{"id":777,"date":"2010-12-23T07:40:01","date_gmt":"2010-12-23T06:40:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eltchat.com\/?p=777"},"modified":"2010-12-23T07:40:01","modified_gmt":"2010-12-23T06:40:01","slug":"should-esl-teachers-learn-a-secondforeign-language-can-this-help-us-to-become-better-teachers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eltchat.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/23\/should-esl-teachers-learn-a-secondforeign-language-can-this-help-us-to-become-better-teachers\/","title":{"rendered":"Should ESL teachers learn a second\/foreign language? Can this help us to become better teachers?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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9:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to our next topic – please join us for the last #ELTchat<\/a> of the year<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> for the next half hour my tweets will be dedicated to the last #ELTchat<\/a> of the year (will have to leave early).<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWelcome to our last #ELTchat<\/a> of 2010 – Is learning a foreign language a good thing for an FL teacher? Does it makes us better teachers?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to our next topic – please join us for the last #ELTchat<\/a> of the year<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nYes, I think it really helps sometimes english cannot solve all problems #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThis evening I will be your only moderator – if any of our more seasoned #ELTchat<\/a> friends wish to lend a helping hand I will be grateful<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Yes – we remember what it’s like to not understand, not know, not be able to say what we want #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sandymillin<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Yes – we remember what it’s like to not understand, not know, not be able to say what we want #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIf nothing else, it grants us some empathy for our students learning situation. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIs this tru of both NEST’s and NNEST’s ? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAs a NNEST who Cs benefits in being such when Tching a English, I think every ELT teacher would benefit from learning another lang #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Is this tru of both NEST’s and NNEST’s ? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> how many hands would you like to borrow? \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @seburnt<\/a>: If nothing else, it grants us some empathy for our students learning situation. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: As a NNEST who Cs benefits in being such when Tching a English, I think every ELT T would benefit from this #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> how many hands would you like to borrow? \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a>hehehehhehe<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> how many hands would you like to borrow? \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a> > Am here if you need \ud83d\ude09<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> I want your hands… Was hoping you would offer at least one \ud83d\ude00 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Great ! Thanks – lovely! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nYes, I tend to think it does help – we get in touch with some of the difficulties involved when learning a new language.#ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> my pleasure – happy to help out \ud83d\ude00 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> think it’s true for everyone – many NNESTs learnt Eng a while ago, so it’s a memory – good 2 do 1 lesson + every couple of years<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nLearning any lang put u in the STs’ shoes and makes you relate better to what \/ how they feel #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOther languages also give Ts insight into common errors, social ideology and language structure. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:04 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: As a NNEST who Cs benefits in being such when Tching a English, I think every ELT T would benefit from this #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> If you are new to this chat ask me @Marisa_C<\/a> or @esolcourses<\/a> of @cecilialcoelho<\/a> for help – thanks ladies!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Always glad to help \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:05 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> insight into common errors <- yes, helps you understand WHY SS making certain errors, not just that it’s common<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nBlog4Edu<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nvia @DaveDodgson<\/a> Merry Christmas from the 2 Newest Internet Music Sensations – English Raven & The Brig…\u00a0 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nNew blog post: Merry Christmas from the 2 Newest Internet Music Sensations – English Raven & The Bright…\u00a0 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nDo you think the language chosen to learn matters? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAs a NNEST I can’t remember what it was like to be a beginner – I learnt as a child. #ELTchat<\/a> so my beginner Turkish course was invaluable<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:06 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIf you are new to #ELtchat<\/a> ask me @esolcourses<\/a> or @Marisa_C<\/a> or @cecilialcoelho<\/a> for help<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> think it’s useful to learn ur SS language in monolingual class – helps you see their errors<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I had the same experience Marisa. Learned Eng V young, going back for Spanish and French took me back #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOops, forgot hashtag. @cecilialcoelho<\/a> If your class is homogeneous, it’s probably good to start with your Ss language. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:07 pm<\/a><\/td>\npeterjohnfenton<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: Learning any lang put u in the STs’ shoes and makes you relate better to how they feel #ELTchat<\/a> agreed empathy is key!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: Do you think the language chosen to learn matters? #ELTchat<\/a> > No I don’t – but it’s good if distant to ur L1 or L2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> but if multiling \/ u know lang already, just being a language learner helps regardless of which lang.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWho would like to learn some Modern Greek? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHi everyone whats’s the topic? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nTo be honest, I’m not sure I’ve met anyone who works in ELT who doesn’t speak a second language… would have thought it a given? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:08 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI agree with @seburnt<\/a> and @sandymillin<\/a> that if u have a monoligual group it’s good to know their lang. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> distant to L1 \/ L2 good – gives you new perspective<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: Learning any lang put u in the STs’ shoes and makes you relate better to what \/ how they feel #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @peterjohnfenton<\/a>: Learning any lang put u in the STs’ shoes and makes you relate better to how they feel #ELTchat<\/a> agreed empathy is key!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> I know many L1 Ts who don’t speak any language other than English and the Grammar of French or German etc maybe #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’m still awake so I may as well join #ELTchat<\/a> \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> topic is “is it a good idea for ESL\/EFL Ts to learn a foreign Language?”#eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> did learn Modern Greek for a year. First new alphabet – appreciated new challenge, but then, I love languages!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sandymillin<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> distant to L1 \/ L2 good – gives you new perspective – indeed!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> thanks #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:09 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Great idea Dave… u have vaulable opinions to give – I know \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> : -))) YW Leahn #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’ve learned bits and pieces of several languages, but I’m nowhere near able to hold a conversation in any of them. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThink it is true for NNESTs & non NNESTs it gives us insight into the cognitive aspect of the learning & teaching of a FL. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @seburnt<\/a> @sandymillin<\/a> Not so sure. I knew many typicla Turkish student errors before I ever knew Turkish! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:10 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> many NNESTs have a very expat\/colonial attitude to learning languages in countries they teach<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> many NNESTs have a very expat\/colonial attitude to learning languages in countries they teach<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWe had a NEST come spend a year here and she never learned any Portuguese – never showed any interest. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @vbenevolofranca<\/a>: it gives us insight into the cognitive aspect of the learning & teaching of FL. #ELTchat<\/a> >also affective eg frustration<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: We had a NEST come spend a year here and she never learned any Portuguese – never showed any interest. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nwe do not have to speak the language to know the structure, I mean thorough search would do the trick to know the mistakes of ss #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:11 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: We had a NEST come spend a year here and she never learned any Portuguese – never showed any interest. #ELTChat<\/a> shame<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> You may have known (or predict) the mistakes before u learned, but did you understand why? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> Especially good for fresh-off-CELTA teachers who really can’t remember \/ don’t know what it’s like for SS (reduces TTT!?)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @fionamau<\/a>: RT @vbenevolofranca<\/a>: it gives us insight into the cognitive aspect of the learning & teaching of FL. #ELTchat<\/a> >also affective eg frustration<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @fionamau<\/a>: RT @vbenevolofranca<\/a>: it gives us insight into the cognitive aspect of the learning & teaching of FL. #ELTchat<\/a> >also affective eg frustration<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> Completely agree… Why come to a different country if not to experience the culture, right? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @fionamau<\/a>: RT @vbenevolofranca<\/a>: it gives us insight into the cognitive aspect of the learning & teaching of FL. #ELTchat<\/a> >also affective eg frustration<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> The problem there is, you teach English, your social contacts speak English\/want to speak English… #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:12 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> Not vital to know L1 to recognise SS errors, but helps you see more and get into intricacies?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\njohnsonmaryj<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWhen I study Italian in Italy w\/ students from all over world, I experience (as a learner) techniques of #eltchat<\/a> teachers. So useful.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> …mkaes it difficult to learn. Plus if you think ‘just a year’ there’s little motivation #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @cecilialcoelho<\/a> The problem there is, you teach English, your social contacts speak English\/want to speak English… #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> expat attitude < I agree. I teach in Czech Rep, and most of my colleagues don’t understand why I learn Cz<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sandymillin<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> Especially good for fresh-off-CELTA teachers > Especially for those > We teach them a foreign language for a bit<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I see your point Dave… It happens here too – Everyone wants to speak Eng to NESTs. I make a conscious effort not to #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:13 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Yes, I would notice a certain error, other s would tell me “that’s because in Turkish…” #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @lolonagi<\/a> – #eltchat<\/a> bt ‘walk the talk’ is always gd philosophy.makes fr better dynamic if sts feel they can teach u 2, swap idioms etc<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:14 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> A very limited attitude I find #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I disagree when u say just a year = little motivation Dave. Time shouldn’t be relevant. Then why go 2 a diff country? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> Same when I 1st came to Turkey – little reason to go beyond asking for things in the supermarket! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I live on tourist island evryone wants to practice their Eng here too!@cecilialcoelho<\/a>#ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a> Had a NEST spend a yr here.she never learned any Portuguese-… #ELTChat<\/a>> Like to think this is an exception to the rule.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ALiCe__M<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> @sandymillin<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> @seburnt<\/a> find that a bit surprising… wd think it must put them at a disadvantage #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:15 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> I teach them a few lessons in the very basic Turkish I have \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I agree was in Thailand for year and I tried! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> A very limited attitude I find #eltchat<\/a> < definitely. But it’s the ‘only a year’ syndrome (& after 5 years, still same opinion)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> quite useful to study an L2 with a BAD teacher, and note why things don’t work – then reflect on own teaching.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vbenevolofranca<\/a> Me too Valeria… And think it is, for we had much more examples of the opposite #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I don’t see how it could possibly be a bad thing…? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@fionamau<\/a> that’s an idea #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:16 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> I think I must try and get our LEARNERS to teach the CELTA teachers a little of THEIR lang – what do you think?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> For cheap beer and travel of course :p #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> I think I must try and get our LEARNERS to teach the CELTA teachers a little of THEIR lang – what do you think?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> great idea#ELTchat<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Awwww how cynical – how true … #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@fionamau<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> definitely! > study with BAD teacher…but oh, so depressing!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ALiCe__M<\/a> I agree w\/ u there Alice… It shows everyone is a learner in one way or another, & all learners go thru the same process #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:17 pm<\/a><\/td>\nAlexandraKouk<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> Hi all! I have a NEST friend – english teacher – in Greece for 25 years, hardly speaks any Greek!!!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> Hi Sue! Great to see you here – jump in! Of course it couldn’t – everyone agreeing so far #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Good idea – would be interesting to see if the learners adopt the methods they say they like or not \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> Awwww how cynical – how true … #ELTchat<\/a> > Certainly can be true about Brazil \ud83d\ude09<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\npeterjohnfenton<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Sounds like a great idea. In my Trinity TESOL, 2nd lang lessons were compulsory – I learnt a little Czech #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vbenevolofranca<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> even if I’m only going on holiday I try! big part of experiencing other cultures, IMO #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\njohnsonmaryj<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nEven when I study a new lng with a good teacher, I want to show them all the cool technology tools for learning. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:18 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Our learners are getting better at assessing the celta trainees than us, the tutors…. \ud83d\ude00 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> I think I must try & get our LEARNERS to teach CELTA teachers a little of THEIR lang – what do u think? < good idea!