How do we cater for the needs of our learners in this digital age? #ELTchat Transcript 16/03/2011
Transcript for the early chat on March 16 2011 – all times are GMT
| 12:06 pm | esolcourses: | RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell I agree #mobilelearning will really allow stds to take their learning with them #eltchat – no more heavy bags! |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens it’s about using your mobile phone as a learning resource #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | englishraven: | @rliberni That’s always interested me, tho. Do most learners really want to use mobile for study? #ELTChat |
| 12:06 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell I agree #mobilelearning will really allow stds to take their learning with them #eltchat – no more heavy bags! |
| 12:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELT http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens you can access vocab, exercises etc & tchrs can use them in the c’room #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | rdlln: | Have #eltchat students create content for wikis using hand held devices. Ex: http://disasterinjapan.wikispaces.com/#mobilelearning |
| 12:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | esolcourses: | @du_siemens learning using mobile devices (such as phones, iPads, netbooks, games consoles, etc) #ELTChat#Mlearning |
| 12:07 pm | du_siemens: | @englishraven I was about to ask the same question. How willing are ss to do that? #ELTChat |
| 12:07 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @riberni & @shellTerrel #mobilelearning is growing fast here in Indonesia.Many vendors cater the needs too #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | BrunoELT: | #ELTchat SM is a key to social Learning. It is a way for students to learn beyond the barriers of walls and Time which restricts schools. |
| 12:08 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | TeacherLola: | Teachers should inspire developers to create more applications #mobilelearning #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens @englishraven @rliberni Used it with 4 to 10 yr olds & adults & all very keen on it if it’s not just drilling apps #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell That’s really good. Congrats! I’ll have a better look at it as soon as #ELTChat finishes today. |
| 12:08 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearningfor #ELT http://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | rliberni: | @englishraven yes if it’s quick, easy and useful #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | Shaunwilden: | @englishraven Yes I’ve wondered this as well, am not sure how many are ready for mlearning #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | englishraven: | @ShellTerrell @rliberni @Shaunwilden Useful to distinguish between mLearning in class and outside of class? #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | BrunoELT: | Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens @englishraven I know @rliberni has had great success with her word of the day texting to English language learners #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven @rliberni in my opinion,teens are most likely to do so re:mobile for study #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | englishraven: | @annapires “How do we cater for the language needs of our learners in this digital age?” #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | StevenHerder: | @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat Are you in Indonesia? In a high school? Thanks. |
| 12:09 pm | rliberni: | @Shaunwilden @englishraven I send out just a simple word of the day via sms & it’s popular #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | esolcourses: | @englishraven @Shaunwilden I think a lot depends on how you do it. Many different ways to use #mlearning, both in and out of class #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! I agree! RT @englishraven: Useful to distinguish between mLearning in class and outside of class? #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | Marisa_C: | I find this question a bit wide open – can we narrow it down a bit please? #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | bucharesttutor: | Awesome page Jerry :)RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page:http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv#eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden @englishraven I send out just a simple word of the day via sms & it’s popular #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: I find this question a bit wide open – can we narrow it down a bit please? #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | du_siemens: | @Marisa_C Agreed. #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@englishraven: @rliberni That’s always interested me, tho. Do most learners really want to use mobile for study? #ELTChat?/ They do! |
| 12:10 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni:I send out just a simple word of the day via sms & it’s popular #eltchat that’s a neat idea 🙂 |
| 12:10 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell I might try it someday. #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: I find this question a bit wide open – can we narrow it down a bit please? #ELTchat ] agree with you. Scope is very broad |
| 12:10 pm | martincaicedo: | #eltchat Agree. mlearning should enhance and promote autonomous learning. Learning beyond the classromm |
| 12:11 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C Yes, is it language needs (in terms of language itself) or mode of delivery (in digital age)? #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | @englishraven I’ve seen quite good use in class for concept checking and quick MCQs it can save a lot of time here #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | Marisa_C: | What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @StevenHerder yes in Indonesia but my students range up from kindergarten to high school 🙂 #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | nutrich: | What are the “the language needs of our learners in this digital age” ? #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @martincaicedo: #eltchat Agree. mlearning should enhance and promote autonomous learning. Learning beyond the classromm |
| 12:11 pm | sedayyildirim: | @yitzha_sarwono google makes our life easier . I also share related links with my students #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | ShellTerrell: | Live video learning seems to be one technology that language students enjoy! Many sites Busuu, MyEngle, iTalki, Edufire #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C Yes, is it language needs (in terms of language itself) or mode of delivery (in digital age)? #ELTChat . gd 1 |
| 12:11 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @bucharesttutor: Awesome page Jerry :)RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Live video learning seems to be one technology that language students enjoy! Many sites Busuu, MyEngle, iTalki, Edufire #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @englishraven RT: Useful to distinguish between mLearning in class and outside of class? #ELTChat Yes definitely |
| 12:11 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@TutorMe_Online: what would be most valuable new apps for language?? #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | englishraven: | @rliberni I agree with in class research/reference and out of class ‘tidbits’, but wary of hyping mLearning too much just yet 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | Also think Voxopop has a strong community of language learners learning thru voice! @englishraven runs 1 of the most popular ones #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | Zoomicon: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | StevenHerder: | @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat Thanks. What % have a cell phone? From what age or grade? |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | @TeacherLola I think Apps are coming I haven’t seen many very good ones yet. #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | englishraven: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat |
| 12:12 pm | Marisa_C: | So, for example, more prominence to quick writing activities since a lot of this is needed in social media ? #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat |
| 12:12 pm | TeacherLola: | Indeed @rliberni: RT @martincaicedo: #eltchat Agree. mlearning should enhance and promote autonomous learning. Learning beyond the classroom |
| 12:13 pm | englishraven: | Topic suggestion from @annapires was more oriented around actual language #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat > thx for clarifying Anna |
| 12:13 pm | nutrich: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat Like internet discourse? |
| 12:13 pm | du_siemens: | Has anybody ever used twitter as a learning tool? 90% of my ss seem to have a twitter account and I’d love to take advantage of it #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | evemarfil: | JAPAN- NEWS in «The teaching village» via @barbsakahttp://www.teachingvillage.org/ #edchat #eltchat #edtech. My prayers are with you! |
| 12:13 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat > thx for clarifying |
| 12:13 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @sedayyildirim glad you share the same idea 🙂 #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | DebCapras: | Have you used mobile learning in your classes? http://t.co/ceeQVD6 via @polleverywhere #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | TeacherLola: | @rliberni apps are there but teacher do not know how to use them #ELTChat or too expensive c.c @tutorMe_online |
