{"id":6415,"date":"2014-03-21T16:50:16","date_gmt":"2014-03-21T16:50:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eltchat.org\/wordpress\/?p=6415"},"modified":"2014-03-21T16:50:16","modified_gmt":"2014-03-21T16:50:16","slug":"how-do-you-design-good-icqs-and-ccqs-eltchat-summary-12032014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/2014\/03\/21\/how-do-you-design-good-icqs-and-ccqs-eltchat-summary-12032014\/","title":{"rendered":"How do you design good ICQs and CCQs?  #ELTchat Summary &#8211; 12\/03\/2014"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><b>How do you design good ICQs and CCQs?<\/b><\/h2>\n<h2><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>When I saw the topic for #ELTChat was CCQs, I simply had to join. They were always one of the main points of feedback during my observations &#8211; CCQs a little untargeted, ambiguous, using target language etc. The bane of a small part of my existence one might say. Naturally, this topic was right up my street. I am still learning, (aren&#8217;t we all?), and knew that my chat peers tonight would have lots to pass on to me.<\/p>\n<p>Oh so they did!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_6416\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/eltchat.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/question-mark-sky-28278715.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6416\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6416\" alt=\"Stock image from http:\/\/www.dreamstime.com\/royalty-free-stock-photo-question-mark-sky-image28278715   \" src=\"http:\/\/eltchat.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/question-mark-sky-28278715.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-6416\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stock image from http:\/\/www.dreamstime.com\/royalty-free-stock-photo-question-mark-sky-image28278715<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>\u00a0What is a CCQ?<\/h2>\n<p>@SueAnnan kicked off the chat by asking if everyone knew what a CCQ was.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There were mixed responses from participants with @noamishema not being entirely positive and @HanaTicha and @HadaLitim tweeting &#8220;concept checking questions&#8221;. @Eilymurphy added &#8220;Short questions to check Ss understand vocab and grammar.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There was a bit of confusion throughout the chat as to the classification of CCQs with @naomishema using questions for reading comprehension, called &#8216;comprehension questions&#8217;, not concept checking, and yours truly forgetting the difference between the CCQ and ICQ (instruction checking question), for a spell. Summary writing was also mentioned, but again rejected as a CC method.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In short, @Marisa_C explained that &#8220;CCQs originate from semantics (componential analysis) [] Transformational Generative Grammar (deep vs surface meaning).&#8221; Doing a quick Google search for &#8216;Transformational Grammar&#8217; will lead you to some papers based around the subject.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Going back to a definition for CCQs, it seemed the consensus centred around Eily&#8217;s thoughts, with final responses coming in from @KateLloyd05 and @ClassWired:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;questions we ask to determine whether students have understood our explanation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;finding out if a learner has understood a new item.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><b>Should we limit CCQs? <\/b><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>With definitions decided upon, tweeters moved on to the nitty-gritty. At the beginning of the chat @ChristineMulla, well, I, asked whether it was possible to ask too many questions. This was reformulated later on by @KemparisKostas to include whether we should put a limit on the number of CCQs asked in a 60 minute lesson. @ShaunWilden pointed out that too many depended on the quality of the question, with which Marisa_C agreed, adding that lots of questions can also seem like a machine gun. @HanaTicha granted that wholeheartedly and put forward, quite nicely I believe, &#8220;Your Ss should definitely not feel as if interrogated by the police.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Asking too many CCQs was generally believed to be ineffective and ran the risk of &#8220;students tuning out&#8221; (@MicaelaCarey). It was also agreed upon by all that, &#8220;Do you understand?&#8221;, is quite taboo .<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While we cannot ever predict completely the language that will come up in a lesson, and therefore require concept checking, it was widely agreed by all participants that CCQs should be concise and limited to a couple per language item. One way to help limit this, a method used by @HanaTicha is to focus on weaker Ss when asking. &#8220;If they know, the stronger ones will too.&#8221; On the whole it was agreed that we can&#8217;t really limit the number of CCQs without limiting language items, but we can alternate interaction patterns. (@KemparisKostas)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, some Ss still won&#8217;t get a concept even after CCQs, but what can we do about this? Well, says @ShaunWilden, get Ss to generate questions themselves. @SueAnnan wasn&#8217;t sure about this if we are supposed to be checking students&#8217; understanding. @Marisa_C offered an approach she calls &#8216;ideas behind&#8217; as an activity. The idea is that you have a handout with the target language on it, which is given to students. They then write &#8220;ideas behind&#8221; each sentence. e.g. &#8220;I wish you wouldn&#8217;t smoke.&#8221; Ss have to say, &#8220;But you do.&#8221;; &#8220;I don&#8217;t like it.&#8221; Another idea was to pair Ss up to set a couple of questions for another pair. @mary28sou and I plan to try both of these out. How about you?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Moving back towards the initial #eltchat topic, types of CCQs, design, planning, examples and language came up.<\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><b>When should we ask them?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>At any point, though usually, &#8220;after the presentation stage to check sts are on the same wavelength.&#8221; @ShaunWilden<\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><b>Can we use them for things other than vocab?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Definitely!