{"id":1175,"date":"2011-03-02T14:28:41","date_gmt":"2011-03-02T13:28:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eltchat.com\/?p=1175"},"modified":"2011-03-02T14:28:41","modified_gmt":"2011-03-02T13:28:41","slug":"how-do-you-approach-teaching-exam-classes-eltchat-transcript-02032011","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/2011\/03\/02\/how-do-you-approach-teaching-exam-classes-eltchat-transcript-02032011\/","title":{"rendered":"How do you approach teaching exam classes? #ELTchat Transcript 02\/03\/2011"},"content":{"rendered":"

Transcript for the 12:00 p.m. GMT #ELTchat on the topic of teaching exam classes<\/p>\n

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11:58 am<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA quick glance at the tiebreaking tweets indicates to me we are going to discuss exam classes first up. #ELTChat<\/a> Any objections?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
11:59 am<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Exam classes sounds good (I’m biased as it was my suggestion, albeit from about 3 weeks ago! :p) #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
11:59 am<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWill be discussing exam classes on #ELTchat<\/a> for the next hour – hello all you ELTchatters!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
11:59 am<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Exam classes sounds fine so Welcome everyone to #eltchat<\/a> today mods are me, @englishraven<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> (so far)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
11:59 am<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> Come on. Don’t be so mad… I know you guys love having us around. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: Exam classes sounds fine so Welcome everyone to #eltchat<\/a> today mods are me, @englishraven<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> (so far)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> the beauty of twitter is u can hang around and go on for hours without us! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nLooking forward to discussing exam classes now – #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWhich exams do all y’all teach for? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nso it’s not the other choice then!? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSo let’s get a feel for the exams people are teaching (to) out there… Which exams do you and your learners face? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nhi everyone! great to be here \ud83d\ude42 can we define the term exam classes first? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOK exams are having a bad press generally at the moment so how do we feel about teaching them? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> Great minds think alike and all that… \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ozsolmaz<\/a>: hi everyone! great to be here \ud83d\ude42 can we define the term exam classes first? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nfor the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat<\/a> where we’re discussing (ugh!) exam classes. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> Cambridge YL exams (Starters, Movers, Flyers) #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHi all! It’s a great topic – exam classes – one of my favourite courses #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @barbsaka<\/a> Cambridge YL exams (Starters, Movers, Flyers) #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI prepare for FCE exams #ELTChat<\/a> …my only experience with teaching exam classes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’m also getting a 1-1 student ready for FCE #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> for me IELTS mostly sometimes CAE and CPE #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI have taught Cambridge suite mainly, but also IELTS #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> I personally feel bad when I teach them especially when it is one-on-one + for exam! nightmare for me. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nFirst of all, in my humble opinion, I think that knowing the exam you’re preparing students for is crucial. What do you think? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\npetertoppington<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @barbsaka<\/a> Cambridge YL exams (Starters, Movers, Flyers) #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> I’ve got C.A.E. and F.C.E. to prepare my learners for this year. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nCambridge Main Suite PET FCE CAE and YL exams for me #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nhere in Japan it’s the TOEIC exam from ETS that’s got everyone’s attention. ETS did some “fantastic” marketing here. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nnot currently teaching exam classes but have taught all cambridge main suite (FCE,CAE,CPE) and find that they can be v.rewarding #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’ve done Cambridge YLE, KET, PET, FCE, CAE, CPE, TOEIC, TOEFL, IELTS, host of local (Korea) ones, + OTE in Australia. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> I agree – you should know it inside out! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ozsolmaz<\/a> my students are mostly 1:1 but they really have to have IELTS so it’s very rewarding to get them to the right level #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nB2-C2 levels of Michigan, Cambridge, LTE, City and Guilds as well as TIE, Trinity spoken exams… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI go to an American language institute in Lima, Peru where students do the Michigan tests #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nwhat I hate about exam classes is.. a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat<\/a> anyone agree?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nCambridge YL, FCE, IELTS, CAE, CPE, LTE, City and Guilds, TIE, Trinity, TOEIC, PET…Is everyone familiar with these acronyms? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> Yes. Otherwise how are we gonna provide our students with helpful tips if we ourselves don’t know the exam? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Agreed – motivating studnets to pass is v. rewarding #ELTchat<\/a> but hard sometimes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> totally agree about the practice #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: what I hate about exam classes is.. a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat<\/a> anyone agree?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> I have the same feeling. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> @CintiaStella<\/a> Don’t know much about the Michigan tests (though heard of them). What do you think of them? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> How are the local ones in Korea? The English tests in Turkey have some bizarre questions! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> yes, my experience too I often tell them to throw away the book and watch telly – especially IELTS! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAlthough I try to make classes interesting as much as possible, sometimes students get bored and they just wanna talk. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nDo your stds ignore the techniques u constantly teach them when they actually do an exam? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> that feels great when you help them achieve. I don’t like the pressure parents putting on teacher and student..ugh.. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIs there any point of teaching to an exam? I mean, isn’t familiarizing Ss w\/ an exam enough.Then get on w\/ teaching English right? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: what I hate about exam classes is a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat<\/a> I agree<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> The local ones in Korea are shockers. Absolute shockers. Reliability swamping out all validity. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Do you know that I’ve realized? Some students of mine have their own techniques and they work quite well. LOL. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: RT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: what I hate about exam classes is a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat<\/a> I agree<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lolonagi<\/a> my definition of an exam lass is one where the endgame is to take a pass a specific test e.g FCE, CAE etc #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Do you know that I’ve realized? Some students of mine have their own techniques and they work quite well. LOL. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: @lolonagi<\/a> my definition of an exam lass is one where the endgame is to take a pass a specific test e.g FCE, CAE etc #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> In theory true, but the actual stuff they need to know in an exam doesn’t come up naturally #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> I’m not sure, Chuck. I guess we have to teach them how to deal the exam. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI always advise my Ss to answer as many exams as possible t pass #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> I like them-they are regarded (nearly?) as highly as cambridge here.GCVR OK,but writing and speaking parts very good #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> That’s what I think. Unfortunately, department heads & parents often disagree #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> I’ve found there are really great ways to take Ss “inside” exams, where teaching\/learning take precedence. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I think it’s a combination of what they can learn generally and the technique for the exam #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Do you think teaching test taking strategies helps? Your right: there seems to be little transfer. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Wha are those mysterious “ways” you talk about? ;P #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSo 2 types of class instruction–how to succeed on the test (strategies, familiarity) and language likely to be tested? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI usually tell my ss: “it doesn’t matter how good UR English is, if U don’t have the techniques, u’re likely to face difficulties” #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA lot of teachers also think it’s about practise, practise, practise and not about teaching language and skills. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@NikkiFortova<\/a> That’s what I do, you know? but sometimes they just wanna talk for the sake of talking. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: @chucksandy<\/a> In theory true, but the actual stuff they need to know in an exam doesn’t come up naturally #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nTeaching students the necessary skills \/ strategies invoilved is vital as well as practice #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: Teaching students the necessary skills \/ strategies invoilved is vital as well as practice #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: “Ive found there are really great ways to take Ss “inside” exams, where teaching\/learning take precedence.”Agree! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI like to teach beyond the exam if they are working at band 7 IELTS then they will be comfortable for a 6.5 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@theteacherjames<\/a> Completely agreed. That’s why I love talking to you guys! hehehe #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Same here. Out-dated or highly unusual vocab, long texts to read & naswer for just one point, no writing\/speaking… #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Have them examine the tests, then make their own projects and items for them, then ‘test’ each other! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nsts respond when communication the main focus& then “btw – that’s v.useful for the X,Y or Z paper- e.g. blogging & writing paper #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @chucksandy<\/a> I’ve found there are really great ways to take Ss “inside” exams, where teaching\/learning take precedence. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Have them examine the tests, then make their own projects and items for them, then ‘test’ each other! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHow important are the exams in your teaching context? Here there’s an obsession with taking them.We have 14yo taking CPE exams. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @KarenInGreece<\/a>: A lot of teachers also think it’s about practise, practise, practise and not about teaching language and skills. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nExam is a huge word here in Indonesia,it frightened my students lots of time, any suggestion on how to make the word ‘smaller’? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Have them examine the tests, then make their own projects and items for them, then ‘test’ each other! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> That’s outrageous, I guess. The CPE exam can be quite dense. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlarisa1113<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cioccas<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a>! Have you voted yet?\u00a0http:\/\/twtpoll.com\/1gwnaa<\/a> I have! Pleas vote and RT<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\ntheteacherjames<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> Absolutely crucial to know the exam – half of what we do is to teach them how to take the test, not just language. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> Jesus, how can a 14 yr old do CPE? It’s completely academic! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> I like that one too – have them write their own questions in the style of the exam & quiz classmates #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Love what you do with TOEFL – helping students get inside the exam. Can you share some insider tips & advice here? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nhere stds think they are only going to TALK…they forget on what @chucksandy<\/a> described as “familiarizing with exam”…#ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nExam prep\/stress is probably the biggest bugbear in our profession. Need to play that ball smarter, not harder. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> I work my exam classes hard I expect a lot and they need to deliver but I place emphasis on language not test #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> Perhaps familiarity with the exams, so they don’t seem so intimidating? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: I like to teach beyond the exam if they are working at band 7 IELTS then they will be comfortable for a 6.5 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> Yes, get ss to make up their own tests for each other is a great stimulus and fun for them!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> Yes, get ss to make up their own tests for each other is a great stimulus and fun for them!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> Yes, get ss to make up their own tests for each other is a great stimulus and fun for them! like \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> for the advanced tests (CAE, CPE) sts are given techniques on how to do the test. They do not “acquire” language at this point<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> I know many colleagues who can pass the foreign language exam in TRK but can’t speak one word as they learn the technique #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> @KarenInGreece<\/a> A 15 y\/o recently asked for my help to prepare for TOEFL! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: Exam prep\/stress is probably the biggest bugbear in our profession. Need to play that ball smarter, not harder. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> Basically, use a Task-based approach, and let the exam items and formats create some parameters. #ELTChat<\/a> (Too brief?)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Yes, I had 14 year-olds attempting CPE in Greece but they failed miserably -too immature at that age for the topics #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BrunoELT<\/a> They do acquire language, don’t they? I’m speaking for myself… I did when I was gearing myself up for the CPE. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ozsolmaz<\/a> I think that’s typical with tests in general (not just language learners) \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> and they can see the principle of the exam\/test formation \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: “I work exam classes hard I expect a lot & they need to deliver but I place emphasis on language not test” Right on! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> once i used ‘pop quiz’ for my high school class and gives chocolate for the best one, was that terrible? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> the TOEFL exam, local and international IBT #eltchat<\/a>…. which is easier?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nExams are tests of language if they have the language the test shouldn’t be an issue #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> I agree.They often don’t have the subject knowledge depth for that level (even in L1). #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> You know your students better than we do. Did it get your the results you wanted? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> Yeah, it’s not a matter of language most of the time, but maturity. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ozsolmaz<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> I’ve found the same – some students who have passed TOEFL or local exams but can hardly speak! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nNo student should EVER go into an exam cold I feel but they sometimes do!! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: “Basically use a Task-based approach, and let the exam items and formats create some parameters.”Nice! What else? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nGilMattos<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> University of Michigan ECCE and ECPE; TOEFL #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWhat do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lolonagi<\/a> I think that very much depends on the person who is taking them \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I agree! Sometimes they have an essay to write and they can’t even think of ideas for it in their L1! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> I agree – that would be much more appropriate and helpful for them. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I would question why they were there and advise them about waiting #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Teach them to have a good sense of humor and not judge their worth based on the results \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Teach them to have a good sense of humor and not judge their worth based on the results \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA couple of links\/resources coming… 1st up. Notion of using Cambridge YLE materials as course material!\u00a0 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Bugbear it is… and smart we need. i’m curious… do you prepare more IELTS in Australia, or TOEIC, TOEFL? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\ni am sometimes sad to see that some of my colleagues find exam classes too SERIOUS to make fun and play there \ud83d\ude41 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: Exams are tests of language if they have the language the test shouldn’t be an issue #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nshould we also talk about the GRE when Ss take it or it’s just overwhelming #eltchat<\/a> \ud83d\ude09<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> Of course, can a 14 yr old write exam task type pieces in L1? They have never had to do so usually #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAnother thing, we as teachers should tell our students not to do an exam if they are not ready for it. It’s happened to me. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> Good question – it makes it v hard for everyone. Get that student to do online quizzes for exam?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> I sympathise I would hate to be asked to write an IELTS essay! \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> I agree, maturity is a big issue here #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI have to come out of the closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> TEACHING UNPLUGGED is by far the best way to approach exams. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: Another thing, we as teachers should tell our students not to do an exam if they are not ready for it. It’s happened to me. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> yes, but i felt like i’m buying them off to liking it! hahahahaha #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrepublicofmath<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSee\u00a0http:\/\/wp.me\/p1mk0j<\/a>-MN @rliberni<\/a> #Exams<\/a> are tests of #language<\/a>; if they have language, test shouldn’t be issue #eltchat<\/a> #mathchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> it’s good for sts to start up from the very first tests so that when they get to the advanced ones they are confident enough<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: Another thing, we as teachers should tell our students not to do an exam if they are not ready for it. It’s happened to me. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> sts not at the level – w\/YLs try to spk to parents, but in spain v.diff to dissuade sts from FCE (The Holy Grail) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: I have to come out of closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education #eltchat<\/a> Me too<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfiandjo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> Focus on the distractors and items being tested is essential. Teachers (and students) should know the exam in depth.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> Australia is huge on IELTS, TOEFL gaining some traction, TOEIC a no-show. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> also important to know how much they are motivated…and if they realise they need to work more #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> If you were in the closet about that one then you’re not very good at keeping a secret \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BrunoELT<\/a> and they theoretically know what it’s all about… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: I have to come out of the closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@waykatewit<\/a> In some exams in Turkey, they don’t test speaking or writing at all! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> have u ever used it? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: I have to come out of the closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@NikkiFortova<\/a> absolutely I would never advise anybody to go into an exam without some practice but language is the key #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nProblem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @KarenInGreece<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> I agree, maturity is a big issue here #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> How would that be different? Teaching unplugged… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vladkaslniecko<\/a> Our attitude is essential! We need to show our Ss that exams are important but they shouldn’t be afraid of them #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBobK99<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSorry I’m late for #eltchat<\/a>. Not ignoring you, but catching up<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat<\/a> a>gree<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> have u ever used it? #ELTChat<\/a>| Yes, in class and for stds to do at home<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> @davedodgson<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> good point, Brad! Motivation is crucial!#ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThats the spirit! RT @du_siemens<\/a>: @BrunoELT<\/a> and they theoretically know what it’s all about… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI think we need to let them know that it’s not merely results that we look for but the fact that exam is a way for them to practice #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: LOL I suppose i have been rather vocal over the years about my anti-exam activities, haven’t I? ^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nJapan too! RT @ozsolmaz<\/a>: @waykatewit<\/a> In some exams in Turkey, they don’t test speaking or writing at all! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nsome sts only see the certificate at the end important rather than the process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> @chucksandy<\/a> I AGREE we’re at the stage where if it moves test it! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n‘The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one’\u00a0 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yes, I recall hearing Aussie accents on the IELTS prep materials all the time when I last did it! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: ‘The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one’\u00a0#ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BobK99<\/a> Welcome! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: some sts only see the cert at end important rather than process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat<\/a> Exactly<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nExam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: some sts only see the certificate at the end important rather than the process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> Just a bit \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> But I think it’s our roles as teachers to show them how much progress they’re making. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @lolonagi<\/a>: RT @michelleworgan<\/a>: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat<\/a> a>gree<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> thats good point but some students can hardly fine time to come to the classes let alone studying outside the class #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> I find it v difficult to find time to play\/have fun though \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> It’s only the dark side of our lot if we let it be… Teachers have more influence here than they think\/allow. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> @chucksandy<\/a> the dark side! but also very motivating in lots of ways. And doesn’t always need to be trad. teaching #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @chucksandy<\/a> It’s only the dark side of our lot if we let it be… Teachers have more influence here than they think\/allow. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ozsolmaz<\/a> OMG! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nGetting exam prep students to be responsible for themselves for passing exam is crucial – outside activities should be the norm #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> oft the case with IELTS after the exam all stops even though at band 6 they’re not ready 2 do a degree in English!! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a> “How would Teaching unplugged be different?” Teaching naturally what needs to be taught.Going for tteaching moments. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @BrunoELT<\/a>: RT @michelleworgan<\/a>: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I’m not sure if I agree. Do you know that task in which they have four different texts and 15 questions? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> yes, agree, if they don’t have the linguistic resources strategies won’t make up for that. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> excellent.I have met some students who dont want fun stuff or break. They want you to keep teaching though. really! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @BrunoELT<\/a>: RT @michelleworgan<\/a>: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> But IELTS is increasingly being used as a standard for local job & university applications, same as TOEFL #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nLet’s not forget, these exams are potentially life-changing, so our own preferences\/ideals have to often take a back seat. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: some sts only see the certificate at the end important rather than the process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> That’s a very good point. I might do it one of these days… I tend to plan everything beforehand. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> teaching 4 an exam can often mean freedom from following the coursebook as well – v.involved w\/sts immediate needs = focus on sts<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nhere,exams always mean testing your grammar when i feel like it narrowed them to only study one part only leaving listening abandon #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @waykatewit<\/a>: @ozsolmaz<\/a> OMG! #ELTChat<\/a> << love the reaction but it is true \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> And don’t forget, it’s some parents who only see the certificate regardless of their child’s abilities #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> @janetbianchini<\/a> me too, but I use at least the time when repeating or recycling to play and have fun :)) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat<\/a> – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThe hardest thing to deal with here in Salvador is when U have classes with ss who R willing to take the exam and ss who are not… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nExam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat<\/a> (bread and butter for a lot of teachers)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat<\/a> – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat<\/a> – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat<\/a> (bread and butter for a lot of teachers)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat<\/a> – ge? (cont)\u00a0http:\/\/deck.ly\/<\/a>~YxKl6<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a>: agree. Ts have enormous influence on how Ss perceive exams & thus on how Ss perceive themselves #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: @englishraven<\/a>: agree. Ts have enormous influence on how Ss perceive exams & thus on how Ss perceive themselves #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Many people I work with see little point to the YL exams. Do you think they testing at that age serves a purpose? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Yep. I photocopy each text and I blow them up. I put each 1 on a different wall and give ss the questions. Dynamic. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @KarenInGreece<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> And don’t forget, it’s some parents who only see the certificate regardless of their child’s abilities #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat<\/a> (bread and butter for a lot of teachers) Yes #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat<\/a> – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @KarenInGreece<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> And don’t forget, it’s some parents who only see the certificate regardless of their child’s abilities #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> I think we need to do it, you know? Doing exercises in class is way different from actually taking the live exam. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Yes. I find those tests about as good as can be managed for YLs. Handled right, they can be positive. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nexam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. take in use of english part 1,2,3 or 4 & get 2 hrs from it focusing on gaps \/ topic etc. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> but teachers can make the difference between drudgery and excitement – use the exam to perform & demo ur great English! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Yep. I photocopy each text and I blow them up. I put each 1 on a different wall and give ss the questions. Dynamic. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> the confidence factor is undoubtably positive when sts take exams. Often they come to me and say “I didnt know I knew that much”<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nKids’ English and Exams–it’s what parents are willing to pay for even in bad economy \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat<\/a> – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @BrunoELT<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> the confidence factor is undoubtably positive when sts take exams. Often they come to me and say “I didnt know I knew that much”<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: teachers can make the difference between drudgery and excitement – use the exam to perform & demo ur great English! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Not much point but the kids actually enjoy them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: @janetbianchini<\/a> I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> exam=life changing .That is exactly why some are afraid of it \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHello everyone and thanks to ye wondrful mods @englishraven<\/a> @riberni<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> – sorry am late just out of a TP fb #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> not to mention that they are also practicing for future exams such as FCE, CAE e CPE… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Using www.fotobabble 4 speaking tests is an gr8tool #ELTChat<\/a> -gets sts speaking for 1m on a phot of choice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> like a mock exam yes I used to – I now do mostly 1:1 more like coaching #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> Right. One of the T’s key challenges is to confront and reduce that fear. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> So you’ll give me a pass on my homework? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I missed you here. Glad to see you back. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. take in use of english part 1,2,3 or 4 & get 2 hrs from it focusing on gaps \/ topic etc. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> YLE exams give a nice focus but I can’t get the money-making thought out of my head when I teach them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. #eltchat<\/a> > I like this idea \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nhttp:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4t4dymb<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> Nice ideas here for using this simple tool!