| 12:13 pm | englishraven: | @annapires @nutrich Right, so thinks like txt messaging and relevant language for tools? #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | nancyrubin: | RT @Marisa_C: What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | BrunoELT: | Using cellphones 🙂 RT @du_siemens: I’m sorry, but I’m not familiar with Mobile Learning. Would anybody mind explaining it to me? #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | du_siemens: | RT @DebCapras: Have you used mobile learning in your classes? http://t.co/ceeQVD6 via @polleverywhere #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | @du_siemens @teflpet has done, she did a talk on it at iatefl last year #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | When integrating technology students are more motivated to self-explore the topic & apply after class #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | TutorMe_Online: | #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 12:14 pm | nancyrubin: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @TutorMe_Online: #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | @TeacherLola 4 adult stds w/out much time for lessons it’s a great way of bridging between f 2 f meets this is where I started #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @ShellTerrell: When integrating technology students are more motivated to self-explore the topic & apply after class #ELTChat Agreed |
| 12:14 pm | Marisa_C: | @annapires Exaclty – so a different set of writing skills – or new syllabuses for shortening messages? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven @annapires exactly, blog comments and twitter have a particular discourse style and structure #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @TutorMe_Online: #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @du_siemens: Has anybody ever used twitter as a learning tool? 90% of my ss seem to have a twitter account and I’d love to take advantage of it #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:14 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:14 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell Definitely, especially because it’s something they already do at home… #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | du_siemens: | @Shaunwilden How did it go? #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | martincaicedo: | @ShellTerrell #ELTChat Yes. Our role should be showing them how to explore and make topics meaningful |
| 12:15 pm | englishraven: | @TutorMe_Online I don’t think ‘txt speak’ is any more different or disruptive than diff. b/w speaking and formal writing #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat David Crystal nails that answer on You Tube somewhere. Doesn’ hurt literacy, but helps it. |
| 12:15 pm | Shaunwilden: | @du_siemens She seems to get good results from it #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | @annapires is there a danger if students not being able to distinguish b’twn registers? #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:15 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @StevenHerder: @rliberni #eltchat David Crystal nails that answer on You Tube somewhere. Doesn’ hurt literacy, but helps it.>agree |
| 12:15 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @TeacherLola @rliberni That’s interesting – so maybe training teachers to use #mobilelearning is as important as new resources? #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | nutrich: | How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | du_siemens: | @StevenHerder Do you have that link in which David Crystal talks about it? #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat> nice |
| 12:16 pm | teachermedeiros: | I like to use MSN as a tool with my Ss. Chatting in English has been turning them more self-confident about their learning #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | englishraven: | @nutrich @annapires Biggest one, I think, is how things like twitter,blogs,FB have narrowed gap between speaking and writing. #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | StevenHerder: | @annapires #ELTchat I read recently, “Ss need the language of opportunity” to get jobs and that is still standard English imho. |
| 12:16 pm | nancyrubin: | 10 Ideas for Podcasting and Vodcasting with Students – http://ow.ly/4fyPd#ELTchat |
| 12:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens That is a great idea for using Twitter with your students! @TEFLPet does this #Eltchat Heres the preshttp://bit.ly/hdwJhG |
| 12:16 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven @annapires yes, it’s like a blended discourse – speech as text #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder yes, but I even find myself using txt lang in emails which is clearly not necessary – just habit #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @martincaicedo: #ELTChat Yes. Our role should be showing them how to explore and make topics meaningful |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | englishraven: | @teachermedeiros Has this required you (as a teacher) to think about new discourse styles (and rules)? #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | nutrich: | RT @annapires: We need to draw attention to diff. RT @rliberni is there a danger if students not being able to distinguish b’twn registers? #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | du_siemens: | Once I attended a talk given by David Crystal and he said that SMS lgg doesn’t really hurt literacy, but helps it… #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @teachermedeiros Has this required you (as a teacher) to think about new discourse styles (and rules)? #ELTChatYes 🙂 |
| 12:17 pm | odiep77: | RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv#eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @StevenHerder: @annapires #ELTchat I read recently, “Ss need the language of opportunity” to get jobs and that is still standard English imho. |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @teachermedeiros: I like to use MSN as a tool with my Ss. Chatting in English has been turning them more self-confident about their learning #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | danrmitvn: | I’ve set up a Twitter feed with scrolling updated links in my class’ VLE. Can personalise links and make announcements. Big success #ELTchat |
| 12:18 pm | nutrich: | Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) |
| 12:18 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @englishraven Good point but at least speech is a diff form of communication but txting more like writing so poss more confusing? #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:18 pm | englishraven: | RT @danrmitvn: I’ve set up a Twitter feed with scrolling updated links in my class’ VLE. Can personalise links and make announcements. Big success #ELTchat |
| 12:18 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@TutorMe_Online:trained teachers are the most important resource about #mobilelearning #ELTChat? |
| 12:18 pm | englishraven: | RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) |
| 12:18 pm | rliberni: | @TutorMe_Online I think it’s coming. I’ve seen some really neat uses from university lecturers #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | BrunoELT: | #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://bit.ly/gQD1GH#mobilelearning #sigml#mlearningvia@esolcourses @Koronkina |
| 12:18 pm | du_siemens: | @danrmitvn How did you do so? Would you mind helping me? I’m eager to use twitter with my students, just don’t know how. #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) Yes depends on if you’re angry at us or not 😉 |
| 12:18 pm | rliberni: | RT @BrunoELT: #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://bit.ly/gQD1GH #mobilelearning#sigml#mlearningvia@esolcourses @Koronkina |
| 12:18 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) |
| 12:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree RT @DebCapras: You have to be competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | nutrich: | @Shaunwilden Lol! Exactly! #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | BrunoELT: | Top 50 #mLearning (#Mobile #Learning) Resources http://slidesha.re/aaRMZ2 #mobilelearning #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | martincaicedo: | @teachermedeiros #ELTChat I’d say first thing is to identify how could MSN make your students’ achieve the learning objectives. |
| 12:19 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven @nutrich @annapires true,but I saw many of my students who are afraid to speak up,use english for their status on FB #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BrunoELT: #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://bit.ly/gQD1GH #mobilelearning#sigml#mlearningvia@esolcourses @Koronkina |
| 12:19 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | danrmitvn: | RT: @ShellTerrell ..think Voxopop has a strong community of language learners learning thru voice! > I’ve had HUGE success with it #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | StevenHerder: | @du_siemens #ELTChat I do now that you asked about David Crystal – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7WSzxQ0nX4 |
| 12:19 pm | du_siemens: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens That is a great idea for using Twitter with your students! @TEFLPet does this #EltchatHeres the pres http://bit.ly/hdwJhG |
| 12:19 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@ShellTerrell: Agree RT @DebCapras: You have to be competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. #eltchat? |
| 12:19 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat depen? (cont)http://deck.ly/~R24Og |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | @BrunoELT I agree I think it’s the mod day equivalent to the old memo book in the blazer pocket (at least it was 4 me :0)) #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono I agree that tweeting and FB updating are easier and less intimidating than speaking for many Ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @BrunoELT: Top 50 #mLearning (#Mobile #Learning) Resources http://slidesha.re/aaRMZ2 #mobilelearning#ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | nancyrubin: | Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy – http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: @yitzha_sarwono I agree that tweeting and FB updating are easier and less intimidating than speaking for many Ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | esolcourses: | A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning #ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@BrunoELT: #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://t.co/6v1tcVu #mobilelearning #sigml#mlearning! Agreed! |
| 12:20 pm | englishraven: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy –http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | englishraven: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy –http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses I think ‘low tech’ is the most effective at least at the moment #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | BrunoELT: | You are missed! RT @Raquel_EFL: @BrunoELT Im aleady in the office #sfk… I’m afraid I won’t be able to make it ~~~ have a nice #eltchat ! |
