How can we convince colleagues that online Professional Development is as valuable as face-to-face?
Transcript for January 5, 2011 9 p.m. GMT
9:00 pm | Marisa_C: | For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat – pls join into our conversation ! |
9:00 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat – pls join into our conversation ! |
9:01 pm | vickyloras: | @Marisa_C Thank you! #ELTchat |
9:01 pm | Marisa_C: | Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat |
9:01 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat > mine too – pls join into our conversation ! |
9:01 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat |
9:02 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 and @vickyloras will help me with moderationso @riberni can go back to her trainees π #ELTchat |
9:02 pm | bcnpaul1: | so, does anyone have any examples of where they’ve encouraged online PD succesfully #eltchat |
9:02 pm | rliberni: | @Marisa_C thanks Marisa @cecilialcoelho will represent us as we play charades! #eltchat |
9:03 pm | bcnpaul1: | I know I’ve tried (as have others) but converting people is difficult #eltchat |
9:03 pm | sandymillin: | @bcnpaul1 #eltchat Finally got 3 colleagues to join Twitter (1 today!) @Lilinka21 π |
9:03 pm | esolcourses: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat > mine too – pls join into our conversation ! |
9:03 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat |
9:03 pm | esolcourses: | RT @bcnpaul1: so, does anyone have any examples of where they’ve encouraged online PD succesfully #eltchat |
9:03 pm | sandymillin: | RT @bcnpaul1: I know I’ve tried (as have others) but converting people is difficult #eltchat |
9:03 pm | bcnpaul1: | @sandymillin how did you manage it? #eltchat |
9:04 pm | SueannaN: | Sorry I’m late #ELTchat |
9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | I think it was @Sueannan who suggested this topic and it was the most popular in our poll #ELTchat |
9:04 pm | sandymillin: | @bcnpaul1 #eltchat By keep telling them about all the amazing things I’ve found through my PLN – now have to get them to use it nt jst look! |
9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | Do any of you face problems with colleagues #ELTchat |
9:04 pm | carlaraguseo: | In open online PD you don’t get a certificate but you are empowered as a teacher. #ELTchat |
9:05 pm | vickyloras: | It may be useful to show them a sample of online PD,to see what is going on #ELTChat |
9:05 pm | bcnpaul1: | @sandymillin I think that’s sometimes the big thing – getting ppl to stay interested #eltchat |
9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @carlaraguseo: In open online PD you don’t get a certificate but you are empowered as a teacher. #ELTchat |
9:05 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat – pls join into our conversation ! |
9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @vickyloras: It may be useful to show them a sample of online PD,to see what is going on #ELTChat |
9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: @sandymillin I think that’s sometimes the big thing – getting ppl to stay interested #eltchat |
9:05 pm | esolcourses: | @bcnpaul1 I’ve had some success with getting collegues to use online tools, but no joy with social media tools or blogging #eltchat |
9:05 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C: I think it was @Sueannan who suggested this topic and it was the most popular in our poll #ELTchat |
9:06 pm | JoshSRound: | @sandymillin brilliant! Thanks!!! #eltchat |
9:06 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @esolcourses: @bcnpaul1 I’ve had sm success with getting collegues to use online tools, but not w/social media tools or blogging #eltchat |
9:06 pm | cecilialcoelho: | For the next hour my tweets will be for #ELTChat |
9:06 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat @bcnpaul1 :@Lilinka21 has also just finished COLT (IH Cert in Online Teaching) so had push from there too |
9:06 pm | JoshSRound: | Having my tea but will try to chip in. Really interested in how to persuade colleagues about valuable online PD #eltchat |
9:06 pm | esolcourses: | Most of my collegues are seriously overworked – when I try to get them interested, usual response is “not enough hours in the day” #ELTChat |
9:06 pm | sram_socrates: | @esolcourses our principal has had some success with the blogging aspect but SM is still a struggle #eltchat |
