss don’t have a choice. #ELTCHAT
9:55 pm cerirhiannon: RT @russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat
9:56 pm ISILBOY: @tarabenwell Thanks Tara! Instead of google notebook, google docs is much better 🙂 #eltchat
9:56 pm marekandrews: When the best leader’s work is done the people say, ‘We did it ourselves!’ Lao-tsu. #eltchat
9:56 pm Marisa_C: RT @tarabenwell: @ISILBOY Wow! Another great idea! Google Docs for Vocab notebook. . #ELTChat
9:56 pm vickyloras: @Fuertesun Sorry just saw yr tweet-yes,it can be difficult at times.I insist a lot in my own way ha ha!!! #ELTChat
9:56 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat
9:56 pm mmgrinberg: I often say (and make it sound like slip) smth like: it will be still helpful when I won’t be teaching u anymore #eltchat
9:56 pm BethCagnol: RT @russell1955: I teach the students to use iTunes and search for English podcasts as there are so many. I show them I do same to learn French #eltchat
9:56 pm VGoodyear: @bethcagnol great thanks- very interesting conversations I have stummbled into #eltchat
9:56 pm janetbianchini: @VGoodyear #ELTCHAT Hi – yes it’s on every Wednesday with 2 different topics, one in afternoon one in evening
9:56 pm tarabenwell: @russell1955 I often quote that tutorial of yours “You don’t need an iPod!” #ELTChat
9:56 pm mattledding: On learner autonomy, has anyone mentioned project gutenburg? Heaps of free ebooks.http://www.gutenberg.org #eltchat
9:56 pm fionamau: RT @tarabenwell: @ISILBOY Wow! Another gr8 idea! Google Docs for Vocab notebk.I used 2 suggest small address books cz alphabetized. #ELTChat
9:56 pm Marisa_C: @tarabenwell #ELTChat we use small address books for our Ss – Ts tend to buy them for them & have learner trainng lessons #ELTchat
9:56 pm cerirhiannon: RT @mattledding: On learner autonomy, has anyone mentioned project gutenburg? Heaps of free ebooks. http://bit.ly/9KnP4F #eltchat>gd tip
9:56 pm ISILBOY: Gr8! RT @ColinTGraham: Using Diigo bookmarks and the highlight/comment features & a high-tech version of cutting up magazines! #eltchat
9:57 pm Fuertesun: @vickyloras it’s fast tnite #ELTChat
9:57 pm lydbury: @bethcagnol Hey – you retiring at 41? 🙂 #ELTCHAT
9:57 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C What do they use the address books for? #ELTChat
9:57 pm VGoodyear: @sandymillin great thanks great discussions #eltchat
9:57 pm mmgrinberg: @russell1955 iTunes is a gr8 idea #eltchat
9:57 pm vladkaslniecko: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @mattledding: On learner autonomy, has anyone mentioned project gutenburg? Heaps of free ebooks. http://bit.ly/9KnP4F #eltchat>gd tip
9:57 pm WarwickLinguist: Exactly you don’t need iPod to use iTunes. People think you do # #eltchat
9:57 pm sandymillin: RT @WarwickLinguist: Exactly you don’t need iPod to use iTunes. People think you do # #eltchat
9:58 pm ColinTGraham: @bethcagnol Maybe there are some opportunities where limited choices can be made available. Not all situations are the same though #ELTCHAT
9:58 pm Marisa_C: @sandymillin they make topic pages for vocab & then make word clouds or spidergrams or pics to label on same topic #ELTChat
9:58 pm EwelinaGonera: RT @russell1955: some free books on http://bit.ly/7VlZnZ with audio recordings I love this site #eltchat
9:58 pm sandymillin: @WarwickLinguist Or to listen to podcasts #eltchat
9:58 pm sandymillin: @Marisa_C Nice idea #ELTChat
9:58 pm shaznosel: RT @ShellTerrell: RT @marekandrews: gr8 to get ss to explore what they can do with their mobile phones in+outside class to learn English #eltchat
9:58 pm Fuertesun: @sandymillin G is for google doc B is for BBC ? #ELTChat
9:58 pm fionamau: RT @marekandrews: When the best leader’s work is done the people say, ‘We did it ourselves!’ Lao-tsu. #eltchat
9:58 pm BethCagnol: @Marisa_C @tarabenwell That is a fab idea (learner training lesson). I think I’ll add that to this semesters syllabi. #ELTCHAT
9:58 pm VGoodyear: @sandymillin cooperative learning strategies using wiki’s where each student is accountable for their learning have worked 4 me #eltchat
9:58 pm ISILBOY: RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin they make topic pages for vocab & then make word clouds or spidergrams or pics to label on same topic #ELTChat