| 12:20 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens That is a great idea for using Twitter with your students! @TEFLPet does this #EltchatHeres the pres http://bit.ly/hdwJhG |
| 12:21 pm | TutorMe_Online: | RT: @TeacherLola trained teachers are the most important resource about #mobilelearning #ELTChat? agree teachers v imp to keep productive |
| 12:21 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell I do it a lot, but sometimes I find it overwhelming. #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | englishraven: | Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | Marisa_C: | To what degree are politeness principles followed in online communication? #eltchat & are they the same e,g? (cont)http://deck.ly/~wwcoa |
| 12:21 pm | nutrich: | We often drop pronouns and articles to save space in tweets, e.g. ‘think I should go check oven’ #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: Live video learning seems to be one technology that language students enjoy! Many sites Busuu, MyEngle, iTalki #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @rliberni That’s great – becuase I guess with mobile learning there’s a greater risk of unproductivity if not properly focused #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens I do too & try to integrate what I can & use rest to help them build a plan for studying outside of class #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven interesting notion and totally researchable : – ) #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | englishraven: | @nutrich Do we do that during rapid speaking as well? #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @StevenHerder most of my primary have cellphone already.if you’re teaching in private schools 90% has BB/iPhone/android phone #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | Shaunwilden: | @englishraven Interesting idea – would sts not initally have the same stress and anxiety about formulating stuff? #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | nutrich: | some areas of the world use different emoticons #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat I think that’s fine. The problem is when Ss ONLY know txt speak. Thoughts? |
| 12:22 pm | mike08: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:22 pm | bsmsenglish: | @BrunoELT @Koronkina True, there are only very few decent ELT apps for the iphone eg. #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | danrmitvn: | @du_siemens I created a separate Twitter account then embed a customized Faves Widgethttps://twitter.com/about/resources/widgets#ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great point! I’ve heard different text speech as well RT @nutrich: some areas of the world use different emoticons #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven to an extent, I think we do, but I’m not certain, what do you reckon? #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | TeacherLola: | Blackberry is trend and most of students have them. But there are more teachers taking the devices out of classroom #ELTchat #mlearning |
| 12:23 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @ShellTerrell @du_siemens Yes – big advantage of mobile learning for language learners is ease of continuing study beyond class #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @teachermedeiros: I like to use MSN as a tool with my Ss. Chatting has been turning them more self-confident abt their learning #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | ascensiontucson: | @ShellTerrell @annapires @nutrich Great thoughts from #eltchat! |
| 12:23 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bsmsenglish: True, there are only very few decent ELT apps for the iphone eg. #eltchat But do we need elt specific ones? |
| 12:23 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @englishraven: @yitzha_sarwono I agree that tweeting and FB updating are easier and less intimidating than speaking for many Ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@danrmitvn: @du_siemens I created a separate Twitter account then embed a customized Faves Widgethttp://t.co/oZLA4G1 #ELTchat? |
| 12:24 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @bsmsenglish: @BrunoELT @Koronkina True, there are only very few decent ELT apps for the iphone eg. #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder my feeling is that this would be rare – perhaps choice? Like any register it needs to be flagged & taught #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | Shaunwilden: | @englishraven I look forward to reading your research 😉 #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | nancyrubin: | Model good use of Audio by providing audio feedback to students – http://ow.ly/4fz4I #ELTchat |
| 12:24 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven absolutely! you looking at ur phd thesis there 😀 #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | englishraven: | @nutrich I think we do, but shorten in different ways for the two mediums. Important to note. #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | ShiftParadigm: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | gknightbkk: | If Ss are engaged in the discourse community why would you feel the need to teach it? They will learn. Give them the tools to join #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven that’s the idea but eventually teacher needs 2 encourage their students to speak up,coz as u said FB/tweet are easier #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder I also feel that some of it will eventually become standard – the way of things – You? #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven yes I agree, I think there’s a difference #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | newmanswords: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:25 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono I think the perfect/interesting way is to work on them simultaneously. #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | esolcourses: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @suzanegmota @englishraven agree with that thought,but at least they are practicing their english 🙂 #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | DebCapras: | #eltchat SS have to be a competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. |
| 12:25 pm | danrmitvn: | RT @ShellTerrell How many of us survey Ss to see which technologies,social media sites & tools they use? >good point! me:not enough #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses I know ppl who’ve tried mms, java etc and actually sms is the best (but still costs to send!) #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | hear hear @englishraven I think the perfect/interesting way is to work on them simultaneously. #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | ShiftParadigm: | When using social media, how to reflect tonal differences across cultures and languages? #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat I have Ss come back to Japan every year with chronic txt speak in their essays and regular writing. |
| 12:25 pm | thejamesabroad: | RT @gknightbkk: If Ss are engaged in the discourse community why would you feel the need to teach it? They will learn. Give them the tools to join #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | cybraryman1: | My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | evemarfil: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: #eltchat SS have to be a competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. |
| 12:26 pm | nutrich: | @annapires #eltchat you could get them doing that in the computer room, post a picture and get instant comments as a brainstorm |
| 12:26 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Bugger. Just tweeted it to the world, so good chance someone will get there before me! #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | Marisa_C: | I think not everyone able to engage fully if not sure or clear about some “unspoken protocols” #eltchat Think of examples of ppl who annoy? |
| 12:26 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT #ELTchat To practise exam speaking (e.g. FCE) show sts pics and imagine they are commenting on them on FB to warm up for task.> Good idea |
| 12:26 pm | englishraven: | RT @gknightbkk: If Ss are engaged in the discourse community why would you feel the need to teach it? They will learn. Give them the tools to join #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven delete that tweet immediatement! #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | suzanegmota: | @englishraven @yitzha_sarwono There´s a risk of having sts only using written lgg. #ELTchat |
| 12:26 pm | du_siemens: | RT @KarenInGreece: RT #ELTchat To practise exam speaking (e.g. FCE) show sts pics and imagine they are commenting on them on FB to warm up for task.> Good idea |
| 12:26 pm | SimonGreenall: | @englishraven Carefully noted, Jason 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | juanalejandro82: | holly cr*** it’s Wednesday and it’s #ELTChat‘s day! |
| 12:27 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall he he am a witness his idea 😀 #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder Do they also have inappropriate use of idiom and style? How would this work in their own language? #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | du_siemens: | RT @suzanegmota: @englishraven @yitzha_sarwono There´s a risk of having sts only using written lgg. #ELTchat |
| 12:27 pm | ShiftParadigm: | @englishraven @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden — good ide re thesis/research. Wonder whether FB or Twitter conduct or fund such efforts. #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @nutrich: @annapires #eltchat you could get them doing that in the computer room, post a picture and get instant comments as a brainstorm |
| 12:27 pm | esolcourses: | @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 examplehttp://www.cbfsms.com/ #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here. For EFL, it’s a lot less likely to be useful. Most comm. like this in L1. |
| 12:28 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @cybraryman1: My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | nancyrubin: | Bottom line – new tools empower students. teachers, and classrooms – http://ow.ly/4fzc6 #ELTchat |