9:06 pm | vickyloras: | Some find it difficult to believe that Twitter is one of the best ways of PD you can get-until I describe to them what we are doing #ELTChat |
9:06 pm | carlaraguseo: | I’ve been inviting colleages to EVO for years.Little more and more teachers are joining and inviting more collegues to join in. #ELTchat |
9:07 pm | europeaantje: | RT @esolcourses: Most of my collegues are seriously overworked – when I try to get them interested, usual response is “not enough hours in the day” #ELTChat |
9:07 pm | bcnpaul1: | @esolcourses that’s thing I think – some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat |
9:07 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @esolcourses I have the same response Sue… I tell them you give as much time as you want #ELTChat |
9:07 pm | DaveDodgson: | Hello all. A little late but ready for another round of #ELTchat |
9:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @carlaraguseo: I’ve been inviting colleages to EVO for years. more teachers are joining and inviting more collegues to join in. #ELTchat |
9:07 pm | europeaantje: | RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks’ #eltchat |
9:07 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat |
9:07 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @DaveDodgson #ELTchat Better late than never π |
9:08 pm | Marisa_C: | @carlaraguseo Great! Will be doing some sessions on one of the EVO courses this year!!! π #ELTchat |
9:08 pm | SueannaN: | RT @europeaantje: RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks’ #eltchat |
9:08 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat Most teachers here (and everywhr I thnk) have so mny demands on their time) – how can we mk attrctive wthout seeming timeconsuming? |
9:08 pm | carlaraguseo: | I’ve seen a great change in teachers’ attitude in #Arg although many are still reluctant #ELTchat |
9:08 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Most teachers here (and everywhr I thnk) have so mny demands on their time) – how can we mk attrctive wthout seeming timeconsuming? |
9:08 pm | europeaantje: | RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat | oh yes |
9:08 pm | JoshSRound: | @vickyloras absolutely agree vicky, colleagues I’ve mentioned twitter to simply raise their eyebrows #eltchat |
9:08 pm | cecilialcoelho: | My biggest problem is showing colleagues the many benefits of online PD #ELTChat |
9:08 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat Also difficult for techphobics |
9:08 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @Marisa_C: Our topic this evening: “How can we convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as face-to-face? ” #ELTchat |
9:08 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @europeaantje: RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks’ #eltchat |
9:08 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cecilialcoelho: My biggest problem is showing colleagues the many benefits of online PD #ELTChat > u not the only one |
9:08 pm | graingered: | @Marisa_C You can’t because it isnt. Not to devalue online PD, but in-person trumps online in so many meaningful ways. #ELTchat |
9:08 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @SueAnnan: I find that my colleagues dismiss online PD out of hand and think it is only for ‘geeks #ELTchat |
9:08 pm | SueannaN: | RT @europeaantje: RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses some ppl just want the material from others without really engaging in how it gets discovered #eltchat | oh yes |
9:09 pm | bcnpaul1: | it’s true – ppl think twitter & blogging / reading blogs is for geeks #eltchat |
9:09 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat Maybe we could come up with a 3 minute YouTube on quickly joining in online PD – easier to access / respond to than many webpages! |
9:09 pm | europeaantje: | @cecilialcoelho my colleahues see the benefits but donΒ΄t get into it #ELTChat |
9:09 pm | vickyloras: | @sram_socrates Hi Shawn!Nice to see you here again – welcome! #ELTChat |
9:09 pm | JoshSRound: | @sandymillin #eltchat time management is very much an issue – how do ppl deal with info overload? |
9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @graingered: @Marisa_C You can’t because it isnt. Not to devalue online PD, but in-person trumps online in so many ways. #ELTchat |