9:58 pm tarabenwell: @Marisa_C The address book made so much sense for vocab before smartphones. Nobody could complain they couldn’t afford one. #ELTChat
9:58 pm Fuertesun: @Marisa_C That’s nice gonna steal that! #ELTChat
9:59 pm marekandrews: Developing Learner Autonomy, Dick Allwright with Leni Dam http://tinyurl.com/4bxz8qd #eltchat
9:59 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Fuertesun: @sandymillin B is for BBC ? #ELTChat > what’s left of it after the cuts 🙁
9:59 pm bcnpaul1: @Marisa_C sounds like a blogpost 🙂 #eltchat
9:59 pm Marisa_C: @BethCagnol make “Lesson” Plural – Lessons ! One is not enough #ELTCHAT
9:59 pm sandymillin: @Fuertesun Expensive way of listing tools they can use at home 😉 #ELTChat
9:59 pm BethCagnol: @lydbury Well, no, but I do hope no one needs an English teacher when I’m 41. Especially if we all keep doing fab jobs as teachers. #ELTCHAT
10:00 pm mmgrinberg: Btw, did we mention portfolios? The topic pages can go there #eltchat
10:00 pm BethCagnol: @lydbury I was kinda half kiddin’ there. #ELTCHAT
10:00 pm ColinTGraham: @IsilBoy I think you could also use something like Glogster to combine pictures, vocab notes, links to audio etc… #eltchat
10:00 pm Fuertesun: @sandymillin just got explanation ignore mine! #ELTChat
10:00 pm janetbianchini: When I studied Greek I used to cut out magazine articles and stick them in notebook and then look up words -worked a treat #ELTCHAT
10:00 pm Shaunwilden: RT @mmgrinberg: Btw, did we mention portfolios? The topic pages can go there #eltchat
10:00 pm Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 or a DELTA assignment on this – of which I have tons – may I’ll put one of them up 🙂 #eltchat
10:00 pm BethCagnol: @Marisa_C SOOO true. Totally agree. #ELTCHAT
10:00 pm ShellTerrell: Yes! Great idea! RT @mmgrinberg: Btw, did we mention portfolios? The topic pages can go there #eltchat
10:00 pm mmgrinberg: Language passports from the coursebooks are quite helpful even with lower levels #eltchat
10:01 pm lydbury: I guessed @bethcagnol #ELTCHAT
10:01 pm tarabenwell: The English learners on MyEC may not need me. The moderators (English learners) are doing an amazing job. So proud of them. #ELTCHat
10:01 pm DinaDobrou: @janetbianchini Or read the cereal box in the morning, or the menu in restaurants. 😛 #ELTchat
10:01 pm mmgrinberg: A checklist for diff types of mistakes can be helpful, too #eltchat “Check before, check after” in ‘Dealing with difclts’
10:01 pm ISILBOY: that’s my plan for the second term 🙂 RT @ColinTGraham: I think you could also use something like Glogster #eltchat
10:02 pm mattledding: RT @janetbianchini: When I studied Greek I used to cut out magazine articles and stick them in notebook and then look up words -worked a treat #ELTCHAT
10:02 pm Marisa_C: @DinaDobrou I made a silly xtranormal on this “The Eat your Way into English” new method 🙂 #ELTchat
10:02 pm ShellTerrell: Thanks everyone for another lively & great #eltchat Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C
10:03 pm cioccas: #ELTchat we have radio for print handicapped so encourage Ss to listen & read same article in newspaper
10:03 pm janetbianchini: @DinaDobrou Yes, all those tips are great! I encourage ss to copy signs / posters they see and bring in to class #ELTCHAT
10:03 pm vickyloras: SUPER IDEA!RT @janetbianchini When I studied Greek,used2cut out magazine articles,stick in notebk&then look up wds-worked a treat #ELTCHAT
10:03 pm Fuertesun: RT @ShellTerrell: Thanks everyone for another lively & great #eltchat Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C thanks
10:03 pm sandymillin: RT @ShellTerrell: Thanks everyone for another lively & great #eltchat Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C | and by you 🙂
10:03 pm BethCagnol: @DinaDobrou Or save lost tourists during a transport strike (I tell mine to camp out at major metro hubs to practice their English. #ELTCHAT
10:03 pm sarah_SKB: Really interesting ideas – thanks! #eltchat
10:03 pm cerirhiannon: RT @ShellTerrell: Another great moderating job by @Marisa_C > thx to both of you and all the other #eltchat – ters -gr8 convo 🙂
10:03 pm bcnpaul1: another energising #eltchat makes my wednesday so it does… but have to go. thank you @marisa_c& @shellterrell.