| 12:28 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat Oooh good Q. Never imagines google could be a word, much less a verb until recently. Anything is possible, huh! |
| 12:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @esolcourses: @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 example http://www.cbfsms.com/#eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 example http://www.cbfsms.com/#eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here. For EFL, it’s a lot less likely to be useful. Most comm. like this in L1. |
| 12:28 pm | du_siemens: | I think it’s our role as a teacher 2 make our ss aware of the differences between SMS lgg and proper written lgg. Am I mistaken? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | lilianasimon: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here….true though for EFL can access blogs, etc |
| 12:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @du_siemens: I think it’s our role as a teacher 2 make our ss aware of the differences between SMS lgg and proper written lgg. Am I mistaken? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here. For EFL, it’s a lot less likely to be useful. Most comm. like this in L1. |
| 12:29 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens right. Correct use in correct context #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | englishraven: | @theteacherjames I sorta disagree. I think social media has huge potential for EFLers, who can be otherwise isolated. #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @suzanegmota true,but for me living in non-spoken English country it’s worth the try,at least they are trying something 🙂 #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich But I wonder, don’t they already know it? I just do it sometimes to play safe… #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | pedussi: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder yes, I think it’s just part of the teaching for L1 & L2 learners – I may be proved wrong! #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | evemarfil: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy –http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | DebCapras: | @nancyrubin #ELTchat Agree, but even native speakers have problems keeping up with speed of news flow in Twitter. How can NNS cope? |
| 12:30 pm | MrsC_teach: | RT @du_siemens: I think it’s our role as a teacher 2 make our ss aware of the differences between SMS lgg and proper written lgg. Am I mistaken? #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat LOL They bring back everything they hear enough times and want to mimic, if it seems cool |
| 12:30 pm | ShellTerrell: | For those who integrate tech effectively what are your observations of the impact it has had on your language learners? #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | theteacherjames: | @Shaunwilden Sure, we can make them aware of it, but it’s not worth going crazy over. #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @DebCapras: @nancyrubin #ELTchat Agree, but even native speakers have problems keeping up with speed of ne? (cont) http://deck.ly/~1w5En |
| 12:30 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: For those who integrate tech effectively what are your observations of the impact it has had on your language learners? #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | mme_henderson: | RT @ShellTerrell: When integrating technology students are more motivated to self-explore the topic & apply after class #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens they must recognise the concept as I suppose most languages have txt contractions, but still a need to get it riht #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | esolcourses: | @ShellTerrell @rliberni also, s’s often on payment plans where they get 100’s of free texts – the odd 1 or 2 in class won’t matter #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich Agreed. #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | Shaunwilden: | @theteacherjames Disagree, I think my sts have got a lot out of being able to access real world english #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | ddeubel: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | mme_henderson: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @martincaicedo: #ELTChat Yes. Our role should be showing them how to explore and make topics meaningful |
| 12:31 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTChat I tried to get the point reading over 100 tweets… I couldn’t… what’s today’s topic? |
| 12:31 pm | danrmitvn: | @ShellTerrell re: impact on learners: Involvement & interest in Eng. outside of class has gone up a lot for most students, 4 sure. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | englishraven: | RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat I tried to get the point reading over 100 tweets… I couldn’t… what’s today’s topic? > Pretty good example! |
| 12:32 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Disagree, I think my sts have got a lot out of being able to access real world english #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | StevenHerder: | @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat I strongly agree! |
| 12:32 pm | theteacherjames: | @englishraven Sure, but how likely are 2nd lang users to use text speech among themselves? Do they need to? #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | unha_engels: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @danrmitvn: re: impact on learners: Involvement & interest in Eng. outside of class has gone up a lot for most students, 4 sure. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | TeacherLola: | @ShellTerrell #ELTChat not good, Teachers are not familiar with this and think is a waste of time. OldSchool classes they prefer #mlearning |
| 12:33 pm | esolcourses: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What abt creating contexts 4 language practise that our ss can relate to? E.g. Describing rules of a game like Farmville for modals |
| 12:33 pm | mme_henderson: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy –http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:33 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Very good point. #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | ShiftParadigm: | @StevenHerder @rliberni yitzha_sarwono – quick question, how much should one rely on ICT to “translate” and “interpret”? #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | Marisa_C: | @theteacherjames #ELTChat So do you think it’s just a question of showing them what to do and then letting them loose!? |
| 12:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | @TeacherLola That’s the teachers but how about the students? It surprises me how some tchrs never consider their students 1st #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | englishraven: | @theteacherjames I think if EFL Ss join global groups/networks, it’s genuine communication, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder ‘cool’ is probably the key and that’s a different issue #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | du_siemens: | @seouldaddy Definitely. I always try to bring that up whenever I’m teaching writing as well. #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | averyteach: | RT?@cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://t.co/jpqUgyR#eltchat? #jmstigers |
| 12:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @englishraven:I think if EFL Ss join global groups/networks, it’s genuine communication, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | theteacherjames: | @Shaunwilden #eltchat I’m just not convinced it represents as much of the real world as we can make it out to be. Maybe one day? |
| 12:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires:I find sts are more motivated when learning lang & skills needed for tech they use in real life. #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses good point – but I’m pushing mine so I have to pay so I guess that’s the difference. #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | Shaunwilden: | @ShiftParadigm @StevenHerder @rliberni As much as we would in real life? #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | BrunoELT: | @ShellTerrell I can easily recognize a sense of language confidence in the sts I use tech with. #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | englishraven: | @theteacherjames @ShellTerrell Tara Benwell’s work over on EC is a pretty powerful example! #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BrunoELT: I can easily recognize a sense of language confidence in the sts I use tech with. #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | teachermedeiros: | @englishraven Indeed.I improve their vocabulary from the former class by avoiding net vocabulary/slangs when chatting on the MSN.#ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: @TeacherLola That’s the teachers but how about the students? It surprises me how some tchrs never consider their students 1st #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @englishraven:I think if EFL Ss join global groups/networks, it’s genuine communication, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | Shaunwilden: | @theteacherjames I know it made my sts more willing to do hmk and be autonomous and that has to be a good thing #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @annapires:I find sts are more motivated when learning lang & skills needed for tech they use in real life. #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | StevenHerder: | @ShiftParadigm #eltchat Being engaged with English trumps everything in my EFL context. It’s all about timing – THEIRS not mine. |
| 12:35 pm | rliberni: | @ShiftParadigm @StevenHerder @Shaunwilden good answer Shaun tho some ppl have more faith than others #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: RT @annapires:I find sts are more motivated when learning lang & skills needed for tech they use in real life. #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | ShellTerrell: | @englishraven @theteacherjames1000s of Ss in various EFL networks taking learning into their own hands bcuz school doesn’t offer #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | esolcourses: | @rliberni yes, I suppose so. Depends how many s’s you have as well. Many PAYG top up plans in UK give you 100’s of free texts #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | du_siemens: | I disagree with what’s been said here about not using net lgg with our students. Don’t they need to be exposed to it as well? #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | BrunoELT: | @juanalejandro82 How do we cater for sts needs in this digital era. #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @StevenHerder: @ShiftParadigm #eltchat Being engaged with English trumps everything in my EFL context. It’s all about timing – THEIRS not mine. |