9:09 pm | chriscattaneo: | ?@bcnpaul1: it’s true – ppl think twitter & blogging / reading blogs is for geeks #eltchat? That is changing a bit….. |
9:09 pm | bcnpaul1: | and that geeks = negative but there’s so much there to stimulate our work #eltchat |
9:09 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @europeaantje That’s what happened after my sharing session Guido, a couple even joined twitter, but never tweeted after that #ELTChat |
9:10 pm | sram_socrates: | @JoshSRound favorite, bookmark, store and deal with it when U have time #eltchat |
9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | @graingered I do both as a trainer and each one has a different type of value and for different reasons and stages in a T’s career #ELTchat |
9:10 pm | sandymillin: | @JoshSRound #eltchat Info overload is about filtering – easier for me as I grew up with this, but takes practice |
9:10 pm | DaveDodgson: | @bcnpaul1 A lot of people think of Twitter as a purely social tool as well (I certainly used to!) #ELTchat |
9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @JoshSRound: @vickyloras absolutely agree vicky, colleagues I’ve mentioned twitter to simply raise their eyebrows #eltchat |
9:10 pm | bcnpaul1: | @ChrisCattaneo I agree – let’s hope it continues #eltchat |
9:10 pm | vickyloras: | @JoshSRound Yes!In the beginning they cannot quite realize what is happening…until they see it! #ELTChat |
9:10 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @ChrisCattaneo I agree with you on that Chris…changing, but too slowly for my taste #eltchat |
9:10 pm | europeaantje: | @cecilialcoelho think 10 of my colleagues r on twitter: 1 lurks 1 only retweets, rest dropped it #ELTChat |
9:10 pm | sandymillin: | RT @sram_socrates: @JoshSRound favorite, bookmark, store and deal with it when U have time #eltchat <normal response = what time? |
9:11 pm | sram_socrates: | @DaveDodgson I did too at first, but one needs to experience it and invest a little time to understand the benefits #eltchat |
9:11 pm | Marisa_C: | @JoshSRound Fellow course tutors/teacher trainers have the same sort of reaction – so why wonder? It begins with us the trainers #eltchat |
9:11 pm | brightideasblog: | RT @esolcourses: Most of my collegues are seriously overworked – when I try to get them interested, usual response is “not enough hours in the day” #ELTChat |
9:11 pm | carlaraguseo: | Online PD implies active engagement and participation in your professional community. Empowrement #ELTchat |
9:11 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @vickyloras I get that too Vicky… I have heard “You think twitter is the best thing, don’t you? ” a couple of times… Yes I do! #ELTChat |
9:11 pm | bcnpaul1: | @DaveDodgson exactly – that’s what needs to be communicated – that it’s much more than what i had for breakfast #eltchat |
9:11 pm | sandymillin: | RT @sram_socrates: @DaveDodgsonone needs to experience it and invest a little time #eltchat<investing time is the hard part |
9:11 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @vickyloras I get that too Vicky… I have heard “You think twitter is the best thing, don’t you? ” a couple of times… Yes I do! #ELTChat |
9:11 pm | sram_socrates: | @sandymillin There is always time, in the tub, at the doc office, nightly reading slowly is better then never #eltchat |
9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @sram_socrates: @DaveDodgsonone needs to experience it and invest a little time #eltchat<investing time is the hard part |
9:12 pm | esolcourses: | @cecilialcoelho @europeaantje have had the same thing happen as well, i.e. people to sign up to Twitter, but they don’t tweet #ELTChat |
9:12 pm | vickyloras: | @graingered Yes,but now in the time of video and Skype,even online PD has become more personalized in my opinion #ELTChat |
9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @sram_socrates: @sandymillin There is always time, in the tub, at the doc office, nightly reading slowly is better then never #eltchat |
9:12 pm | DaveDodgson: | An issue for some teachers I know is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – they want PD to contained in work hours #ELTchat |
9:12 pm | DinaDobrou: | Hello all. #eltchat |
9:12 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 @esolcourses I agree with you Paul, but at the same time I’ve gotten a couple of ppl to at least look at it coz of my it #eltchat |