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nALiCe__M<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I think it’s an excellent idea, the most important part would befeedback, I reckon. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Fabulous idea Marisa!!!! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> THanks! WHo cares what methods the learners use! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nLarryferlazzo<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: @cgoodey<\/a> THanks! WHo cares what methods the learners use! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> I think it’s an excellent idea, the most important part would befeedback, I reckon. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:19 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @sueleather<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> if everyone’s agreeing, we’re the converted. How do we persuade the language-shy? (as multilingual obsessive)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> I think I must try & get LEARNERS to teach the CELTA teachers a little of THEIR lang – what do you think? Gr8 idea!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cgoodey<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> I think I must try & get our LEARNERS to teach CELTA teachers a little of THEIR lang – what do u think? < good idea!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Fuertesun<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> my dad failed 2 learn Spanish fr 3 yrs w teacher; his experience v helpful fr my teaching.Now he uses Aguila Roja \ud83d\ude09<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI was in Korea for 6 years & never met a career EFL teacher. Every1 was there 4 various reasons; none were to teach EFL 4ever. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Exactly! Might learn new ways of teaching!! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Student assessment of trainees is a great idea – highly relevant, isn’t it? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:20 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Student assessment of trainees is a great idea – highly relevant, isn’t it? #ELTchat<\/a> > Absolutely! I always ask<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> and moreover they ALWAYS know! all the grades.. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> @vbenevolofranca<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> Me too Sue! But is it natural 4 us – being Ts certainly shows a liking for langs #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:21 pm<\/a><\/td>\nALiCe__M<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @cgoodey<\/a> might also give teachers an insight to the way learners see “good teaching” #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nNow, it’s a matter of time–Does learning another language outweigh blogging, prep and other extracurricular teacher stuff? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI suppose an interesting question might be if one could actually prove that teaching improves if you learn a language yourself. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI think learning a 2nd language is useful to remember what’s it’s like to be a learner more than for understanding students’ errors #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @vbenevolofranca<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> had assumed it was a natural, but from what others have said, possibly not #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> It’s not uncommon in Brazil – tho bigger, more serious schools are a bit different. Many former exchange STs as Eng Ts. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: I think learning a 2nd language is useful to remember what’s it’s like to be a learner more than for understanding students’ errors #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: I think learning a 2nd language is useful to remember what’s it’s like to be a learner more than for understanding students’ errors #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> depends on if you’re career teacher or just doing it because you don’t know what else to do :s<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sueleather<\/a>: interesting question might be if one could actually prove that teaching improves if you learn a language yourself. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:22 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: But is it natural 4 us – being Ts certainly shows a liking for langs #ELTchat<\/a> >> make that ‘being dedicated teachers’<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAs opposed to,say, learning a new skill like skiing or tai chi. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> I think we really don’t have any serious research to back this up with – does anyone know of any? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@fionamau<\/a> Ok \ud83d\ude42 Dedicated, passionate, career ETL teachers \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> good point, but one hour once a month just for tasters, or trying to use odd phrases outside school takes little time<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:23 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> I’d say learning languages as an adult & discovering what works 4 me has given me strategies I wouldn’t otherwise have #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nAlexandraKouk<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> Absolutely agree<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> Agreed Sandy… or maybe just making a few quick (easy) bucks while can’t find a job u want #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\npdguymikeg<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: RT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: Learning any lang put u in the STs’ shoes and makes you relate better to what \/ how they feel #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: useful 2remember what it’s like 2 b a learner #ELTchat<\/a> > exactly. it’s the affective bit, being aware of how HARD it can be<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:24 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Yes.. the research would be interesting- and probably not very convincing:) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> @sueleather<\/a> & learning languages in diff ways – 2 at school, 1 at uni, 1 in country, 1 with friend – all diff. methods #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> Ouch!!! Right on where it hurts Tyson! So so true… I think part of my insomnia comes from trying to do it all #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\njohnsonmaryj<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAgree with @DaveDodgson<\/a>. Learning another lng builds empathy, not just teaching strategies. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @fionamau<\/a> Ok \ud83d\ude42 Dedicated, passionate, career ETL teachers \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a> – claro and of course :-))<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I think both reasons are equally valid Dave. Reminds you of both sides #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> I agree…but it’s all quite anecdotal isn’t it? Not that there’s anything wrong with that:) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:25 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> Cambridge might be able to do it – there are high Nos of celta’s every year – q-aire they complete could include this #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sandymillin<\/a>: @esolcourses<\/a> @sueleather<\/a> & learning languages in diff ways – 2 at school, 1 at uni, 1 in country, 1 with friend – all diff. methods #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> – There is a research hypothesis here for anyone interested in pursuing this ….<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: @sueleather<\/a> I’d say learning languages as an adult & discovering what works 4 me has given me strategies I wouldn’t otherwise have #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:26 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Good idea. At least you could get some qualitative data. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> agree… although in theory I suppose it would be possible to research it #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> and the time thing is sth our SS can deal with (job, family, hobbies, studies, sleep and English!), so we should too<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I’m not convinced by the ‘know their L1 influenced errors’ arguement …. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> I’d rarely have opp to use a FL outside of school in Toronto, which may be multicultural, but who speaks what? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I think this a very interesting area that lack research #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWhoa! Am thankful for @esolcourses<\/a> and @ceciliacoelho<\/a> … not catching up with all your comments!!! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nDo you, as a lang teacher feel awkward being back in the role of the ST? Assess yr T’s technique differently? That happened to me. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> … Natural Order Hypothesis suggests the pattern of learning is largely the same regardless of the students’ L1 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:27 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> not just career teachers; depends on attitude 2 ‘foreigners’ eg Brits who spend life criticising Spain n work here…<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I feel frustrated learning German.. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: I think learning a 2nd language is useful to remember what’s it’s like to be a learner more than for understanding students’ errors #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncybraryman1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nMy Foreign Language pages:\u00a0 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> …. to correlate with their grades possibly…? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I like being the student #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> OK, that was from my living in country mindset \ud83d\ude09 although there must be someone (found French spkr here after 2.5 years!)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncybraryman1<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> I have some German links on my FL page: #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> True. We all could be learning other languages right now instead of tweeting. \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Not sure – I learned Turkish without a teacher! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:28 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> Who would like to take part in a beginner Modern Greek course online?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cybraryman1<\/a> thanks #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> I like being the student #ELTChat<\/a> < me too! Love it \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> How can u not be convinced by that argument? I think it makes perfect sense. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nHi all , great discussion going on #Eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\npeterjohnfenton<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI think Dornyei wrote that having a good model (i.e. teacher learning a 2nd language) can help improve motivation in learners #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Mbarek<\/a> Hi and welcome! #Eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cybraryman1<\/a> have a German partner and German TV! but need to learn the grammar #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nOur experiences of learning L2s will b different from our learners so important not 2 make assumptions about their learning… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> sounds good<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:29 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Hi Marisa , glad to see u here #Eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @peterjohnfenton<\/a>: I think Dornyei wrote that having a good model (i.e.T learning an L2) can help improve motivation in learners #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@annapires<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> am counting you in!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> Don’t get me wrong, I like being a ST bt had a harder time Bing a lang ST again, after Tching Eng 4 so long #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@peterjohnfenton<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> my SS often say they like my lessons because they know I understand. Always tell them in lesson 1 tht I spk 4 lngs<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:30 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Very diff I lived on the Peoploneese six months only remmeber a parot’s claw ! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Students around the world find the same things difficult whatever their L1 is. L1 influenced errors are minor and.. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> That’s right. My L2 doesn’t have to be a practical choice, I suppose. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> I’ve learnt languages without a teacher, but I think need to be very motivated to do it successfully #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> yes more crtitical? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> I don’t even know what that is in my own language! He he #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> ..quite easily resolved in my experience #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nVictoriaB52<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> a most valuable teaching lesson was when I sat through a Vietnamese listening lesson for an hour…unable to hear different tones<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> I’ve learnt languages without a teacher, but I think need to be very motivated to do it successfully #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:31 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> What about a ferret’s toe? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\npeterjohnfenton<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> good idea! If teacher can do it, why can’t I? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nseburnt<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @sandymillin<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> I’m sure I’d evaluate my T’s teaching style and activity choices. LOL #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> Absolutely , it’s all about motivation #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> u gotta be kidding me … lol<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Strongly disagree there Dave… You have your pool of common mistakes all around, but you also have V specific … #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> all learners’ experiences are diff, so helps us to appreciate that more -can plan 1 lesson for all, but to get it is diff.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:32 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> do agree about motivation #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @peterjohnfenton<\/a>: Dornyei:teacher learning a 2nd lang can improve motivatn in learners #ELTchat<\/a>> changes perceived roles, same boat feel<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> Can you imagine! just finished a com comp course with 15 teachers imagine what they were saying after class LOL #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> …. repetitive mistakes by STs of specific L1s. And not only in pronunciation, but grammar, vocab… #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> not sure I agree with you on that, Dave – particularly where pronunciation is concerned #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT@Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> Who would like to take part in beginner Modern Greek course online?>would be gr8: different alphabet & new phonology!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:33 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I still remember….it was a5 years ago! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nWait! I did have a 4 week Turkish course – teacher hell-bent on grammar & explained everything in English! I quit after 2 weeks \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIn my school my trainees have to do teaching practice with real beginners – V. difficult to teach without understanding & empathy #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> YES I’m tone deaf it Thailand was a nightmare #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> having a non-western L1 alphabet is another issue #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAah! Not easy to keep up!! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@seburnt<\/a> @sandymillin<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> LOL! Exactly what happened to me! Always caught myself thinking (why didn’t she do it like that?)#ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> I think it is the low level learners who benefit from this even more<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:34 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> know what you mean about frustration, but maybe we could share what we know (like @Marisa_C<\/a>‘s Greek)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> I’m following ya! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA danger is that a teacher who’s a good language learner still can’t understand the problems of learners who are more challenged. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Can you imagine all the crtiiques good job got thick skin #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sueleather<\/a>: A danger is that a teacher who’s a good language learner still can’t understand the problems of learners who are more challenged. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sueleather<\/a>: A danger is that a teacher who’s a good language learner still can’t understand the problems of learners who are more challenged. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sueleather<\/a>: A danger: a T who’s a good lang Learner still can’t understand the problems of learners who are more challenged. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:35 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cgoodey<\/a>: Our experiences learning L2s different from our learners important not 2 make assumptions about their learning.. #eltchat<\/a>> True<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: In my school my trainees have to do teaching practice with real beginners – V. difficult to teach without understanding & empathy #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> but most of those issues are easily resolved. 3rd person present simple singular is not #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nflexolern<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ShellTerrell<\/a>: One way to overcome burnout is to find ways to have fun with lessons! #eltchat<\/a><<< true!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSo in fact, in that case, learning a language can have the opposite effect than that desired…. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> Excellent point Sue – but even though I think I am 1 there were still levels of empathy that I would otherwise not have #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:36 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @sueleather<\/a>: A danger: a T who’s a good lang Learner still can’t understand the problems of learners who are more challenged. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\ngoralkai<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cybraryman1<\/a>: Administrators should provide more support & help for teachers to combat the stress #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nALiCe__M<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Sure, but this does not rule out the invaluable experience of having been a learner oneself #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> Again, I think that comes back to pronunciation\/accent #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Sure, but this does not rule out the invaluable experience of having been a learner oneself #eltchat<\/a> > Agree fully<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:37 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @cecilialcoelho<\/a> – 3rd person present simple singular is not #ELTchat<\/a> only important in exams, not in communication….<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Welcome my co – moderator! I have had to seek inside help!!! Been on me own \ud83d\ude00 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I nevr got the subjunctive in French #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @esolcourses<\/a> @annapires<\/a> Whoops! My thoughts just trespassed on #ELTChat<\/a> ! Not normally about at this time…<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I’d love to learn Greek online \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Shall I dive in late and attempt to help out? #ELTChat<\/a> \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I’m counting you in too! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Same in Turkey – but I don’t see that as an L1 issue. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:38 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yay! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> yes, but as a good language learner, we could share techniques \/ enthusiasm – gives SS same boat feeling<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Learners who have a pres perfect equivalent in their L1 also struggle with it! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Sure, but this does not rule out the invaluable experience of having been a learner oneself #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @cecilialcoelho<\/a> Learners who have a pres perfect equivalent in their L1 also struggle with it! #ELTchat<\/a> > True<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> Don’t get me started on French… had great difficulty and little time. Put it on standby for a while \ud83d\ude41 Miss it #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:39 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sueleather<\/a>: So in fact, in that case, learning a language can have the opposite effect than that desired…. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @Marisa_C<\/a> I’d love to learn Greek online \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a> < me too (have a little bit, but not much!)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> – if of course a monolingual class this is even more valuable for contrastive analysis and understanding of source of error<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> – not ‘getting’ subjunctives or prepositions or tones probably helps our teachg! Fewer unreal demands on sts,more realistic aims…<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> Am counting you in too \ud83d\ude00 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:40 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> Agree, but I can’t believe they struggle as much. I have only taught Brazilians so far though #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> but regardless of specifics, all these problems help you remember how hard it is to learn new lang<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI think we should accept errors esp in grammar they are signs of learning .#eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nVictoriaB52<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> I found learning Vietnamese nigh on impossible Listening and speaking-wise. Was a great help – esp re teaching listening skills<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I think your Turkish course sounds V similar to my French. I think the teacher just didn’t convince me. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nMy exp. of learning langs is that I had 2 get out there & use the language & get lots of exposure. How does that help in classroom? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:41 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> but you tried… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSurely it’s the ‘public effort’ that counts, though… especially when you try the learners own L1? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> sometimes give SS 5 minutes at end of class to quiz me in Czech to help them see errors don’t matter (esp. reluctant speakers)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I have real problems when I teach in multi-lingual classes as I rely on my knowledge of Spanish too much #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Mbarek<\/a>: I think we should accept errors esp in grammar they are signs of learning .#eltchat<\/a> > Completely agree \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Plus, I don’t need to speak Portuguese to know they don’t use perfect tenses & will find it difficult \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a> Learners with a pres perfect equivalent in their L1 also struggle w it! #ELTchat<\/a> >but bks make an issue of it so it’s scary!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Mbarek<\/a>: I think we should accept errors esp in grammar they are signs of learning .#eltchat<\/a> ] absolutely!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nALiCe__M<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sueleather<\/a> In my eyes, learning a language can have nothing but good effects, teachingwise #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Now, now… did I hear a patronizing tone there??? ;-P #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> That was my original point! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@fionamau<\/a> Books make an issue of a lot of things to fill up the pages – in my view #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @sueleather<\/a> In my eyes, learning a language can have nothing but good effects, teachingwise #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> Perhaps it helps you find ways to approach or mimic the “getting out there” factor in a classroom? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:42 pm<\/a><\/td>\nVictoriaB52<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> I also discovered I learn languages differently to how I teach them. I’m still questioning why.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @VictoriaB52<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> I also discovered I learn languages differently to how I teach them. I’m still questioning why.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @sandymillin<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> but regardless of specifics, all these problems help you remember how hard it is to learn new lang<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: RT @Mbarek<\/a>: I think we should accept errors esp in grammar they are signs of learning .#eltchat<\/a> ] absolutely!