| 12:35 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat @englishraven @Marisa_C It’s a question of emphasis, not ignorance. Teach by all means, but in proportion… |
| 12:36 pm | DebCapras: | RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Maybe one day? – THe community is growing – but it’s still very small. |
| 12:36 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames I know it made my sts more willing to do hmk and be autonomous and that has to be a good thing #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | keithbarrs: | textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | englishraven: | Interesting also how things like twitter and FB are free… #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses maybe I should find a new provider! #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | du_siemens: | RT @englishraven: Interesting also how things like twitter and FB are free… #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @ShiftParadigm @StevenHerder @rliberni for me?as much as I can to get them to practice it? #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @keithbarrs: textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | juanalejandro82: | RT @keithbarrs: textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | shoham1: | RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv#eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | DebCapras: | Interesting – see problem with twitter! RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat…point reading over 100 tweets…I couldn’t. what’s today’s topic? |
| 12:37 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @keithbarrs: textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | @matthewbennett I agree. Some of my adult students took a lot of pushing but glad I did it they appreciate it #Eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | BrunoELT: | @ShellTerrell it’s great to see that tech helps sts use the language outside the boundaries of a classroom. That’s priceless #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat @englishraven @Marisa_C Love to use soc. networks w /sts, but they don’t need specific language to do it unless comm. w/ L1 users. |
| 12:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! RT @BrunoELT: it’s great to see that tech helps sts use the language outside the boundaries of a classroom. That’s priceless #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | StevenHerder: | @sarahksantos #ELTChat Do they have Internet at home? If so, share your excitement… |
| 12:37 pm | gknightbkk: | Email was a problem because of its upstart language, compared to a letter. Twitter will replace email. We have to accept it. #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | Marisa_C: | I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | du_siemens: | @BrunoELT What do you mean by tech, Brunao? Can you give me examples? #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | du_siemens: | Definitely. RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Possibly, but it depends who’s buying them. Students, teachers, schools or ministries #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @du_siemens: Definitely. RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat > I think they are coursebooks! |
| 12:38 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @gknightbkk: Email was a problem because of its upstart language, compared to a letter. Twitter will replace email. We have to accept it. #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | juanalejandro82: | @Marisa_C and also the smartphone communication stuff! BlackBerry’s pins, for instance #ELTChat |
| 12:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall you have a point but online communication is a new genre and needs to be illustrated along others #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall you have a point but online communication is a new genre and needs to be illustrated along others #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | Aaronsgrant: | @marisa_C I agree. the Cambridge UP ‘Real’ series features a bit of this. #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | matthewbennett: | @ShellTerrell I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour (checking their e-mail). #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | theteacherjames: | @DebCapras @Shaunwilden @englishraven @Marisa_C #eltchat Don’t misunderstand me, love social networks, not sure about the lang. associated. |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @matthewbennett: @ShellTerrell I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour (checking their e-mail). #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven good point but require strong materials design skills by Ts #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall you have a point but online communication is a new genre and needs to be illustrated along others #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Agree. But the most conservative people are those who dont know what’s happening in the clasroom #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | nice thought @Marisa_C I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C Or, “I think coursebook (elements/techniques) should feature (alongside) Twitter and FB”? #ELTChat |
| 12:40 pm | esolcourses: | @Marisa_C @DebCapras @nancyrubin I use protected Twitter accounts for s’s & have them just follow each other +me as an induction #ELTChat |
| 12:40 pm | TeacherLola: | @matthewbennett @shellterrell @rliberni My Ss don´t check their email anymore. They love the information in their FB walls! #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | nancyrubin: | Are podcasting with your students? Can be portable (students can listen on the go) and made public! http://ow.ly/4fzH3#ELTchat |
| 12:40 pm | Marisa_C: | @theteacherjames Am thinking along the lines of studying them as samples of effective +/- communication #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | esolcourses: | @Marisa_C @DebCapras @nancyrubin gets them used to using Twitter without being overwhelmed by the information flow #ELTChat |
| 12:40 pm | fboss: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:41 pm | matthewbennett: | @TeacherLola @shellterrell @rliberni Right, that’s another good observation. We have to follow what they’re using and go there too. #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @StevenHerder: @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat I strongly agree! |
| 12:41 pm | du_siemens: | Agreed, Suzane. RT @suzanegmota: @SimonGreenall @Marisa_C But they need to do so #ELTchat |
| 12:41 pm | StevenHerder: | @TeacherLola #eltchat Nice observation. Mine are headed that way, too. |
| 12:41 pm | Marisa_C: | @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:41 pm | rliberni: | @TeacherLola yes email is so ‘noughties’ Lol #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:41 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTChat once I asked my Ss to use their cellphones in order to look for topics on the web. and it was an interesting experience |
| 12:42 pm | du_siemens: | I reckon there’s no way for us to bond with our students if we don’t try to understand what’s going on in their world. #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | rliberni: | RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat once I asked my Ss to use their cellphones in order to look for topics on the web. and it was an interesting experience |
| 12:42 pm | nutrich: | RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | SimonGreenall: | RT @StevenHerder: @TeacherLola #eltchat Nice observation. Mine are headed that way, too.> I agree too. But do decision makers agree? |
| 12:42 pm | englishraven: | RT @du_siemens: I reckon there’s no way for us to bond with our students if we don’t try to understand what’s going on in their world. #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | rliberni: | @juanalejandro82 interesting in what way? #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat once I asked my Ss to use their cellphones in order to look for topics on the web. and it was an interesting experience |
| 12:42 pm | theteacherjames: | @Marisa_C It’s a good example, you probably find some examples here.! #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | DebCapras: | @esolcourses @esolcourses #ELTChat #ELTChat That’s one safe way – when it comes to authentic tweets – language can be tough to decipher |
| 12:42 pm | keithbarrs: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:42 pm | nutrich: | RT @du_siemens: I reckon there’s no way for us to bond with our students if we don’t try to understand what’s going on in their world. #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | Marisa_C: | @juanalejandro82 Well, now you’re looking at the flipside of language: what digital skills should we introduce to our Ss? #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @TeacherLola @matthewbennett @shellterrell @rliberni hahaha,the same thing happens here!FB & twitter are they daily news! #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @SimonGreenall: @Marisa_C Agree. But the most conservative people arethose who dont know what’s happening in the clasroom #ELTchat |
| 12:42 pm | pauljinks: | Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:43 pm | Shaunwilden: | @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat is that interesting in a gd way? |
| 12:43 pm | bcnpaul1: | afternoon. coming in a bit late to #eltchat & trying to catch up |
| 12:43 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @nancyrubin: Are podcasting with your students? Can be portable (students can listen on the go) and made public!http://ow.ly/4fzH3#ELTchat |