10:04 pm tarabenwell: RT @vickyloras: SUPER IDEA!RT @janetbianchini When I studied Greek,used2cut out magazine articles,stick in notebk&then look up wds-worked a treat #ELTCHAT
10:04 pm fionamau: RT @ShellTerrell: Great tip! RT @Marisa_C: We bring a book box to class and they have to choose a reader to take home #ELTchat
10:04 pm stiiiv: good to follow. thanks #eltchat
10:04 pm BethCagnol: @janetbianchini @DinaDobrou Or telephone a hotel, make a reservation, then cancel the next day. Location: their choice. #ELTCHAT
10:04 pm vickyloras: Amazing #ELTChat – thanks to everyone!
10:04 pm sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: Oh! It’s over already! Thank you all for joining in! Time has flown right past me again – great conversation #eltchat 😉
10:04 pm DinaDobrou: @bethcagnol That’s really great! Hope we’ll get lots of tourists in Greece this summer, then! 😛 #ELTchat
10:04 pm mattledding: Thanks for a great #eltchat… good ideas gleaned.
10:04 pm europeaantje: #ELTchat time flies…
10:05 pm janetbianchini: I encourage ss to keep notebook for all slang / vocab they hear in the street / in homestay families+bring to class to peer teach #ELTCHAT
10:05 pm ColinTGraham: Thanks for the conversations everyone! #ELTCHAT
10:05 pm BethCagnol: Another energising #eltchat Thank you @marisa_c and @shellterrell.
10:05 pm Fuertesun: RT @janetbianchini: I encourage ss to keep notebook for all slang / vocab they hear in the street / in homestay families+bring to class to peer teach #ELTCHAT
10:05 pm bcnpaul1: goodnight all #eltchat
10:05 pm lydbury: RT @bethcagnol: Another energising #eltchat Thank you @marisa_c and @shellterrell. <yeah
10:05 pm DinaDobrou: Is it over? We’re still exchanging ideas! Let’s have an ‘after’ party #ELTchat lol
10:05 pm ErenNesrin: RT @janetbianchini: #ELTchat Getting ss to perform real-life tasks (in UK) eg market day in Oxford ss would go out to do teachers’ shopping – they loved it!
10:06 pm ELTExperiences: RT @janetbianchini: I encourage ss to keep notebook for all slang / vocab they hear in the street / in homestay families+bring to class to peer teach #ELTCHAT
10:06 pm Fuertesun: Thanks everyone night! #eltchat
10:06 pm fionamau: #eltchat My tweet re army reads like they don’t normally think.I meant I ask them 2 think abt next class topic at home.Many prep’d vocab etc
10:06 pm mmgrinberg: Another gr8 #eltchat, thanks to @Marisa_C and @ShellTerrell the glorious moderators!
10:06 pm BethCagnol: Bonne nuit @marisa_c @shellterrell and to my fave #ELTCHAT ers. Sorry only caught the last 20mn, but it was great!
10:06 pm VGoodyear: enjoyed stumbling into #eltchat – some helpful information and a lot of learning: I recommend!
10:06 pm cioccas: #ELTchat Thanks everyone – I’ve been following on my phone & sharing with my colleagues!
10:06 pm vladkaslniecko: Thanks for really great #eltchat 🙂

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