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> for example I know that arab ss do not say verb to be because in arabic we do not have it, #eltchat<\/a> it really helps<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> We have multilingual classes here for TPs so the Ts have had to really not rely on L1 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Mbarek<\/a>: I think we should accept errors esp in grammar they are signs of learning .#eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> I’m grammar obsessed when I learn a language now #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:43 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> Love the idea Sandy… What can u guys suggest I can do to have similar effect? (NNEST teaching in home country)? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> – time flies with you all – and I thought this topic was not going to generate many comments! Little did I know…<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThe strategies you can pass on as a language ‘learner’ are often very different from the strategies of the language ‘teacher’ #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> @fionamau<\/a> great plenary by Mark Powell at #BESIG<\/a> on this – present\/past simple make up circa 70% of English usage #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> I did Cert in UK so that was good and used to go back evry summer which helps #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> I remember saying something in past tense (just a phrase I’d heard) – she told me not to use lang we hadn’t learnt! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yes. Making interactions as genuine and relevant as possible. Good! \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: @cecilialcoelho<\/a> I remember saying something in past tense (just a phrase I’d heard) – she told me not to use lang we hadn’t learnt! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Fuertesun<\/a>: @VictoriaB52<\/a> I’m grammar obsessed when I learn a language now #eltchat<\/a> > Is that the teacher experience\/effect? \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nwhen comparing l1& l2 we can expect some of the learners potential errors and prepare remedial work #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:44 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: The strategies you can pass on as a language ‘learner’ are often very different from the strategies of the language ‘teacher’ #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> No idea! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> Summer school good for that as long as you don’t end up teaching one nationality – no issue just to keep ur hand in #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Not exactly what I’d call a constructive teacher now, was she? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> hmm.. that’s harder. #ELTchat<\/a> Any other common lang’s in class? *looks sheepish*<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nVictoriaB52<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI’m a ‘bad’ learner acc. to all the ELT books. I like to swot on my own til I’m confident enough to speak. Sorry. Just am. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Not at all – just a bit of devil’s advocate \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: RT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @sueleather<\/a> In my eyes, learning a language can have nothing but good effects, teachingwise #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:45 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: @fionamau<\/a> Books make an issue o a lot of things 2 fill up the pages – in my view #ELTchat<\/a> they do, & make em scary. Viva dogme<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> strategies you can pass on as a language ‘learner’ often very different from strategies of language ‘teacher’ #ELTChat<\/a> <yes!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @VictoriaB52<\/a>: I’m a ‘bad’ learner acc. to all the ELT books. I like to swot on my own til I’m confident enough to speak #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> And it’s important to remind ourselves our students can be like that #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@sandymillin<\/a> Afraid not… Thanks for sympathizing though \ud83d\ude42 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> I think Mark Powell’s plenary has been recorded and is now available for viewing #besig<\/a> – anyone have link handy? #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nALiCe__M<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Exactement ! but after a while both merge into each other (please correct syntax if necessary!) #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @VictoriaB52<\/a>: I like to swot on my own til I’m confident enough to speak. #eltchat<\/a> > Doubtless you have learners who are similar!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> I also learn differently. Love a good grammar class… #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> Not exactly what I’d call a constructive teacher now, was she? #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> L?ke I said, I quit after 2 weeks! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @annapires<\/a>: Same here! RT @VictoriaB52<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> I also discovered I learn languages differently to how I teach them. I’m still questioning why.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:46 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: The strategies you can pass on as a language ‘learner’ are often very different from the strategies of the language ‘teacher’ #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> I discovered I was fine as far as speaking listening but when it came to reading my first text oh Boy! #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> but still lets you experience what it’s like for learners with similar style to you. Gives thm ‘quiet time’ if thy nd<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> re patronising ;-P, NOT learning local lang & teachg Eng can b seen as imperialistic & patronising<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:47 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> I wonder why u quit after 2 weeks… ;-P (BTW like playing the devil’s advocate too) #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nPeople are all different and there’s no magic formula for language learning. Important to demonstrate that to learners! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: People are all different and there’s no magic formula for language learning. Important to demonstrate that to learners! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @fionamau<\/a>: RT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> #ELTchat<\/a> re patronising ;-P, NOT learning local lang & teachg Eng can b seen as imperialistic & patronising<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> L?ke I said, I quit after 2 weeks! #ELTchat<\/a> < but sure you watched and learnt more things not to do!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nVictoriaB52<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> makes one more confident about challenging perceived ‘right and wrong’ ways of teaching.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> yep – Mark Powell’s #BESIG<\/a> plenary videos here, on Vicky Hollet’s blog + gr8 post by Vicky, too! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:48 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @annapires<\/a> @VictoriaB52<\/a> Well, I learnt my L2 almost entirely out of the classroom – definitely diff. to how I teach! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> @VictoriaB52<\/a> Considering I’m equally grammar abscessed I’d say there’s possbility of it Bing T exp\/effect #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nI lspeak 3 lgs other than my mother tongue and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @VictoriaB52<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> makes one more confident about challenging perceived ‘right and wrong’ ways of teaching.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> yep – Mark Powell’s #BESIG<\/a> plenary videos here,\u00a0+ gr8 post by Vicky, too! #ELTchat<\/a> – THX!!!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> But there will be tidbits and streams that can productively connect the two experiences, right? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:49 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Mbarek<\/a>: I lspeak 3 lgs other than my mother tongue and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Mbarek<\/a>: I lspeak 3 lgs other than my mother tongue and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a>> ..and the lesson in this?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Mbarek<\/a> I lspeak 3 lgs other than my L1 and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a> <me neither, but still learning! nobody’s perfect!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yes – I pass on my vocab learning strategies & self-study ideas to my classes #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@VictoriaB52<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> – ELT books put too much emphasis on speaker-learners and not enough on listener-learners. shd be remedied.