| 12:43 pm | englishraven: | Yes, I think Ss language experience via Twitter or FB definitely enhanced with guidance from a teacher. #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | simfin: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree RT @DebCapras: You have to be competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | gknightbkk: | I notice many of you have not capitalised your Twitter names. Please correct this #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | rliberni: | @matthewbennett @yitzha_sarwono Agree and the problem us – what’s next? #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | du_siemens: | Should we really introduce net lgg / digital skills to our ss? If I do so, I’ll be humiliated because they know better than me. #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | englishraven: | RT @pauljinks: Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:43 pm | StevenHerder: | @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:43 pm | matthewbennett: | The following article about habits + effects is what got me thinking about all of this a couple of years agohttp://nyti.ms/gM4rJj #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | Shaunwilden: | @du_siemens So get them to teach you 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | rliberni: | RT @StevenHerder: @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:44 pm | nancyrubin: | RT @pauljinks: Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:44 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:44 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder who decides? #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | juanalejandro82: | that they only needed me when they didn’t know certain words in context RT @rliberni: interesting in what way? #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @pmackichan: Can’t see that twitter is any more important than basketball. How many times do you discuss basketball in L2? #ELTchat > 😀 |
| 12:44 pm | du_siemens: | @Shaunwilden That’s what I usually do. However, I do make them aware of the differences in writing (formal x informal). #ELTChat |
| 12:44 pm | matthewbennett: | @rliberni The problem us – what’s next???? Don’t understand what you mean? #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | SimonGreenall: | @matthewbennett Then you’re fortunate, and this isn’t the case in developing countries #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat? |
| 12:44 pm | bcnpaul1: | @marisa_c which digital skills? the skill to publish something (e.g.to a blog), read comments and then respond to create dialogue #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | juanalejandro82: | RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat? |
| 12:44 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @lesliedavison: mom told me her child is NOT using her Spanish after school this yr as she did last. No Edmodo, vokis, etc. #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | nutrich: | RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat | If it’s relevant to the student |
| 12:44 pm | LucyBlakemore: | e-learning Daily: stories via @ddeubel @englishraven and @davedodgson, inc thoughts on Japan ? http://t.co/oDpcHZb#eltchat #edtech #esl |
| 12:45 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @gknightbkk: I notice many of you have not capitalised your Twitter names. Please correct this #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | rliberni: | @matthewbennett now it’s FB but what’s round the corner? #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @matthewbennett: I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @nutrich: RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat | Ifrelevant to the student> agree |
| 12:45 pm | DebCapras: | Exactly – so many people don’t need Twitter. RT @nutrich: Learn to tweet should be a must! #ELTChat | If it’s relevant to the student |
| 12:45 pm | lesliedavison: | RT @mme_henderson: RT @nancyrubin: Commenting & Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy – http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | rliberni: | @juanalejandro82 that’s good then – did they enjoy it? I think #mlearningis still for bits of language – screens 2 small #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | bcnpaul1: | @TeacherLola tweeting v.useful for teachers, but perhaps not always relevant to sts (IM on facebook in english is better IMO) #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | nutrich: | @pmackichan it’s authentic in it’s own context but can’t be compared with different types of communciation #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: Exactly – so many people don’t need Twitter. RT @nutrich: Learn to tweet should be a must! #ELTChat | If it’s relevant to the student |
| 12:46 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @rliberni: @StevenHerder who decides? #eltchat Sorry, lost me there. |
| 12:46 pm | ShellTerrell: | @lesliedavison That is so sad but definitely shows the power of using these tools! #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat? – only if relevant surely |
| 12:46 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan Could it be bcz u don’t engage in communication via twitter but prefer other platforms? #ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | matthewbennett: | @SimonGreenall Fortuante? To read an article 🙂 ? What isn’t the case in developing countries?? #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | rliberni: | RT @lesliedavison: RT @mme_henderson: RT @nancyrubin: Commenting & Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy – http://ow.ly/4fyVN #ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @gknightbkk ah ok then,nice idea re:capitalised twitter name #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | suzanegmota: | @du_siemens Totally agree!!#ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | TeacherLola: | @nutrich Anything can be relevant to a student if the teacher gave the right context! #ELTChat@marisa_c@juanalejandro82 |
| 12:46 pm | juanalejandro82: | yes, indeed! because they face such a “self-taught” thing RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTChat is that interesting in a gd way? |
| 12:47 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan may be not relevant to u and of course not to every student #ELTchat |
| 12:47 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder who decides on whether you teach well or not #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @matthewbennett: I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | du_siemens: | Have we been taught how 2 use twitter? (some of us, yes). We just created an account and started experimenting with it. #ELTChat |
| 12:47 pm | nutrich: | @TeacherLola @marisa_c @juanalejandro82 ask the student first? #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | ProfDevSupport: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy –http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:47 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens yes in L1 #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | Marisa_C: | @TeacherLola that’s quite a sweeping statement – a prescribed syllabus orientation – not true of every context #ELTChat |
| 12:47 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @rliberni @matthewbennett hopefully getting them on some sort of group chatting like what we do here 🙂 #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | matthewbennett: | Right, good question from @rliberni what’s after FB? I don’t think it’s so much about ‘after FB/Twitter’ but mobile phones + access #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | Shaunwilden: | @juanalejandro82 A good lesson in ‘why ask me the teacher when you can find out for yourself’ 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich Even in L2… I love in Brazil and my students speak Portuguese, right? However, most of them have FB accounts. #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | esolcourses: | @StevenHerder @SimonGreenall great to have that level of autonomy Steven, though bureaucracy can sometimes be tough to cut through #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @juanalejandro82 A good lesson in ‘why ask me the teacher when you can find out for yourself’ 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | keithbarrs: | #ELTchat been surprised by and engaged in the english communications on twit and FB between Japanese students on earthquake related news |
| 12:48 pm | BrunoELT: | @guipac it’s vital to hook the learning content into an existing tech behaviour #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich I live in Brazil, I’m sorry. #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @matthewbennett: Right, good question from @rliberni what’s after FB? I don’t think it’s so much about ‘after FB/Twitter’ but mobile phones + access #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat been surprised by and engaged in the english communications on twit and FB between Japanese students on earthquake related news |
| 12:48 pm | TeacherLola: | @nutrich And show others such as Blaving. #Eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat been surprised by and engaged in the english communications on twit and FB between Japanese students on earthquake related news |
| 12:49 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens Oh yeah, lol, good point! ; ) #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | simfin: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | gknightbkk: | If Ss need English for employment, ask the employers what social networking skills are required #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | matthewbennett: | Having used an iPhone + apps now for a month or so, that type of mobile access is the next thing. It’s already here, in fact. #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @simfin: RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | SimonGreenall: | @esolcourses Thanks Sue that was what I was trying to say in 140 chrcts #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @matthewbennett: Having used an iPhone + apps now for a month or so, that type of mobile access is the next thing. It’s already here, in fact. #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | juanalejandro82: | @Shaunwilden #ELTchat because they still need us to guide them how to use digital skills in a right way! and any other skill! |
| 12:49 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat Cheers. My boss knows based on S evaluations, and student chatter , just as I know about others… |