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>All agreed that when using CCQs to check a grammar point, the target language should be avoided at all costs. An example given for this came from @eilymurphy:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Has gone to lunch vs has been to lunch &#8211; Where is she now?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Lunch&#8217; is substituted with China by @KateLloyd and bathroom by @HanaTicha.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>When asked if things like pronunciation, register, form etc.\u00a0 could be checked as part of a CCQ &#8211; @SueAnnan offered that register is important, but she doesn&#8217;t do this during CC.<\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><b>Can we use timelines and clines?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Oh indeed! The question, asked by @Marisa_C,\u00a0 &#8220;Can you ask Ss to make a timeline or choose one?&#8221; was popular among participants especially for dealing with different learning styles and Ss who prefer visuals. Giving two timelines and asking Ss to choose which suited best generated a lot of interest. I recall doing this during my CELTA and learning a lot about making sure your question was graded perfectly when doing so. (More on grading and the pitfalls of CCQs shortly).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>On clines, chatters were all for them, in particular when checking gradable items like adverbs of frequency and adjectives. &#8220;A thermometer activity,&#8221; was mentioned by @Marisa_C; getting Ss to draw thermometers or glasses of water to show grading. A nice one to steal I reckon.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b>What are the pitfalls of CCQs?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>#ELTChat&#8217;s hour began to come to a close with one final question remaining unanswered. @HadaLitim broached the all important subject:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What are the pitfalls of CCQs?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Making lessons inauthentic at times was mentioned, in addition to the possibility of students sometimes feeling\u00a0 a little patronised (I know I&#8217;ve had some looks of disdain). Inane questions, it was added, can heighten this feeling. The amount of grading and planning involved was also touched upon here, with questions which aren&#8217;t well thought out leading to confusion, a circle back to the initial language point and sometimes having to start over.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A flood of approval came in for as much planning as possible when it comes to CCQs, at any level. Although agreed that not all language can be planned for, @harrisonmike summed up tweeters well saying, &#8220;I think it&#8217;s better if frames are planned out, as you can never be sure what concepts will need checking.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><b>On not using CCQs with higher levels:<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There was a slight to and fro on the approach to the finish line on using CCQs at higher levels with @SueAnnan admitting; &#8220;am guilty of assuming they understand.&#8221; Conceding it was a common assumption, @ShaunWilden retweeted an absolute truth from @Marisa_C, &#8220;What can go wrong will go wrong.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>@Ashowski posted the closing\u00a0 top tweet of the evening on this \u00a0issue:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels &#8211; can a native always 100% understand a task?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Gold for this writer. We most certainly cannot I am sure you will agree.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Well readers, that brings us to the end of this weeks&#8217; stimulating #eltchat on CCQs in the classroom. You&#8217;ll find a link <a href=\"http:\/\/marisaconstantinides.edublogs.org\/2010\/10\/04\/what-about-your-concept-questions-the-famous-ccqs\/comment-page-1\/#.UyWam_l_sSY\">here<\/a> to a wonderful post on CCQs by Marisa_C.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In similar fashion to the way @Marisa_C ended our chat, \u00a0by sending some T\/F CCQ\u2019s, I shall leave you with some CCQs to check what you understood from this summary:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Summaries and comprehensions are types of CCQ, T or F?<\/li>\n<li>We should limit the number of CCQs we ask, T or F?<\/li>\n<li>CCQs can only be used for vocabulary, T or F?<\/li>\n<li>CCQs can be asked at any point, T or F?<\/li>\n<li>CCQs should include target language, T or F?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re still not sure, \u00a0scroll down and check the answers.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0See you next time!<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><b>About the Summary Writer <\/b><\/h3>\n<div style=\"width: 83px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/424874690281099264\/OGcMSOCL_bigger.jpeg\" width=\"73\" height=\"73\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Christine Mullaney<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Christine Mullaney is an IELTS and Business English teacher currently working in Kaplan International English in Dublin. She is currently a communications officer on the committee for the newly established ELT Ireland, building a PLN and learning about blogging, Twitter and anything else that can help her enhance, learn and share.<\/p>\n<p>She is @ChristineMulla on Twitter<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Answers upside down<\/h2>\n<p>\u025f 5\u00a0 \u0287 4\u00a0\u00a0 \u025f 3\u00a0\u00a0 \u025f 2\u00a0\u00a0 \u025f 1<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How do you design good ICQs and CCQs? \u00a0 When I saw the topic for #ELTChat was CCQs, I simply had to join. They were always one of the main points of feedback during my observations &#8211; CCQs a little untargeted, ambiguous, using target language etc. The bane of a small part of my existence&hellip; <br \/> <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/2014\/03\/21\/how-do-you-design-good-icqs-and-ccqs-eltchat-summary-12032014\/\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6415","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-summary"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6415","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6415"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6415\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6415"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6415"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6415"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}