9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @DaveDodgson: An issue for some teachers I know is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – they want PD in work hours #ELTchat |
9:12 pm | JoshSRound: | @sandymillin #eltchat yes, have marked faves to read later, often struggle to get round to doing it, still good intentions π |
9:12 pm | bcnpaul1: | @DaveDodgson i agree but wonder if that’s something to do with enjoying teaching as well #eltchat |
9:13 pm | europeaantje: | @cecilialcoelho @ChrisCattaneo @esolcourses mind you i had been on twitter for 7months before i started tweeting so hope not dead #ELTChat |
9:13 pm | sandymillin: | RT @DaveDodgson: An issue is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – PD to contained in work hours #ELTchat <my cllgs believe! |
9:13 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 @esolcourses (re material and resources we learn about in twitter and blogs) #eltchatprevious tweet |
9:13 pm | vickyloras: | @cecilialcoelho Same here!I tell them I’ve learnt more in a yr than in uni for 4,without wanting to underestimate that time either #ELTchat |
9:13 pm | DaveDodgson: | @bcnpaul1 You may have a point there π #ELTchat |
9:13 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @DaveDodgson: An issue for some teachers I know is that online PD is seen to ‘invade’ free time – they want PD to contained in work hours #ELTchat |
9:13 pm | carlaraguseo: | @JoshSRound Agree. Big change starts when teacher trainers get it and share it with trainees #ELTchat |
9:13 pm | sandymillin: | RT @bcnpaul1: @DaveDodgson i agree but wonder if tht’s something to do with enjoying teaching as well #eltchat <think it could be! love job! |
9:13 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: @JoshSRound Fellow course tutors/teacher trainers have the same sort of reaction – so why wonder? It begins with us the trainers #eltchat |
9:13 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @europeaantje: @cecilialcoelho @ChrisCattaneo @esolcourses mind you i had been on twitter for 7months before i started tweeting so hope not dead #ELTChat |
9:13 pm | vickyloras: | @DinaDobrou Kalos orises – welcome, Dina! #ELTChat |
9:14 pm | Marisa_C: | A lot of state school Ts in Greece have similiar attitude – PD in working hours & be paid for it too! #ELTchat – other countries? |
9:14 pm | SueannaN: | RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD implies active engagement and participation in your professional community. Empowrement #ELTchat |
9:14 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C @DaveDodgson True, and some don’t want to bother learning how to use yet Another social medium. #ELTchat |
9:14 pm | bcnpaul1: | I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat |
9:14 pm | europeaantje: | RT @ChrisCattaneo: @esolcourses @cecilialcoelho @europeaantje I think it’s ok to lurk for a while, don’t you ? #eltchat |
9:14 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat |
9:14 pm | chriscattaneo: | @esolcourses @cecilialcoelho @europeaantje I think it’s ok to lurk for a while, don’t you ?? #ELTchat |
9:15 pm | esolcourses: | @ChrisCattaneo @europeaantje @cecilialcoelho absolutely fine to lurk – ppl I know don’t lurk, tho – they signed up, then dropped it #ELTChat |
9:15 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @europeaantje: I think it’s ok to lurk for a while, don’t you ? #eltchat> A time for lurking is not bad – to get used to the medium |
9:15 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje lurking’s absolutely fine – I think ppl are afraid to tweet #eltchat |
9:15 pm | vickyloras: | RT @bcnpaul1 I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a gr8energiser #eltchat >>Same here,brink of burnout |
9:15 pm | sandymillin: | RT @vickyloras: RT @bcnpaul1 I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a gr8energiser #eltchat >>Same here,brink of burnout |
9:15 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat |
9:15 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou DIna, how long did it take you before u got ur first tweet out? #ELTchat |
9:15 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started twting – online PD is a gr8 energiser #eltchat > Same here, gave me new air |
9:15 pm | esolcourses: | RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD implies active engagement and participation in your professional community. Empowrement #ELTchat |
