{"id":2866,"date":"2012-02-25T00:03:55","date_gmt":"2012-02-25T00:03:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eltchat.com\/?p=2866"},"modified":"2012-02-25T00:03:55","modified_gmt":"2012-02-25T00:03:55","slug":"monitoring-feedback-and-debriefing-when-and-how-to-do-it-in-class-eltchat-summary-15022012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/2012\/02\/25\/monitoring-feedback-and-debriefing-when-and-how-to-do-it-in-class-eltchat-summary-15022012\/","title":{"rendered":"Monitoring, Feedback and Debriefing: When and how to do it in class #ELTchat Summary 15\/02\/2012"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/celtathens.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/fb2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1601\" title=\"fb2\" src=\"http:\/\/celtathens.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/fb2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"324\" height=\"234\" \/><\/a>The #ELT chat topic on Wednesday, 15<sup>th<\/sup> February was on Monitoring, Feedback and Debriefing: when and how to do it. These issues in teaching are of equal importance just as practising any other skill in class. As this could be a sensitive issue, the teacher has to be really careful how she approaches the students and has to consider also the type of error she\/he wants to deal with.<\/p>\n<h2>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>When should we monitor?<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The following tweets obviously reveal that it doesn\u2019t constitute a separate stage in a lesson but it is there all the time!<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>I do it when they work in pairs and they don\u2019t notice it<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>I monitor students all the time without thinking about it consciously, it just happens subconsciously and spontaneously<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>In 1 to 1, I have to make sure there are times I\u2019m not monitoring them.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Should we always include a feedback slot?<\/p>\n<p>What happens if the teacher, intentionally, doesn\u2019t wish to give feedback?<\/p>\n<p>Many teachers admit that the students think their teacher is a bad one if she\/he doesn\u2019t correct them. Learner training is the key. The teacher should let students know when and how they should expect their feedback from her\/him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>However\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>it depends on the task, too much feedback impedes the flow of the lesson, better at the end and students need to know that<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/celtathens.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/fb1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1600 alignright\" style=\"border-color: initial; border-style: initial;\" title=\"fb1\" src=\"http:\/\/celtathens.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/fb1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"250\" \/><\/a>if students make the same error, you should make them aware of it.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #888888;\"><strong>What can feedback focus on?<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Feedback can be done overtly and covertly and here are some of the areas it can focus on:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>grammar<\/li>\n<li>content<\/li>\n<li>vocabulary\/collocation input and reformulation to sound more natural.<\/li>\n<li>good things\/ideas the teacher has heard.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>When should we give feedback?<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><em>I try not to correct students or friends outside class<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>save feedback for subsequent lessons; sometimes it devalues the activity to have feedback after a good discussion.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">How to give feedback?<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>by drilling<\/li>\n<li>by recycling games<\/li>\n<li>by focusing on one major area to highlight and experiment with in next lesson<\/li>\n<li>if communication is impeded, one of the teachers said she writes a note and slips it to the students who has the problem to help him correct it<\/li>\n<li>if it\u2019s a role play, the teacher can take the role of the secretary and record rather than correct and feed it back.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Feedback by means of recording<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>record the fluency activity and use this for feedback<\/li>\n<li>the teacher records his\/her feedback on his students\u2019 written work and students listen to their teacher talking about their work.<\/li>\n<li>send feedback through Jing<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Using delayed correction, usually at the end of the activity or lesson<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>this could be effective because students write down mistakes and correct versions so they practise them<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>But\u2026<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the next day they may make the same mistakes again.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So the question is raised: If the need arises isn\u2019t it better to deal with that whilst it\u2019s still relevant at the moment?<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Using the board<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Write up correct sentences on the board, interesting information they should know<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Giving feedback for fluency speaking activities<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>\u2018The hardest thing is what kind of feedback to give\u2019<\/em> a teacher admits. Another teacher says <em>\u2018when focusing on fluency in speaking, students tell me I don\u2019t correct enough\u2019.