| 12:49 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @du_siemens: Have we been taught how 2 use twitter? (some of us, yes). We just created an account and started experimenting #ELTChat |
| 12:49 pm | TeacherLola: | @Marisa_C Thank you. I think Adult Ss could be the more reluctant to use this #ELTchat |
| 12:50 pm | esolcourses: | @StevenHerder @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many teachers.& IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | englishraven: | RT @esolcourses: @StevenHerder @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many teachers.& IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | Shaunwilden: | @juanalejandro82 Oh yes I agree but i meant it is good for them to realise they can do things without us 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many teachers.& IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | nutrich: | must go, but enjoyed interesting #eltchat. cheers |
| 12:50 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @StevenHerder: @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:50 pm | juanalejandro82: | RT @Shaunwilden: @juanalejandro82 Oh yes I agree but i meant it is good for them to realise they can do things without us 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | matthewbennett: | People?especially kids, teenagers + young adults?who have iPhones or Android, spend ALL day using them. That’s where we go. #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | du_siemens: | Letting our ss find out things by themselves isn’t part of promoting ss’s autonomy? Why do we HAVE to teach them how to use tech? #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@gknightbkk: If Ss need English for employment, ask the employers what social networking skills are required #eltchat?/ #fact |
| 12:51 pm | DebCapras: | Absolutely – autonomous learning is the future – using Twitter if you must. RT @Shaunwilden: —they can do things without us 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder OK so it works as a system & everybody has the chance to be in control if they demonstrate ‘ability’ #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: Absolutely – autonomous learning is the future – using Twitter if you must. RT @Shaunwilden: —they can do things without us 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Agree. Not just the media but the language used in it can be rejected by curriculum designers, ministries etc #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | englishraven: | @matthewbennett But do they want ‘study’ included/intruding in their “all day” mobile lives? #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @BrunoELT: RT @du_siemens: Have we been taught how 2 use twitter? (some of us, yes). We just created an account and started experimenting #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | StevenHerder: | @esolcourses #eltchat I’ve always looked up at the perceived “good” Ts and noticed that they could do as they liked. Striving to get there |
| 12:52 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @matthewbennett: People?especially kids, teenagers + young adults?who have iPhones or Android, spend ALL day using them. That’s where we go. #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | suzanegmota: | @matthewbennett Do they use it for any kind of learning? #ELTchat |
| 12:52 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @matthewbennett: People?especially kids, teenagers + young adults?who have iPhones or Android, spend ALL day using them. That’s where we go. #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authorities – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:52 pm | du_siemens: | @thejamesabroad It’s another thing now, right? We should encourage students to use the target language. #ELTChat |
| 12:52 pm | rliberni: | @DebCapras I agree autonomous learning puts the learner right in the centre & allows them to draw in what they need #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni: @DebCapras I agree autonomous learning puts the learner right in the centre & allows them to draw in what they need #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | suzanegmota: | @englishraven @matthewbennett That´s avery good point, I don´t think so #ELTchat |
| 12:53 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens But do your students speak to each other on FB in Eng or Portuguese? And what about after the course has finished? #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authorities – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | englishraven: | @SimonGreenall @Marisa_C Look how long it took corpus-based language to gain face… 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | TeacherLola: | @englishraven @matthewbennett Why to “study” all day, when you can “practice” all day #EFL #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Yes, although publishers will go where there’s a market. If ministries are run by oldstyle academics, then change is slow #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTchat sometimes it is us who learn from Ss when talking about “digital skills”… I guess… they are lynxes |
| 12:53 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @esolcourses: @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many Ts & IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat AGREED |
| 12:53 pm | matthewbennett: | @englishraven Do they want ‘study’ anywhere? Nope. Or at least probably not. So we make it fun, amusing and above all EASY to try. #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authories – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | esolcourses: | @StevenHerder 🙂 agree up to a point, though IME, a lot depends on the context you are teaching in/org. you work for #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authorities – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @riberni @englishraven :great #eltchat as always,but I have to go now! see you guys next week! |
| 12:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall good point #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | rliberni: | RT @StevenHerder: RT @esolcourses: @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many Ts & IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat AGREED |
| 12:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @yitzha_sarwono thanks for joining and see you soon:-) #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | englishraven: | @matthewbennett @matthewbennett I think this has a lot to do with reasons for learning English. #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | keithbarrs: | #ELTchat When I asked japanese student why she always wrote on FB in english she said it just seemed natural, everyone else was doing it |
| 12:55 pm | rliberni: | @yitzha_sarwono thanks for a gr9 chat c u nxt time #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | TeacherLola: | @Marisa_C @simongreenall I try to “sell” the knowledge of what I need them to practice on FB. This help them to practice #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | matthewbennett: | RT @Aaronsgrant: @matthewbennett agree. my students in kuwait would die a slow agonizing death without their blackberries #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | englishraven: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat When I asked japanese student why she always wrote on FB in english she said it just seemed natural, everyone else was doing it |
| 12:55 pm | DebCapras: | agree RT @matthewbennett: @englishraven So we make it fun, amusing and above all EASY to try. #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @SimonGreenall: @Marisa_C Yes, although publishers will go where there’s a market. If ministries are run by oldstyle academics, then change is slow #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens #eltchat I didn’t say would should they do, but what do they do! 🙂 |
| 12:56 pm | DebCapras: | That’s what we likeRT @teachermedeiros: #ELTChat After encouranging my Ss on MSN, FB and Twitter, their language skills have improved a lot! |
| 12:56 pm | StevenHerder: | @esolcourses #eltchat Yes, you’re right. I’ve been in Elem, JSHS and Uni – all private. |
| 12:56 pm | du_siemens: | The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@matthewbennett: RT @Aaronsgrant: my students in kuwait would die a slow agonizing death without their blackberries #eltchat/ Colombia 2! |
| 12:56 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @teachermedeiros: #ELTChat After encouranging my Ss on MSN, FB and Twitter, their language skills have improved a lot! – cool 🙂 |
| 12:56 pm | matthewbennett: | I mean, you have to think how an iPhone/Android app works and why you think one’s GREAT. Then try and do that for your teaching. #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | DebCapras: | A no-brainer really RT @du_siemens: The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | gknightbkk: | Social media will/has become business media. It’s got nothing to do with Ministries of Education – or shouldn’t #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @DebCapras: A no-brainer really RT @du_siemens: The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:57 pm | englishraven: | RT @gknightbkk: Social media will/has become business media. It’s got nothing to do with Ministries of Education – or shouldn’t #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat When I asked japanese student why she always wrote on FB in english she said it just seemed natural, everyone else was doing it |
| 12:57 pm | DebCapras: | @gknightbkk Agree. Students are deciding what they need to learn themselves in many cases #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | esolcourses: | RT @rliberni: @DebCapras I agree autonomous learning puts the learner right in the centre & allows them to draw in what they need #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | marett: | RT @BrunoELT: Top 50 #mLearning (#Mobile #Learning) Resources http://slidesha.re/aaRMZ2 #mobilelearning#ELTchat |
| 12:57 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan I love the teacher as bully to use twitter 😀 #ELTchatReminds me of myself and my trainees :trainees 😀 “What? no Twitter account yet?” #ELTchat |
| 12:57 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTchat I guess there’s only one bad thing about digital skills. Ss forget grammar by learning how to use less characters |
| 12:57 pm | teachermedeiros: | By posting in English instead of Portuguese on FB and Twitter, as well, my Ss have improved a lot their language skills! #ELTChat |