9:15 pm | DaveDodgson: | @bcnpaul1 Is it fair to say teachers who want to be involved in online PD will be? Difficult to engage the others? #ELTchat |
9:15 pm | bcnpaul1: | i try to tell ppl they don’t have to tweet – just follow lots of ppl and get ideas / twittertim.es / follow #eltchat etc. |
9:15 pm | vbenevolofranca: | Coming in a bit late here. Sort of think it has 2 do with “learning” & “training” styles. #eltchat |
9:15 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 for as much as we are welcoming people twitterΒ΄s still a bit daunting at first π #eltchat |
9:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: i try to tell ppl they don’t have to tweet – just follow lots of ppl and get ideas / twittertim.es / follow #eltchat etc. |
9:16 pm | SueannaN: | I feel more empowered and more enthusiastic after an #ELTchat session. It shows in the classroom, which has to be a good thing, surely |
9:16 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 for as much as we are welcoming people twitterΒ΄s still a bit daunting at first π #eltchat > definitely agree |
9:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: : @bcnpaul1 for as much as we are welcoming people twitterΒ΄s still a bit daunting at first π #eltchat > definitely agree |
9:16 pm | DaveDodgson: | @cecilialcoelho And at Christmas, new hair as well :p #ELTchat |
9:16 pm | sram_socrates: | @ChrisCattaneo Totally understand your pain, it seems most days I talk more to my PLN than my colleagues #eltchat |
9:16 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @DaveDodgson @bcnpaul1 I think you’re mostly right Dave, but some can be “lured”in #ELTchat |
9:16 pm | chriscattaneo: | ?@sandymillin: #eltchat Maybe we could come up with a 3 minute YouTube on quickly joining in online PD – (cont)Β http://tl.gd/7uoqsa |
9:16 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @DaveDodgson Of course… a commplete new hairdo and a possible side career!!! π #ELTchat |
9:17 pm | JoshSRound: | @cecilialcoelho Have to admit to doing plenty of lurking since joining twitter – lots to digest initially #eltchat |
9:17 pm | vbenevolofranca: | @Marisa_C This is true as well here in Brazil. I understand this: some struggle 2 make a living teaching in 3 different schools! #ELTChat |
9:17 pm | esolcourses: | Took me a month or two at least to figure out Twitter, and even after that, a few more months b4 I really started to see the point #ELTchat |
9:17 pm | vickyloras: | @vbenevolofranca It is about how to convince colleagues that online PD is as valuable as f2f – Hi Valeria! #ELTCHat |
9:17 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cecilialcoelho ‘lured in’ π sounds a bit dodgy! π #eltchat |
9:17 pm | Marisa_C: | Wrote a blog post about that sm time ago – was a bit fed up but got some v g comments by PLNhttp://bit.ly/9EM79e #ELTchat |
9:17 pm | europeaantje: | RT @JoshSRound: @cecilialcoelho Have to admit to doing plenty of lurking since joining twitter – lots to digest initially #eltchat |
9:17 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @JoshSRound I think we all go through that Josh…scary at first, intimidating really #eltchat |
9:18 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C It was quite a while. And, yes, I did lurk at the beginning. But even that was useful. #ELTchat |
9:18 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho “luring in the lurkers” hahaha #eltchat |
9:18 pm | sandymillin: | RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho “luring in the lurkers” hahaha #eltchat |
9:18 pm | bcnpaul1: | I think lurking has to translate into participation at some point though – agree? #eltchat |
9:18 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 Bad choice of words… my bad π Let’s say some can be shown the light??? Too ethereal?? LOL #eltchat |
9:18 pm | Marisa_C: | @graingered I agree they complement each other – there are elements of teaching (esp Teaching Practice) which need to be done f2f #ELTchat |
9:18 pm | vickyloras: | RT @SueAnnan Feel more empowered and more enthusiastic after an #ELTchat session.Shows in the classroom,which has to be a good thing,surely |
9:18 pm | sram_socrates: | @europeaantje I would say that lurking is always a good way to start, U get to understand how things works #eltchat |
9:18 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho “luring in the lurkers” hahaha #eltchat |