<\/em> Don\u2019t these questions bother us all the time?<\/p>\n<p>Feedback in this case can be provided:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0at the end of the activity<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>But<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>sometimes it can disrupt the flow of the lesson, if speaking leads to something else.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>Giving feedback for accuracy-focused tasks<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>grammar auctions is a good starting point, they\u2019re fun, placing bets whether a sentence is correct or not but more work may needed on certain areas<\/li>\n<li>create one or two correct questions to prompt students to use the corrected version<\/li>\n<li>create a mixture of wrong and right sentences to elicit some of the mistakes. This involves all students and it\u2019s a way for the teacher to check how well they\u2019ve understood things.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Self-correction &amp; Peer Correction<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>get students to self-correct<\/li>\n<li>get students to write down the correct versions in their notebook<\/li>\n<li>(s)elect a teacher from among the students who monitors certain activities. But this depends on the rapport they have since they can be sometimes mean<\/li>\n<li>peer correction works well for exam preparation classes, they listen to each other speaking, then they give feedback on accuracy, fluency and organization of ideas. In this way, students get the role of an examiner<\/li>\n<li>the teacher should give clear guidelines because students tend to spot errors but find it hard to see what\u2019s good in their peers.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Isn\u2019t also body language a way to give feedback?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Among other things, a teacher can:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>react<\/li>\n<li>smile<\/li>\n<li>nod<\/li>\n<li>look questioning<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Debriefing: definition<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>\u2018Informing people about their experience or allowing them to talk about it\u2019<\/em> according to. Wikipedia. It can be also very useful for needs analysis, syllabus evaluation and lesson planning.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>ask students at the end of the lesson, what they liked or not. It\u2019s good to know where the teacher stands, student\u2019s feedback is very important<\/li>\n<li>important to take into account learner\u2019s opinions, since it enhances learning<\/li>\n<li>invite them to give comments after class. Put up a question on Linoit to trigger discussion<\/li>\n<li>post-its make for fun feedback, note good language\/errors (1 per Post-it) and get students up and moving round room at end of class to find and fix errors<\/li>\n<li>rather than post-its, we were shown an idea of using Hawaiian skirts and students in groups race and correct the strips they tear off<\/li>\n<li>I give a list of sentence starters for them to finish (This week I enjoyed.., I found xxx really hard, I&#8217;d like to work on &#8230;)<\/li>\n<li>get students to write on noticeboard like Linoit, then comment on things they like, nice expressions, ideas etc. Then discuss in class<\/li>\n<li>give feedback on the Friday to see if Monday needs have been achieved.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Some useful links:<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>A link to Russell Stannard talking about giving oral feedback on written work &#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/OV5zHkYb\">http:\/\/t.co\/OV5zHkYb<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scott Thornbury, Steven Herder on March 3rd for a free webinar: Error Correction <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/UqE3sVS9\">http:\/\/t.co\/UqE3sVS9<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@Hartle: \u00a0Marking at work, follow this link to my blog and scroll down to week three housecorners. <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/1Q5c0Gg6\">http:\/\/t.co\/1Q5c0Gg6<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/iG8oNLPY\">http:\/\/t.co\/iG8oNLPY<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/iG8oNLPY\">http:\/\/t.co\/iG8oNLPY<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/JEiSwjbE\">http:\/\/t.co\/JEiSwjbE<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>As you have noticed, I haven\u2019t mentioned any names as everyone contributed to the discussion equally!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #888888;\"><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #888888;\">About the Author<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/celtathens.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/toula.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"margin-left: 9px; margin-right: 9px;\" title=\"toula\" src=\"http:\/\/celtathens.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/toula.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"103\" height=\"128\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Toula Sklavou<\/strong>\u00a0has been a teacher of English since 2002. She is a Cambridge DELTA Diploma holder and has also studied translation; she holds an MA in Translation from the University of Surrey, UK. \u00a0She has worked mainly in Greece but more recently has also been teaching summer school in the UK.<\/p>\n<p>She is @toulasklavou on Twitter<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The #ELT chat topic on Wednesday, 15th February was on Monitoring, Feedback and Debriefing: when and how to do it. These issues in teaching are of equal importance just as practising any other skill in class. 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