| 12:57 pm | englishraven: | Gotta go, folks. Thanks for another thought-provoking #ELTChat ! |
| 12:57 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: A no-brainer really RT @du_siemens: The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | matthewbennett: | I mean, you’d definitely be talking about ‘micro-learning’ on an iPhone, but you get a whole new world of UI, video, photos and? #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | du_siemens: | RT @teachermedeiros: By posting in English instead of Portuguese on FB and Twitter, as well, my Ss have improved a lot their language skills! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | esolcourses: | RT @englishraven: Gotta go, folks. Thanks for another thought-provoking #ELTChat ! |
| 12:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan interestingly only those who want will join so …#ELTchat |
| 12:58 pm | StevenHerder: | @matthewbennett #eltchat As would I without my iPhone |
| 12:58 pm | du_siemens: | @englishraven See you soon. #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | SimonGreenall: | @englishraven Bye! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven Cheers Jason and thanks for great moderation! 🙂 #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @teachermedeiros: By posting in English instead of Portuguese on FB and Twitter, as well, my Ss have improved a lot their language skills! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | matthewbennett: | ?most importantly, perhaps, it’s so EASY to comment, participate and share. Sounds like good news for learning to me. #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | ddeubel: | RT @StevenHerder: @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:58 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens Sorry, when they use FB with each other do they use Portuguese or English? #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | rliberni: | Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | TeacherLola: | @englishraven Thank you! #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | gknightbkk: | RT @matthewbennett: ?most importantly, perhaps, it’s so EASY to comment, participate and share. Sounds like good news for learning to me. #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Well, some of my students are already using English as I’ve motivated them to… #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | arezac: | RT @pauljinks: Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:59 pm | du_siemens: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | DebCapras: | @matthewbennett Sometimes too easy to share – don’t absorb /learn anything from the content – just RT and forget? #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens :0) #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | keithbarrs: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | TeacherLola: | I wonder, How do you deal with texting in native language in class? #ELTChat |
| 1:00 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @EclipsingX Hello world!: Welcome to WordPress. This is your first post. Edit or delete it, t… http://bit.ly/fkG5o9#ELT#ELTchat #ESL |
| 1:00 pm | esolcourses: | A round of thanks to today’s #ELTchat moderators @rliberni@Shaunwilden @englishraven @Marisa_C 🙂 |
| 1:00 pm | du_siemens: | I’d like to say something for the moderators: one hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 1:01 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens It takes encouragement, doesn’t it? #eltchat |
| 1:01 pm | StevenHerder: | Thanks everyone #ELTchat |
| 1:01 pm | Marisa_C: | Well good #ELTchatters, thank you all for joining this conversation today and giving me such a great buzz!! Lots to think about! #ELTchat |
| 1:01 pm | werner216: | RT @matthewbennett: I mean, you have to think how an iPhone/Android app works and why you think one’s GREAT. Then try and do that for your teaching. #eltchat |
| 1:01 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Yep, but if u don’t encourage ur ss to speak English in class, they won’t. Right? The same happens to tech. #ELTChat |
| 1:01 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@du_siemens: I’d like to say something for the moderators: one hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat?/ Agree |
| 1:01 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @du_siemens: I’d like to say something for the moderators: 1hr hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat 🙂 enough to what appetites 🙂 |
| 1:01 pm | Marisa_C: | @esolcourses Thanks for your fab contributions, Sue #ELTchat |
| 1:01 pm | matthewbennett: | As great example of iPhone possibilities: watch first 2?3 min of what Vaynerchuk has done with his new projecthttp://bit.ly/f47Ud0 #eltchat |
| 1:01 pm | DebCapras: | @Marisa_C Thanks back to you too. #ELTchatters #ELTchat |
| 1:02 pm | babelannet: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:02 pm | teachernz: | @sarahksantos #eltchat buy a USB 3g dongle … prepaid plan … instant internet (if you have coverage) #lurking |
| 1:02 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: Well good #ELTchatters, thank you all for joining this conversation today and giving me such a great buzz!! Lots to think about! #ELTchat |
| 1:02 pm | rliberni: | OK I have to go to GapCHat now! Gr8 chat thnx to tech gurus @Marisa_C@ShellTerrell @englishraven@Shaunwilden for moderating! #eltchat |
| 1:03 pm | Marisa_C: | @rliberni you are naughty #eltchat I ain’t no tech guru 😀 |
| 1:03 pm | TeacherLola: | #ELTChat makes me ponder about my teaching. Thank you! |
| 1:03 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @du_siemens @marisa_C @esolcourses @rliberni @englishraven@BrunoELT @ShellTerrell thanks for wonderful and inspiring #eltchat |
| 1:03 pm | rliberni: | @SimonGreenall that would be fantastic! Gr8 chat today #eltchat |
| 1:03 pm | matthewbennett: | @DebCapras Maybe, but at least you’re getting them participating and paying attention to SOMETHING. #eltchat |
| 1:04 pm | rliberni: | @Marisa_C OK so just guru then Lol 🙂 #eltchat |
| 1:04 pm | du_siemens: | @suzanegmota It’s because it was your first time. You’ll soon get used to it. #ELTChat |
| 1:04 pm | Marisa_C: | Thanks to these great moderators: @rliberni @ShellTerrell @englishraven@Shaunwilden #eltchat |
| 1:05 pm | matthewbennett: | What if, for example, someone did a simple ‘word a day’ iPhone app with: listen to pronunciation, speak and record your effort? #eltchat |
| 1:05 pm | du_siemens: | Thank you guys for another enlightening #ELTChat. I might try to use tech more often with my students and I’ll let you know how it went. |
| 1:06 pm | Marisa_C: | @Aaronsgrant Hi Aaron! Have you been following the chat? Do remember to use the #ELTchat hashtag bcz I didn’t see any of yr tweets 🙂 |
| 1:06 pm | matthewbennett: | ?photo of word or concept and some kind of ‘guess the translation’ thingy + look at + comment on your friends’ words? #eltchat |
| 1:06 pm | ShellTerrell: | Thanks to these great moderators: @rliberni @Marisa_C @englishraven@Shaunwilden #eltchat |
| 1:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Aaronsgrant: @Marisa_C yea, i’m just taking it all in…#ELTchat > great! |
| 1:07 pm | matthewbennett: | .@Aaronsgrant Does it do sharing, comment on your friends’ words, photos, pronunciation, etc, etc? or is it just ‘the word’ 🙂 ? #eltchat |
| 1:08 pm | Marisa_C: | Transcript anyone? #ELTchat |
| 1:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @du_siemens: I’d like to say something for the moderators: one hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 1:09 pm | adricarv: | RT @rliberni : Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens We have another #ELTChat at 9pm GMT you know 🙂 |
| 1:10 pm | CassyLL: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:10 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell I do, but I’ll be teaching. #ELTChat |
| 1:11 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens #eltchat Absolutely! |
| 1:11 pm | Dista11: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 1:12 pm | larisa1113: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:12 pm | Dista11: | RT @TutorMe_Online: #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 1:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens We have another #ELTChat at 9pm GMT you know 🙂 |
| 1:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:14 pm | larisa1113: | RT @esolcourses: @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 example http://www.cbfsms.com/#eltchat |
| 1:14 pm | juanalejandro82: | English teachers sharing information and experiences RT @josh_d7: @juanalejandro82 man que es eso de #eltchatdisculpa mi ignorancia |
| 1:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm#ELTchat needs YOU! > Great post Shaun! |
| 1:18 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm #ELTchat needs YOU! > Great post Shaun! |
| 1:19 pm | larisa1113: | RT @web20education: Teachers join free #vwbpe VIRTUAL WORLDS ? BEST PRACTICES IN EDUCATION 4TH ANNUAL CONFERENCE http://t.co/O1ZX9vJ #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt |
| 1:20 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:20 pm | eslguide: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:21 pm | interactivecup: | RT @marisa_c: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm #ELTchat needs YOU! > Great post Shaun! |
| 1:22 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:24 pm | du_siemens: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:36 pm | abfromz: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:40 pm | CELT_Athens: | ELTChat needs you?. http://bit.ly/hNLjwc #ELTchat |
| 1:42 pm | kinktent: | #ELTChat makes me ponder about my teaching. Thank you! http://bit.ly/h71eKN |
| 1:53 pm | RitaOates: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 1:56 pm | gregsweetnam: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 1:57 pm | katblue14: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 2:00 pm | rliberni: | RT @CELT_Athens: ELTChat needs you?. http://bit.ly/hNLjwc #ELTchat |
| 2:05 pm | danrmitvn: | Looking 4 a site for Ss 2 record audio clips & embed them on a website. Voxopop-esque but embeddable (with ability 2 reply) #eltchat #edtech |
| 2:06 pm | patysavage: | RT @cybraryman1: My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 2:10 pm | fionamau: | RT @du_siemens: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
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