9:19 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C It was quite a while. And, yes, I did lurk at the beginning. But even that was useful. #ELTchat > π |
9:19 pm | europeaantje: | RT @sram_socrates: @europeaantje I would say that lurking is always a good way to start, U get to understand how things works #eltchat |
9:19 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C Wrote a blog post about that sm time ago – was a bit fed up but got some v g comments by PLNΒ http://bit.ly/9EM79e #ELTchat |
9:19 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 Lurking moves into participation when confidence is built. But sometimes it takes one to reach the other. Make sense? #eltchat |
9:19 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: Wrote a blog post about that sm time ago – was a bit fed up but got some v g comments by PLNΒ http://bit.ly/9EM79e #ELTchat |
9:19 pm | SueannaN: | My Online PD even raised an eyebrow at recent BC inspection #eltCHAT |
9:19 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cecilialcoelho maybe, although I like it – what about ‘enticed’ mmm, still dodgy π #eltchat |
9:19 pm | sram_socrates: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: I think i was a bit bored in my job before started tweeting – online PD is a great energiser #eltchat |
9:19 pm | Marisa_C: | @vbenevolofranca Same info re France – at #TESOLfr state school Ts only a v small handful – even though f2f!!! #ELTChat |
9:20 pm | Xiniaa: | @Marisa_C In Jordan, PD is done on the weekend without overtime or compensation- no wonder teachers hate it #ELTchat #Jo |
9:20 pm | bcnpaul1: | @SueAnnan ooh – explain #eltchat |
9:20 pm | vbenevolofranca: | @vickyloras Hi Vicky! True, does take time to convince trainers. They need to experience it! #ELTchat |
9:20 pm | DaveDodgson: | Perception is an issue too: eg some colleagues dont get the idea of online conferences. They dont believe you just log on & watch #ELTchat |
9:20 pm | chriscattaneo: | I think good moderation is useful….where new contributors to chats like this r acknowledged and welcomed #eltchat |
9:20 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat Come into my web, said the spider to the fly π |
9:20 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @ChrisCattaneo: I think good moderation is useful….where new contributors 2 chats like this r acknowledged & welcomed #eltchat > Agree! |
9:20 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cecilialcoelho perfect sense – noone should be forced or pushed but there’s so much more to be gained thru interaction #eltchat |
9:20 pm | sandymillin: | RT @chriscattaneo: I think good moderation is useful….where new contributors to chats like this r acknowledged and welcomed #eltchat |
9:20 pm | DinaDobrou: | I shld probably send my colleagues a copy of the transcript to convince them cos other ways of inviting them on here didn’t work. #ELTchat |
9:21 pm | vickyloras: | @graingered Surely not,but has made things easier and a bit more personal #ELTChat |
9:21 pm | wellingtonros: | RT @DinaDobrou: I shld probably send my colleagues a copy of the transcript to convince them cos other ways of inviting them on here didn’t work. #ELTchat |
9:21 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Come into my web, said the spider to the fly π |
9:21 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 And sometimes you need to start interacting, push yrself to it to see u can contribute #eltchat |
9:21 pm | sandymillin: | RT @DinaDobrou: I shld probably send my colleagues a copy of the transcript . #ELTchat <first transcripts I read confused me so much I stpd |
9:21 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cecilialcoelho definitely. I think there are so many benefits #eltchat |
9:21 pm | SueannaN: | @bcnpaul1 I think that the inspectors were not very switched on to tech themselves, and didn’t really see it as a positive thing #eltchat |
9:21 pm | esolcourses: | RT @SueAnnan: My Online PD even raised an eyebrow at recent BC inspection #eltCHAT ] hope it was the good kind of raised eyebrow… |
9:22 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 I felt very intimidated and that I had nothing to contribute at first… Sometimes still do, but go ahead anyway #eltchat |
9:22 pm | bcnpaul1: | online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat |
9:22 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat |
9:22 pm | Xiniaa: | @europeaantje @marisa_c Not for in-service teachers; it’s mandatory #ELTchat #Jo |