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\njbjimenez<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>:Well, I learnt my L2 almost entirely out of the classroom – definitely diff. to how I teach! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @Mbarek<\/a>: I lspeak 3 lgs other than my mother tongue and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a> > .. Perfection not imp<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Agree. It’s more difficult for NNESTs in their own country thou, teaching ppl of same nationality as you #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:50 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n2 dynamics? Lang teacher -> Lang learner \/\/ Lang learner -> Lang teacher #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nYes! RT @englishraven<\/a>: Ppl are all different &there’s no magic formula 4 language learning. Important 2 demonstrate that 2 learners #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlinguaprof<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\ntrue RT @Mbarek<\/a>: when comparing l1& l2 we can expect some of the learners potential errors and prepare remedial work #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @VictoriaB52<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> makes one more confident about challenging perceived ‘right and wrong’ ways of teaching. > Soooo agree!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsheepilamb<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: RT @Mbarek<\/a>: I think we should accept errors esp in grammar they are signs of learning .#eltchat<\/a> ] absolutely!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Also, the general experience of having studied another lang from beginner-advanced level is useful whatever the lang #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @VictoriaB52<\/a>: #eltchat<\/a> makes one more confident about challenging perceived ‘right and wrong’ ways of teaching < Agreed! Very interesting<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Yes – I pass on my vocab learning strategies & self-study ideas #ELTchat<\/a> < me 2, lots of varierty as lots of experience!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> just acceptable fluency and accuracy #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:51 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> @Mbarek<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> …empathy ? tolerance of error? more realistic goals for our learners?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Fuertesun<\/a>: RT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT @Mbarek<\/a>: I lspeak 3 lgs other than my mother tongue and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a> > .. Perfection not imp<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\npeterjohnfenton<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @fionamau<\/a>: ELT books put too much emphasis on speaker-learners and not enough on listener-learners. shd be remedied. #ELTchat<\/a> – so true!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Yes, I think there r 2 dynamics. Being a lang T makes u a diff lang learner and the other way around #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @englishraven<\/a> Yes, I think there r 2 dynamics. Being a lang T makes u a diff lang learner and the other way around #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\nALiCe__M<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Who cares about “perfect”? does everyone know every single word in the dictionary? perfection is not life, language is. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: @Fuertesun<\/a> @Mbarek<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> …empathy ? tolerance of error? more realistic goals for our learners? > All of the above \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:52 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nIt’d be interesting to know how many people feel they learnt more on their own, without a teacher #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Mbarek<\/a>: I lspeak 3 lgs other than my mother tongue and I m perfect at none of them \ud83d\ude41 #eltchat<\/a>-> I wouldn’t say I’m prefect at my L1!!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Who cares about “perfect”? does everyone know every single word in the dictionary? perfection is not life, language is. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\ntha aim should not be to speak like a native speaker but to speak fluently #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nhoprea<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nLate again…. sigh!!! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> Right. How I learned an L2 affected my (later) teaching, which in turn affected how I learned an L3! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @ALiCe__M<\/a>: @Marisa_C<\/a> Who cares about “perfect”? does everyone know every single word in the dictionary? perfection is not life, language is. #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> learning Spanish YES on my own…. grammar me and my book German with TV #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Fuertesun<\/a>: @cgoodey<\/a> learning Spanish YES on my own…. grammar me and my book German with TV #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:53 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ALiCe__M<\/a> Indeed – but some people are fearful of making mistakes – there is a Greek term for it “aphasia lathophobic” … #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> I did but I was in a total immersion situation, which obviously changes things #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@fionamau<\/a> not at all \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@ALiCe__M<\/a> I personally think perfection is an illusion, and even if it existed, it’d be boring as heck \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nSo I recommend an ongoing cycle, I guess… Learn an L2, teach, learn more (or another L2), teach, etc… \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @ALiCe__M<\/a> I personally think perfection is an illusion, and even if it existed, it’d be boring as heck \ud83d\ude42 #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> same here (I think!) I also think that learning subsequent languages felt easier #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:54 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@hoprea<\/a> better late than never…. you have about 6 mins left #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> I’ve not had German tch since school picked up from partner and TV and 12 yrs exposure still very poor #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Right. How I learned an L2 affected my (later) teaching, which in turn affected how I learned an L3! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> Right. How I learned an L2 affected my (later) teaching, which in turn affected how I learned an L3! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@hoprea<\/a> Better late than never Rick – Welcome!!! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDahlD<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: RT@cecilialcoelho<\/a> Right. How I learned an L2 affected my (later) teaching, which in turn affected how I learned an L3! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nvbenevolofranca<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> I actually think it depends on learning style. I need a teacher – way I learnt French. Feel lost without one. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> I like that… always going back to the ST role and so on… #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:55 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAND, this emphasises to me, folks, why it is such a good thing to have our learners ‘teach’ from time to time! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> If you were to begin a new language now, what language would you like to learn?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @vbenevolofranca<\/a>: @cgoodey<\/a> I actually think it depends on learning style. I need a teacher – way I learnt French. Feel lost without one. #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDahlD<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nAgreed! RT @englishraven<\/a>: This emphasises to me, folks, why it is such a good thing to have our learners ‘teach’ from time to time! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: AND, this emphasises to me, folks, why it is such a good thing to have our learners ‘teach’ from time to time! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vbenevolofranca<\/a> @cgoodey<\/a> I think it depends on learning style, as well. Love languages, but find grammar a tad dull, tbh \ud83d\ude42 … #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> oh yes love getting them up at that board.. #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vbenevolofranca<\/a> natural liguistic environment can be the best teacher #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> French #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:56 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Students teaching was how I started this – happy my co-mod is in perfect synch! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nlolonagi<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> yay French #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> Going back to being a student is a good idea – problem is, most of the time you go back as a beginner #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> I think I learn better w\/ a teacher. Feel V insecure of being wrong if I don’t have one to help me #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> Divide a coursebook unit into parts, have teams teach each part. Wonderful experience! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @cgoodey<\/a> I think I learn better w\/ a teacher. Feel V insecure of being wrong if I don’t have one to help me #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vbenevolofranca<\/a> @cgoodey<\/a> as a learner, much prefer a dogme approach.. which has prob. influenced my teaching style as well #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: @Fuertesun<\/a> Divide a coursebook unit into parts, have teams teach each part. Wonderful experience! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Yes, unscripted too! Great minds and all that… \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:57 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: “aphasia lathophobic” #eltchat<\/a> >I am in sme languages, but not in others. Why?schizo?or is it the feel of the language?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Being a beginner makes me anxious, I agree. But no other way #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> nice idea… the other day in secondary had them explaing there is\/are to eachother #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@vbenevolofranca<\/a> @ALiCe__M<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> @DaveDodgson<\/a> @cecilialcoelho<\/a> I think I prefered to have a teacher too, initially anyway #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> Modern Greek \ud83d\ude09 Or something with a different system…arabic, chinese, korean…<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:58 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDahlD<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nMakes us better teachers. RT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @DaveDodgson<\/a> Being a beginner makes me anxious, I agree. But no other way #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> love giving them the mantle and trying to get them responsible for ‘weaker’ ss #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cgoodey<\/a> Depends on the teacher \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@fionamau<\/a> Not sure – I have same issue with some, My own theory is that it’s unfamiliar music\/tunes till I get it #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> Also helps them to appreciate what you do as a teacher, how difficult it can be, how good at it you are \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> Yes! Very true \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Fuertesun<\/a>: @englishraven<\/a> love giving them the mantle and trying to get them responsible for ‘weaker’ ss #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9:59 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DahlD<\/a> Agreed… All experiences make us better teachers because we have the ability to learn from them and use that #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> hahahha have you read that post! I may nvr live it down #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @vbenevolofranca<\/a>: I actually think it depends on learning style. #ELTchat<\/a> totally agree – some are teacher-dependent, some are not.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Fuertesun<\/a> @englishraven<\/a> #ELTChat<\/a> There’s been great research on this – Ss helping weaker Ss or of lower levels even<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nBig question I guess… Should a portion of formal ongoing PD involve learning other languages? #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> Interesting in those situations how many students go for a ‘teacher’ fromted lesson! #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> @Fuertesun<\/a> I personally think I quit French because I thought my teacher came unprepared to class #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:00 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @cecilialcoelho<\/a>: @DahlD<\/a> Agreed… All experiences make us better teachers because we have the ability to learn from them and use that #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> helps them be less competitive about learning if they’re responsible for the grp learning #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: #ELTchat<\/a> If you were to begin a new language now, what language would you like to learn? >> me, Portuguese and Arabic<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nThank you all for this great conversation! Thanks for participating in the last #ELTchat<\/a> for 2010. We take a break next week!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @englishraven<\/a>: Big question I guess… Should a portion of formal ongoing PD involve learning other languages? #ELTChat<\/a> [ gets my vote!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> @cgoodey<\/a> It always depends on the T. I think we should consider Ts here the ones who take it seriously \ud83d\ude09 #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#eltchat<\/a> < impromptu survey based on our discussion…took me 2 minutes so not complete reliable!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nenglishraven<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nGotta go, folks! Kids in the car waiting for me to take ’em to kinder! Just ducked in to help mi mate @Marisa_C<\/a> \ud83d\ude42 #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Thank you all for this great conversation! Thanks for participating in the last #ELTchat<\/a> for 2010. We take a break next week!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\ni learnt French at school but TV taught me how to use it in communication #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nhoprea<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nA merry X-mas to all #ELTChat<\/a> tweeps! \ud83d\ude42<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nFuertesun<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@DaveDodgson<\/a> YES the power… #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> That’s a good question Jason! I think it can’t be mandatory but should be encouraged #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\nfionamau<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @esolcourses<\/a>: I think it depends on learning style, as well. Love languages, but find grammar a tad dull, tbh \ud83d\ude42 … #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:01 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @Marisa_C<\/a>: Thank you all for this great conversation! Thanks for participating in the last #ELTchat<\/a> for 2010. We take a break next week!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMarisa_C<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n#ELTchat<\/a> – And many many thanks to all those who chipped in @esolcourses<\/a>, @ceciliacoelho<\/a> and my co-moderator @englishraven<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncecilialcoelho<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Have a good day Jason! #ELTChat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @hoprea<\/a>: A merry X-mas to all #ELTChat<\/a> tweeps! \ud83d\ude42 Hear hear!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\ncgoodey<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> @vbenevolofranca<\/a> Again it comes down 2 every1 being different! Need broad understanding of different ways &preferences #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsandymillin<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@cecilialcoelho<\/a> #eltchat<\/a> definitely quit one French class as teacher v. bad (& that was b4 my CELTA!), but still learnt French<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:02 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDahlD<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: RT @hoprea<\/a>: A merry X-mas to all #ELTChat<\/a> tweeps! \ud83d\ude42 Hear hear!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nDaveDodgson<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@englishraven<\/a> Great to have our missing mod back! Have a good ‘un #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nMbarek<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@esolcourses<\/a> Thank you too #ELTchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nsueleather<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\n@Marisa_C<\/a> Thanks Marisa and all #eltchat<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10:03 pm<\/a><\/td>\nesolcourses<\/a>:<\/strong><\/td>\nRT @DaveDodgson<\/a>: RT @hoprea<\/a>: A merry X-mas to all #ELTChat<\/a> tweeps! \ud83d\ude42 Hear hear! [ thirded! Happy Holidays, everyone!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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