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: @janetbianchini<\/a> I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Hi Marisa welcome we’re really getting our teeth into exams here! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat<\/a> (bread and butter for a lot of teachers)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>:\u00a0http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4t4dymb<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> Nice ideas here for using this simple tool!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> and that’s exactly why others love them! \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> That’s why I only used to use them in-house. \ud83d\ude42 Never sent my kids to take the official versions. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> Sometimes I see exam prep course as way too boring! What do you guys do to change it?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Same here – do they really need three levels in order to get them ‘ready’ for future tests? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: RT @rliberni<\/a>: @janetbianchini<\/a> I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> HI Marisa – great to see you #ELTChat<\/a> exam classes – fast and furious as ever!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BrunoELT<\/a> Maybe teaching unplugged as @chucksandy<\/a> has mentioned? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @bcnpaul1<\/a> Maybe u should write an unplugged exam class blogpost ;P #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> I find the speaking is way to easy while the reading\/writing is quite demanding #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> @du_siemens<\/a> #eltchat<\/a>@barbsaka<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> hi and thanks!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHow? I missed that tweet RT @du_siemens<\/a>: @BrunoELT<\/a> Maybe teaching unplugged as @chucksandy<\/a> has mentioned? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Hi Marisa! #eltchat<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> HI Marisa – great to see you #ELTChat<\/a> exam classes – fast and furious as ever!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Already have!\u00a0 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI have always told my students that test are merely another one of those exam prep we do every now and then #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> give a helping hand Janet – missed the start of this #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> Yes, employers love to use test scores as criteria here, even in goverment jobs #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: Don’t forget, these exams are can b life-changing, so our own preferences\/ideals have to often take a back seat. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BrunoELT<\/a> … and I’m lost with so many tweets, trying to keep up with ’em. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> In YL exams they always pass the speaking – I think it is important that the younger ones do well though #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: ‘The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one’\u00a0#ELTChat<\/a> @BrunoELT<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> Hi Simon we’re here again – talking about exam classes what’s your take? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> nice idea! Don’t they ever ask “mr.englishraven – when do we take the ‘real’ test?” #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @yitzha_sarwono<\/a> I smtms do that by showing them the not-so-perfect responses of some . ss to show they CAN do better #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nCan I ask you guys something I’m passionate about? What about speaking? Do we really train our students to do the speaking paper? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> actually it was @englishraven<\/a> 1st mentioned unplugged exam prep. Trick is: convincing Ss it works! It does of course #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Must have missed that one! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSo do i! RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. #eltchat<\/a> > I like this idea \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI love teaching exam classes because motivation for me to get them to pass is very high – so maybe my enthusiasm spurs ss on? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> I would say yes as they are stylised & students need to know what to expect #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: I love teaching exam classes because motivation for me to get them to pass is very high – so maybe my enthusiasm spurs ss on? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> So does mine… I’m sure. They get all excited… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nfollowing, but havent taught exam classes before #eltchat<\/a> \ud83d\ude00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> hmmm exams unplugged – now there’s an idea \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> hmmm exams unplugged – now there’s an idea \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> I’m not sure if I understand. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThe potential vagueness\/looseness of Dogme and the constrained\/contrived nature of exams actually make for a positive mix… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> I agree I always enjoyed them too they do up your game! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I just feel\/know that most of my students are capable of a lot more when speaking – it’s their strongest skill #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> We are discussing approaches to exam classes – how to motivate etc #ELTChat<\/a> + strategies<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> actually it was @englishraven<\/a> 1st mentioned unplugged exam prep. Trick is: convincing Ss it works! It does of course #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: “Basically use a Task-based approach, and let the exam items and formats create some parameters.” #eltchat<\/a> > agree<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> it depends… many ss are better at receptive skills #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIn dogme\/unplugged exam prep, Ss have to see they’re making progress: writing more fluently over time, speaking w\/ more fluency… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: I love teaching exam classes because motivation for me to get them to pass is very high – so maybe my enthusiasm spurs ss on? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> re speaking I think stds should be prepared for this too! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfiandjo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nexams have 2 b looked at differently depending on whether formative or summative; diff psychological effects + practical purposes #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: In dogme\/unplugged exam prep, Ss have to see they’re making progress: writing more fluently over time, speaking w\/ more fluency… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nDo you use past papers? If so, how? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWhat is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> Yes I train mine for the speaking exams. Take them through the stages and teach them skills eg interrupting politely #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@waykatewit<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> Yes, I agree. In Asia, the YLs do much better with reading than listening\/speaking. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> That’s what I do… and it makes wonder. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @fiandjo<\/a>: exams have 2 b looked at differently depending on whether formative or summative; diff psychological effects + practical purposes #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> thanks Janet – loads of great ideas here abt using TBL and the dogmeists are here too \ud83d\ude00 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nas English is usually fun for students , they get anxious when it comes to exams ! I do my best in order 2 relax them before exams #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBobK99<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> Yup. I’ve never had an exam class, but obv. best prep for a p-&-p exam. But what about online exms? #eltchat<\/a> (@barbaska<\/a> – Thx.)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat<\/a> > Utterly dire<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\ntasoulazac<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: RT @michelleworgan<\/a>: What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@stevenherder<\/a> of @MASHinEFL<\/a> is doing wonderful unplugged fluency work in IBT classes. He’s a great resource. Paul Nation, too #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I think students like to have something to refer to so coursebooks are a good idea but not the b all & end all #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI find it very difficult to find an exam book that takes just 1 school year #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Most of the exam prep books are pretty bloody awful, to be honest. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> It’s the opposite with kids in Turkey! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BrunoELT<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> it depends on a viewpoint – if u go to class overplanned & laden with \/bks & practice tests it’s stifling #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Hi Berni, I’m just reading through. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> It could be used as a reference and dipped in and out of #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> It depends on the coursebook. I use some good ones that teach students the exam, skills needed, general skills etc #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sedayyildirim<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> Yes, relaxing techniques are very useful + tips on how to deal with problem areas etc<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Books take sme topics (&vocab etc) as exams so they become just as boring #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThe best exam prep c\/books I’ve seen have come from OUP and Grant Trew (for TOEIC). Make a dud exam almost feel enjoyable! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nBobK99: how would pencil \/ paper vs online exams make a difference in how students prepare? Unplugged works for either. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> It depends on the book! Some are just page after page of sample questions, which gets a bit dry after a while #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: The best exam prep c\/books I’ve seen have come from OUP and Grant Trew (for TOEIC). Make a dud exam almost feel enjoyable! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nBut of course I supplement them with my own material! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Many schools give Ts Loads of Books to keep the Ss busy – I think exam class marketing is a bit of a scam for many schls #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> It could be used as a reference and dipped in and out of #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> Many schools give Ts Loads of Books to keep the Ss busy – I think exam class marketing is a bit of a scam for many schls #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I do – as sources of questions \ud83d\ude42 I often need several texts\/lectures on, eg, biology -for 1 stud- past papers help #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: BobK99: how would pencil \/ paper vs online exams make a difference in how students prepare? Unplugged works for either. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> I agree – OUP are my fave for exam books #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Others are essentially regular coursebooks with the odd exam-style question thrown in. as always, we need balance! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> Many schools give Ts Loads of Books to keep the Ss busy – I think exam class marketing is a bit of a scam for many schls #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Yes, often schools charge more for exam classes! It’s still 90mins of a teachers time though! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAnd teachers who are doing a good job – building skills before building exam taking skills – are not favoured #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> Cambridge have done some good ones for IELTS as well, come to think of it… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOver here, we use FCE, CAE and CPE Gold… which can be quite difficult if u don’t pick and choose what u find essential 4 ss. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> the same in Russia – academic teaching at universities is the cause #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: And teachers who are doing a good job – building skills before building exam taking skills – are not favoured #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\ntheteacherjames<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: The potential vagueness\/looseness of Dogme and the constrained\/contrived nature of exams actually make for a positive mix… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlingliziya<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> also today am going to use sample answers for writing and give Ss the bands to get them to grade it themselves<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> RT @englishraven<\/a>: agree. Grant Trew’s Tactics for TOEIC is a real gem. His communicative approach works for all exams #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: And teachers who are doing a good job – building skills before building exam taking skills – are not favoured #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nExam course books are useful for dipping in and out of = time saving for busy teachers!! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> and what would be a basic difference between them? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I would use past papers for a mock or as stds get near to exam not before to I know tchrs who use them every lesson #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> I usually just compile problems from many books as many that i found here in Indonesia quite hard to implant #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Yes. I have lots of books with mocks here… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lingliziya<\/a> Good idea! The problem with past papers is that some teachers just give them out then review them. More must be done! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> Once you know the tests, it’s worth exploring how to approach them unplugged or task-based. \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOne positive thing Cmbridge have done is introduce PET and KET for schools, for younger candidates – much more relevant for them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nso, what about explaining some grammar or problematic areas to Ss in exams classes, do u go 4 it? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a> schools give Ts loads of books > and expect eternal gratitude for the generosity & cr@p<\/a> wages in return \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I also feel that if the answers are in the back they may as well do them at home & then ask about any probs #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\ntheteacherjames<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a> Most of the exam prep books are pretty bloody awful, to be honest. #ELTChat<\/a> – but can be cherry picked for handy e.g.s<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nTeach exam classes using exam past papers can be amazing. I’ve downloaded more than 16 full mocks for each exam… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> You don’t have to prepare for an exam exclusively by practising it. The mix means you get a near normal coursebook. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSome books though are tedious and boring. I’m expected to follow the books, although I spend a lot of time adapting\/changing them! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> I use them but the most important part is breaking it down and giving feedback afterwards #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> You don’t have to prepare for an exam exclusively by practising it. The mix means you get a near normal coursebook. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> Can you suggest the books? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> unlike gener. courses, NEVER rely on 1 courseb. – they make simple things complex, not enough of anyting #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a> schools give Ts loads of books > and expect eternal gratitude for the generosity & cr@p<\/a> wages in return \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> our textbooks try to incorporate the feeling of exams with similar questions but without the boredom www.learningfactory.net<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> Well, as near normal as any coursebook can be hehe #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @yitzha_sarwono<\/a>: @KarenInGreece<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> Can you suggest the books? #eltchat<\/a>>grea<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> … and what would be the advantage of doing it this way? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlingliziya<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> am using the Cambridge Complete PET and CAE. Do u know them? thoughts? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIf we create the right activities during the prep course we don’t need to use past papers for mocks until the real test gets closer #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> Where did u get them? Did u pay for them? #eltchat<\/a> Cmbrdge are mean and only let u have one for free!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nozsolmaz<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nmy sts came to the office, i had\/have to leave the chat. great discussion. i will follow it later on #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> Let’s not forget, general CB writers have to deal with exams as much as anyone else! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lolonagi<\/a> absolutley I don’t see a real diff btwn exam & non exam except in the direction if they need to know it then they need it #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nsometimes even a simple exam course book can be a trouble in terms of extra information or unfamiliar items #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Ah-Ra. If I tell you, I’ll probably have to kill you. RS. (whispering) I’ll DM you. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> can you suggest any? re:prep books #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lingliziya<\/a> No, but think I’ve used the IELTS one in the same general series? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> A course which prepares for real life langauge use as well as the exam. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nFor speaking Paper 5 FCE get ss to choose 2 of their own pictures to compare and contrast- then stick up round walls 4 all to do #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOne pet hate of mine is when regular coursebooks, readers etc start labelling themselves as ‘suitable for ExamX candidates!2 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\ndoes anyone know a school that pays t’s more for teaching exam classes? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: @michelleworgan<\/a> Ah-Ra. If I tell you, I’ll probably have to kill you. RS. (whispering) I’ll DM you. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> A course which prepares for real life langauge use as well as the exam. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sedayyildirim<\/a>: sometimes even a simple exam course book can be a trouble in terms of extra information or unfamiliar items #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> Which exam are we talking about? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> Ah. Now it’s perfectly clear to me. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: One pet hate of mine is when regular coursebooks, readers etc start labelling themselves as ‘suitable for ExamX candidates!2 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> The one I work for, doesn’t… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> It’s called ‘having your cake and eating it’ \ud83d\ude09 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Haha good joke! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Most of the schools I worked for in Asia paid more for TOEFL\/TOEIC teachers. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Don’t be a coward… I’d never do such thing… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> It’s called ‘having your cake and eating it’ \ud83d\ude09 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncybraryman1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nMy Study Skills page for students to organize & prepare for tests:\u00a0http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4lvjadz<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> Most of the schools I worked for in Asia paid more for TOEFL\/TOEIC teachers. #ELTChat<\/a> > Spread the word!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nVery anti-exam, but love those movies like Stand & Deliver where T helps Ss rise to the challenge & they succeed. ^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> exactly it’s the post mortem that counts then you have to go back to the teaching bit #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cybraryman1<\/a>: My Study Skills page for students to organize & prepare for tests:http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4lvjadz<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> No, does that actually exist? We get paid monthly though, not hourly #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: Very anti-exam, but love those movies like Stand & Deliver where T helps Ss rise to the challenge & they succeed. ^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAnd yet we give up a lot of extra time for exam classes – extra unpaid marking, Saturday lessons, accompanying them to exams… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> I think the trick is blending in the exam prep without it being too noticeable, but nonetheless helping prepare. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nDo exam prep teachers enjoy more respect\/recognition in your setting? Is this considered more demanding than other teaching? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Absolutely right. ‘It ain’t rocket science’ quote \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> Maybe it’s anti-exam but it’s definitely motivating! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nit’s always unfair to us poor teachers \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @englishraven<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> Most of the schools I worked for in Asia paid more for TOEFL\/TOEIC teachers. #ELTChat<\/a> > Spread the word!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAccording to @englishraven<\/a> and @barbsaka<\/a>, we still have 01:20 to go… #ELTChat<\/a> (LOL).<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Do exam prep teachers enjoy more respect\/recognition in your setting? Considered more demanding than other teaching? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> Definitely. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> I agree I don’t like exams but if it’s their choice for whatever reason we have to support them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @bcnpaul1<\/a> In all honesty, when I raised my hand and said I would take the TOEIC class in my 1st year of teaching… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI personally feel that ts doing exam classe have to work harder, but they probably don’t get paid more in most teaching situations?#ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Do exam prep teachers enjoy more respect\/recognition in your setting? Considered more demanding than other teaching? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Not here in Spain – all Ts are expected to teach exam classes, however little experience they have #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> I personally love exams. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cybraryman1<\/a>: My Study Skills page for students to organize & prepare for tests:http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4lvjadz<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> we’ve done it w\/ Interchange & Passages-labeled them good for TOEIC etc but only after massive research & revision. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @bcnpaul1<\/a> … it changed my teaching career and prospects HUGELY from that point on. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> @sedayyildirim<\/a> has anybody else found that TOEFL and IELTS cours. explain simple things in a complic. way? (exam strat.) #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Exams have very little to do with the student or the teacher. There’s a third party involved, school, employer etc #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> How so? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> great question when I did classroom teaching you definitely got kudos for being a CPE teacher #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> Nice quote! \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> the opposite happens here in Egypt #eltchat<\/a>, you should have a good exprinc<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@FiksiminiBekasi<\/a> ada sih, tp lagi sibuk #eltchat<\/a> dulu ya? kerjaan nih hehehehe<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: @rliberni<\/a> Exams have very little to do with the student or the teacher. There’s a third party involved, school, employer etc #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBobK99<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nselfRT w\/tag : They(‘d – theor. for me) need to have some famlrity with the look and feel? Otherwise, they’re at a time-disadv… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> the majority is also anti-exam I think =) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nrliberni @chucksandy<\/a> “if it’s their choice … we have to support them” Not sure I agree.Isn’t it worth fighting the system a bit? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> I agree mostly but there are a few stds who want to test themselves against the recognised bench marks #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> yes, definitely. Some cannot do it #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvladkaslniecko<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nspeaking of SS autonomy… @brad5patterson<\/a> has helped develop e-learning apps to help students prepare 4 exams www.edulang.com #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @SimonGreenall<\/a>: @rliberni<\/a> Exams have very little to do with the student or the teacher. There’s a third party involved, school, employer etc #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> Employability and leverage… Schools are careful not to p*%s off their exam prep teacher with runs on the board! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> taking or teaching? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nDo u do mock exams in class? So that stds know how to pace themselves? I do, especially near the exam date #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Both. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Yes, I agree. But most students do exams because they have to. Someone else makes them. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> they do get paid more in Russia #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nanyone read Tim Murphy’s “The Tail That Wags?” It’s a brilliant anti-testing book w\/ strategies for the anti exam activists^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yes, that’s true… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@waykatewit<\/a> Not teaching either right now, but it sounds possible \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@SimonGreenall<\/a> yes and it’s getting worse I think #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> You’re right, there are a lot of students who do like exams and\/or really want to work towards them. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> @SimonGreenall<\/a> it’s a need both for teachers and the students . #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: anyone read Tim Murphy’s “The Tail That Wags?” It’s a brilliant anti-testing book w\/ strategies for the anti exam activists^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @vladkaslniecko<\/a>: speaking of SS autonomy… @brad5patterson<\/a> has helped develop e-learning apps to help students prepare 4 exams www.edulang.com #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Funnily enough, when teaching in a context that used portfolios gone wild, I almost missed exams… \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nargyre<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI am on seafood diet! I only eat when I see food \ud83d\ude42 #elt<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> #esl<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Yes, definitely! MOck exams are very useful as a preparation for real deal #ELTChat<\/a>\ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> in indonesia, it’s a privilege to be exam prep teacher cause i can assure you that it’s not gonna be walking on sunshine! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWe used to have stds in one whole afternoon to do an FCE mock so they would know how it was to do all 4 papers on same day #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> yes, we did a mock exams with the exam classes last week to give us and them an idea of whether they are ready. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\njuanalejandro82<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\none more wednesday… I’ve just gotten up and I already have to leave. but I want to know what today’s topic is on #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHow far do u think u need to be familiar with the detailed assessment objectives of each part of an exam to be able to teach it? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\ntasoulazac<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> we do mock exams every month.It really helps. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sedayyildirim<\/a> I would say requirement rather than need but we’re stuck with it #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Pretty far, I reckon. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI also do mock exams around Feb\/march before the June enrolment date so they (and I) can see a realistic score #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI think that students’ attitude towards exams has a lot to do with how we see and teach them. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> one thing I mock all the time is speaking. A regular task at each & every lesson. Heps #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> cud u give us the link 2 the book? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: anyone read Tim Murphy’s “The Tail That Wags?” It’s a brilliant anti-testing book w\/ strategies for the anti exam activists^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> in some respects they’re easier for us I think (less paperwork) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> I think familiarity with a test is important–like becoming familiar with different types of reading graphics #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> fighting the system- yes. Fighting against what sts want- no. IELTS to get a better life elsewhere for example #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAs anti as I am, I realize exams aren’t going away. Best we can do is convince Ss they aren’t test scores, that they matter more #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> Absolutely. That’d be unrealistic to have students take the exam without knowing what it’s like in real life. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Good point! I think we as teachers need to be very familiar with the finer details to help our ss to pass #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>:I think familiarity with a test is important–like becoming familiar with different types of reading graphics #eltchat<\/a> Gd point<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I think the more you are familiar the better you can instruct your students towards a better achievement! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nGreece is a very exam happy country – is yours? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: I think that students’ attitude towards exams has a lot to do with how we see and teach them. #ELTChat<\/a> > absolutely<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @BrunoELT<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> I think the more you are familiar the better you can instruct your students towards a better achievement! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Better with familiarity, but possible without \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> I absolutley agree I think you shld see exams as an opportunity to demonstrate your greatness and not be cowed by them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Better with familiarity, but possible without \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@waykatewit<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> yeap , I sometimes come acroos with this , complicated ways are choosen or the reverse . #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> I absolutley agree I think you shld see exams as an opportunity to demonstrate your greatness and not be cowed by them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @BrunoELT<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> I think the more you are familiar the better you can instruct your students towards a better achievement! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\na_ahmad<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> never taught toefl\/toeic, but a moderate familiarity is needed. too specific means teaching test-taking, not english #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nlolonagi: Tim Murhphy’s book is referenced here:\u00a0http:\/\/mashcollaboration.com\/blog\/<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Good point! I think we as teachers need to be very familiar with the finer details to help our ss to pass #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> absolutely! I try to be optimistic and focused myself – watever my students’ ability\/starting level. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @rliberni<\/a>: @du_siemens<\/a> I absolutley agree I think you shld see exams as an opportunity to demonstrate your greatness and not be cowed by them #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Oh yes, Turkey has an exam for almost everything! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nJapan, yes! RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Greece is a very exam happy country – is yours? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vladkaslniecko<\/a> thnx V \ud83d\ude42 we do “test simulators”… kind of like what I was sayin to @du_siemens<\/a>about the disco \ud83d\ude42 cheers #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @BrunoELT<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> I think the more you are familiar the better you can instruct your students towards a better achievement! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIf you say: “OMG, you’re really taking this exam? It’s REALLY difficult”. Students freak out. Try a lighter one, LOL. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> 4 country like Indonesia,very important 2get very far with knowing the detail.SS here expect u to know all #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: fighting the system- yes. Fighting against what sts want- no. Good point.My fight’s against the system. Cram schools #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@waykatewit<\/a> That’s the spirit. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> not really \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Yes! More students take the FCE exam in Greece than in any other countries in Europe #ELTChat<\/a> I did 3 months just FCE with 50 ss<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @chucksandy<\/a>: lolonagi: Tim Murhphy’s book is referenced here:http:\/\/mashcollaboration.com\/blog\/<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nFamiliarity with a test saves Ss time. If they are familiarized, they don’t need to waste valuable time in reading the instructions #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Too right they are (easier)! Portfolios are great until you have to manage 100s of them in your own unpaid time #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHave you ever used exam reports for learner training? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIn Spain they have exams for any state job, they just love them! You can’t do anything without a certificate #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbymth<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @larisa1113<\/a>: RT @cioccas<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a>! Have you voted yet?http:\/\/twtpoll.com\/1gwnaa<\/a> I have! Pleas vote and RT<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Have you ever used exam reports for learner training? #ELTchat<\/a> > yes, with the YLEs. Quite useful.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@brad5patterson<\/a> I love teaching IELTS 1:1 you can really get under the skin of the exam &show how stds can improve their perf. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBobK99<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> RT:@Marisa_C<\/a> Good point! I think we as teachers need to be very familiar… Hence my pt abt o\/l prep for o\/lexams<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Have you ever used exam reports for learner training? #ELTchat<\/a> > yes, with the YLEs. Quite useful.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Not much, they are too general – if they gave us country specific reports that might help more #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\noyajimbo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nJust gave my student her FCE cert tonight. Priceless. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>:Yes! More students take the FCE exam in Greece than in anywhere in Europe #ELTChat<\/a> I did 3 months just FCE with 50 ss<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\njuanalejandro82<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> yes! so they can notice what their weaknesses are<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @rliberni<\/a> Plus it’s easier for perspective employers to view a score than browse a life’s collection of work! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> here,since the change of education system,it’s been hard to deal with exam especially for listening.Grammar’s cool though #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHow so? RT @waykatewit<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> not really \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI really get upset for some of my students as I have to evaluate them by common ones #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Or if they gave proper feedback on exam result statements rather than just “excellent, good, borderline and weak” #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> aaah! cram schools. Used to get JHS sts come to my english class after hours of cram class. they’d sit there motionless #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSo maybe some teachers (and students) like exam classes because there’s measurable accomplishment? (as opposed to general Eng) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA task-based TOEFL coursebook has been on my radar for several years now. Just don’t think publishers would be interested. \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> just here for last 10 minutes -shame as I introduced the topic!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cintiastella<\/a>: Familiarity with a test saves Ss time. When familiarized, they don’t need to waste time in reading instructions #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: In Spain they have exams for any state job, they just love them! You can’t do anything without a certificate #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @rliberni<\/a> Too right they are (easier)! Portfolios are great until you have to manage 100s of them in your own unpaid time #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nStds choose exam classes because they have extrinsic motivation only – need cert to get job later #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> I’ve had good success there too, especially w\/ chinese students, who as mentioned here before, r challenged w\/ oral exams #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> there is both necessity and obligation #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> Great topic choice Sandy \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\noyajimbo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’d say Japan exam-unhappy. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> You can add the comment that puts it all in perspective…and catch up with the summary later \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBobK99<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> Japan, yes! RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Greece is a very exam happy country – is yours? #ELTchat<\/a>UK state systm (not ELT) v exam<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> Thanks for your faith in me! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIt is an unfortunate attidtude to lang learning – only the result is important not the process #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> my sts complain that after taking Cambridge exams they do not get any feedback from Cambridge! I reckon this is very important<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> IELTS,TOEIC and standard indonesian high school final exam #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> ‘Must-knows’ for Indonesian teachers of English? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> My YLs don’t even have that – usually, the parents sign them up #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBrunoELT<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWhat do u mean and how? RT @rliberni<\/a>: RT @englishraven<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: exam reports for learner training? #ELTchat<\/a> yes, with the YLEs. Useful<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @BrunoELT<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> I think the more you are familiar the better you can instruct your students towards a better achievement! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> some of them are keen on criteriums \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BrunoELT<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> hoever, both in Ukr and Russia they seem to perceive exams as the inevitable evil \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Oh yes, with YLs it’s always the parents. But YLs usually have more intrinsic motivation, at least in primary years #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: So maybe some teachers (and students) like exam classes because there’s measurable accomplishment? (as opposed to general Eng) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lingliziya<\/a> Do you and your Ss enjoy using that material? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBobK99<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> …RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Greece is a very exam happy ctry – is yours? #ELTchat<\/a> UK state sys (not ELT) v exam-happy: If it moves examine it<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> Don’t know if you’ve talked about this yet – how do you train new teachers to know how to mark speaking \/ writing?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nchucksandy<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\ngotta pop out to finish packing for TESOL Arabia. Thanks for a good chat all! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: So maybe some teachers (and students) like exam classes because there’s measurable accomplishment? (as opposed to general Eng) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @michelleworgan<\/a>: I also do mock exams around Feb\/march before the June enrolment date so they (and I) can see a realistic score #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sedayyildirim<\/a> Sort of like someone put it through a translator and back again? #eltchat<\/a> (complex out of simple)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@oyajimbo<\/a> I’m not advocating exams it was a bit tongue in cheek the problem with ELT students is they’re often transient #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nmy biggest gripe is that however motivating an exam is, so many sts pass it then quit studying & learning… so what was the point? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: my biggest gripe is that however motivating an exam is, so many sts pass it then quit studying & learning… so what was the point? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: my biggest gripe is that however motivating an exam is, so many sts pass it then quit studying & learning… so what was the point? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Same here. Need exams for almost all jobs #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Reasonable gripe, I think \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> I also have that sadness – but they come back later!! I get them and it’s a great shame #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@oyajimbo<\/a> Yes, in theory. But this shouldn’t happen based on teacher’s unpaid time. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> I agree – it’s get the cert and that’s done, not a very enlightened attitude really #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> only when you’re teaching in an english course where students expect you to make them pass all ^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> I tell my SS – 4 personal development. it broadens outlook dramatically if handled properly – broader discussions etc #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> Yes, I have to admit that’s not a fun feeling (Ss say goodbye as soon as they get the score they need)… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@chucksandy<\/a> have a great trip mr.Sandy and hope you rock TESOL arabia! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nrliberni<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHave to shoot – what a great discussion and a grade A for moderators @barbsaka<\/a> , @englishraven<\/a> and @Marisa_C<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> By observing more experienced teachers maybe? By shadowing them in a mock exam situation -this is a good way to learn #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cintiastella<\/a> Although they shouldn’t forget to read questions! Some of my SS think they know what to do, bt don’t answer properly #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@yitzha_sarwono<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> OUP has good books. Proficiency Masterclass for CPE is good #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sandymillin<\/a>: @cintiastella<\/a> Although they shouldn’t forget to read questions! Some of my SS think they know what to do, bt don’t answer properly #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> Seeya – thanks for the great moderation, as per usual! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA+ for @rliberni<\/a>! Have to shoot – what a great discussion and a grade A for moderators @barbsaka<\/a> , @englishraven<\/a> and @Marisa_C<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\ndu_siemens<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nGotta go… spent last night at the hospital due to my throat. Can barely speak. See you guys and thank you for another wonderful #ELTChat<\/a>.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @bcnpaul1<\/a> Yes, I have to admit that’s not a fun feeling (Ss say goodbye as soon as they get the score they need)… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: I think that students’ attitude towards exams has a lot to do with how we see and teach them. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> @rliberni<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> if it wasn’t for that one small thing, I’d love exams!! \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @rliberni<\/a> Seeya – thanks for the great moderation, as per usual! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> Think observation is a good idea. My problem was always the finer distinctions between marks. Pass \/ fail no prob #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlingliziya<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> to be honest i HAVE to use the book. it’s a school rule, but from nxt sept i’m gonna use the book differently<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIs it over already? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> Hearing a few people say positive things about OUP’s exam prep stuff. They’re doing some good stuff online, too. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> @cintiastella<\/a> The appearance of extra answers on matching questions always throws my YLs! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> I have to admit I’m not that keen on exam classes because of the pressure of having to fit in so much in little time #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nthanks! @KarenInGreece<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nTOEICtestBrasil<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @du_siemens<\/a>: I think that students’ attitude towards exams has a lot to do with how we see and teach them. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nYou can achieve a great bond with an exam class because they all have common goal – have had lovely groups in the past #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\noyajimbo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> as an examiner trainer, teachers need classroom experience first #eltchat<\/a> bit chicken\/egg?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @bcnpaul1<\/a> and recommend you to other students who come and say hi \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> Maybe my main reason for not enjoying them is that stds expect me to do all the work and for them to pass! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@du_siemens<\/a> get well soon ^^ #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIf you enjoyed chatting with your #eltchat<\/a> colleagues, don’t forget to follow them so you can see their tweets even w\/o the hashtag \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> @bcnpaul1<\/a> I also dislike the fact that there is a kind of judgement on how successful the course has been #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> Yes, that is tricky. I think it boils down to grammatical accuracy sometimes when it’s a borderline case #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: If you enjoyed chatting with your #eltchat<\/a> colleagues, don’t forget to follow them so you can see their tweets even w\/o the hashtag \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BobK99<\/a> Agree re: UK system – I was part of the most tested generation ever. Must have done 150+ exams inc. mocks in my life! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@BobK99<\/a> We’re glad you made it, too! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yes they also have a good resource book for teachers “exam classes”. Full of useful tips and ideas #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@rliberni<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> thx for moderating. @sandymillin<\/a> thx for choosing the topic.Jolly motivating stuff \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @janetbianchini<\/a>: You can achieve a great bond with an exam class because they all have common goal <– I’ve found the same #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHad a blast! thanks @barbsaka<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> True, but that is part of the art of being an exam prep teacher. If Ss have learned to take personal responsibility… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nKarenInGreece<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: @rliberni<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> thx for moderating. @sandymillin<\/a> thx for choosing the topic.Jolly motivating stuff \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nnice discussion, though I was a watcher 2day than a participant… \ud83d\ude42 looking forward to the evening chat #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> And after they quit, they lose the level, but still have the certificate and think they still have it! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @barbsaka<\/a>: If you enjoyed chatting with your #eltchat<\/a> colleagues, don’t forget to follow them so you can see their tweets even w\/o the hashtag \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncarlaraguseo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Sorry I missed #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDawg_Houston<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI have to admit I’m not that keen on exam classes because it is a pain in the ass. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbarbsaka<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHave to go, but see you all next week! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikkiFortova<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> Thanks for all the great ideas \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nSimonGreenall<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThank you to participants and moderators. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbcnpaul1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> it’s true – fitting so much in adds so much pressure to the experience that it’s not fun at all #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@KarenInGreece<\/a> Often think the problem with Proficiency is finding NON-exam-orientated books! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Aha! Maybe letting go a bit, and forcing ss to take on responsibility -learner autonomy strategies might work #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nhear hear @DaveDodgson<\/a> @michelleworgan<\/a> @bcnpaul1<\/a> re:judgement on success #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThanks everyone. Some interesting thoughts about exam prep. Thx to great moderators @barbsaka<\/a>@rliberni<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nMissed the last bit – had to go and find a video for my celta’s – but will work with transcript soon #ELTchat<\/a> – anyone up for a summary?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @bcnpaul1<\/a>: @rliberni<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> thx for moderating. @sandymillin<\/a> thx for choosing the topic.Jolly motivating stuff \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncintiastella<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWonderful chat, thank you everyone! Greetings from Per\u00fa #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@bcnpaul1<\/a> maybe point is the cool linguistic experience… kinda like studying abroad for 2 months, then never usin the FL again. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Agreed that pressure is high, but I think that can make u more creative. 1st year was horrible tho! (On 3rd now) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> Yes, that what I was saying earlier, but I cannot force adults to be more autonomous or do work \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThanks a million to @riberni<\/a> @barbsaka<\/a> and @englishraven<\/a> for great moderation – wasnt able to do much today sorry #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@oyajimbo<\/a> Definitely! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@lingliziya<\/a> I try to make the lessons themselves motivating & familiarise them with the format to reduce stress #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nwaykatewit<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTChat<\/a> thank you colleagues, CU soon somewhere in the net :))<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nLovely, motivating chat as usual! Thank you to all fab #ELTChat<\/a> moderators and participants<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIf you came into #ELTChat<\/a> late today, I hope you’ll read and think about this post:\u00a0(Changed my exam prepping life!)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@janetbianchini<\/a> I set up a class blog but they don’t all participate and I can’t make them! They bsaically don’t like hard graft! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nyitzha_sarwono<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: If you came into #ELTChat<\/a> late today, I hope you’ll read and think about this post: (Changed my exam prepping life!)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsedayyildirim<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@barbsaka<\/a> I didn’t mention it . Thank u #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nmichelleworgan<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> I have taught FCE for 11 years, some good courses, stds ready to make an effort, others not so good (lazy) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nNikPeachey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> Make it easy graft and get them creating fun stuff thatthey can embed into the blog #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nbrad5patterson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nthnx all for makin a newbie #eltchat<\/a> experience fun… what a whirlwind. Have a pleasant rest to your week. \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\njanetbianchini<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@michelleworgan<\/a> That is a shame. I like the idea of class blog – how about getting them to create their own blog? MIght that help? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: If you came into #ELTChat<\/a> late today, I hope you’ll read this post: (Changed my exam prepping life!)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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