9:23 pm | JoshSRound: | @DaveDodgson We come back to the idea that real world & face 2 face is always more stimulating. Hard one to overcome #eltchat |
9:23 pm | cecilialcoelho: | Am not going to mention any names (@wellingtonros ) but am trying to get a friend across the table to do his 1st #ELTChat tweet |
9:23 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 In fact there have been some grt convos here WHILE following online conferences or webinars #eltchat |
9:23 pm | sram_socrates: | @Marisa_C Online PD is also great for those of us that are in remote loactions #eltchat |
9:23 pm | bcnpaul1: | @SueAnnan that sounds like a very BC thing π #eltchat |
9:23 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat |
9:23 pm | SueannaN: | @esolcourses Unfortunately not π #eltCHAT |
9:23 pm | sandymillin: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 felt very intimidated, I had nothing to contribute at first… Sometimes still do, but do newy #eltchat <me 2 |
9:23 pm | carlaraguseo: | Some collegues are not used to being in control of their own PD when, where, with whom #ELTchat |
9:23 pm | esolcourses: | RT @DaveDodgson: some colleagues dont get the idea of online conferences. They dont believe you just log on & watch #ELTchat |
9:23 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 And sometimes you need to start interacting, push yrself to it to see u can contribute #eltchat |
9:23 pm | vickyloras: | Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat |
9:23 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Online PD is also great for those of us that are in remote loactions #eltchat > absolutely |
9:23 pm | europeaantje: | vamos! @wellingtonros #ELTChat |
9:23 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @vickyloras: RT @SueAnnan Feel more empowered and more enthusiastic after an #ELTchatsession.Shows in the classroom..>Mini workshop |
9:24 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 In fact there have been some grt convos here WHILE following online conferences or webinars #eltchat |
9:24 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @europeaantje: vamos! @wellingtonros #ELTChat |
9:24 pm | SueannaN: | RT @bcnpaul1: @SueAnnan that sounds like a very BC thing π #eltchat Yes but reinforces prejudice among colleagues |
9:24 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat |
9:24 pm | esolcourses: | @SueAnnan oh dear… have to admit to being disappointed and surprised by that #ELTChat |
9:24 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @DaveDodgson: RT @bcnpaul1: online PD is a great way for teachers who are busy & can’t attend trad. PD in house or go to conferences #eltchat |
9:24 pm | bcnpaul1: | @JoshSRound why do you think f2f is more stimulating #eltchat |
9:24 pm | carlaraguseo: | Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat |
9:24 pm | sandymillin: | RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way. #ELTchat <it’s the will you have to encourage! |
9:25 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @bcnpaul1 I felt very intimidated and that I had nothing to contribute at first… Sometimes still do, but go ahead anyway #eltchat |
9:25 pm | vickyloras: | RT @sram_socrates : @Marisa_C Online PD is also great4 those of us that are in remote locations #eltchat >>Definitely!Excellent point Shawn |
9:25 pm | Marisa_C: | So, What solutions can think up? Can anyone suggest a solution? (this is my talk at IATEFL tho I didn’t propose the topic π #ELTchat |
9:25 pm | europeaantje: | @vickyloras there you said it Vicky “we love it” but we cant force anyone to love PD #ELTchat |
9:25 pm | DaveDodgson: | @JoshSRound When I did a webinar, many of my colleagues thought I’d be going to some kind of studio to do it! #ELTchat |
9:25 pm | SueannaN: | RT @sram_socrates: @Marisa_C Online PD is also great for those of us that are in remote loactions #eltchat> I agree entirely |
9:25 pm | sandymillin: | RT @bcnpaul1: @JoshSRound why do you think f2f is more stimulating #eltchat <depends on who f2f is with! |
9:25 pm | bcnpaul1: | @SueAnnan very true #eltchat |
9:26 pm | willycard: | RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C Almost all have emails. Send them the #ELTchat transcript? |
9:26 pm | Marisa_C: | Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat > Hear hear Carla! |
9:26 pm | SueannaN: | RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | wellingtonros: | RT @europeaantje: @vickyloras there you said it Vicky “we love it” but we cant force anyone to love PD #ELTchat But we can show its benefits |
9:26 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | chriscattaneo: | Everyone on the Online Tutoring course i did recently already had some/a little online experience. Question is…where to START?? #ELTChat |
9:26 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | vickyloras: | @europeaantje You’re right….only if they are really interested Guido : ) #ELTChat |
9:26 pm | zbpipe: | RT @vickyloras: Most common excuse-no time.Where there’s a will,there’s a way.We don’t have 36 hrs in a day either.But we do it and we love it! #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Marisa_C: So, What solutions can think up? Can anyone suggest a solution? (this is my talk at IATEFL tho I didn’t propose the topic π #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | carlaraguseo: | It’s a different learning culture #ELTchat |
9:26 pm | sram_socrates: | @Marisa_C Yet these are also the same PPL that complain at PD that they are bored or they wouldn’t have chosen it #eltchat |
9:26 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat |
9:27 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: So, What solutions can think up? Can anyone suggest a solution? (this is my talk at IATEFL tho I didn’t propose the topic π #ELTchat |
9:27 pm | DaveDodgson: | @Marisa_C Whenever I attend/present at a conference, I get funny looks from the same people. “Why give up your Saturday?” #ELTchat |
9:27 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @Marisa_C MAybe an idea would be DOS “suggesting” Ts taking part in a webinar??? So they could see one of the benefits firsthand? #ELTchat |
9:27 pm | bcnpaul1: | @JoshSRound I agree f2f is stimulating but online PD can connect you with so many more ppl that you wd otherwise not meet. #eltchat |
9:27 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @carlaraguseo: It’s a different learning culture #ELTchat > And has nothing to do with age may I also add |
9:27 pm | esolcourses: | RT @cecilialcoelho: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD changed my practice and my expectations as a teacher #ELTchat > Same here! |
9:27 pm | vbenevolofranca: | @Marisa_C I actually like to show people round and p artner with them for their first try. #eltchat |
9:27 pm | chriscattaneo: | @zbpipe @vickyloras #ELTchat time and money… |
9:27 pm | JoshSRound: | @DaveDodgson Haha! Hhmm, yes, some of mine prob wd as well. I attended a #besig webinar a mth or 2 back – was gr8t. #eltchat |
9:27 pm | vickyloras: | @Marisa_C Perhaps organising a mini-workshop,demonstrating one to let them see the benefits #ELTChat |
9:27 pm | SueannaN: | RT @DinaDobrou: @Marisa_C Almost all have emails. Send them the #ELTchat transcript? I have colleags who don’t read their emails!! |
9:27 pm | gret: | @sram_socrates @Marisa_C Agreed. I think passion for teaching is connected with your attitude towards PD #ELTChat |
9:27 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C I actually like to show people round and p artner with them for their first try. #eltchat |
9:28 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat |
9:28 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C I actually like to show people round and p artner with them for their first try. #eltchat |
9:28 pm | sandymillin: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @Marisa_C MAybe idea wud b DOS “suggsting” Ts tking part in a webinar??? #ELTchat <only works if DOS into tech! mine not |
9:28 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @Marisa_C I think Wellington remembered a valid point : online PD can be quite affordable π #ELTchat |
9:28 pm | GlogsterEDU: | An all-boys school glogs on Women’s Rights:Β http://bit.ly/h6zKaS #elemchat #cpchat #edchat#teaching #ELTchat |
9:28 pm | europeaantje: | @Marisa_C have organised voluntary workshops with some limited results #eltchat |
9:28 pm | Marisa_C: | @vbenevolofranca Your idea of mentoring ‘newbies” is great – I think this is perhaps essential and neglected – taken for granted #eltchat |
9:28 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat ] suspect in many cases, that’s probably true |
9:29 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @sandymillin @Marisa_C Could u convince yr DOS to it maybe? Get him/her onboard with the idea? #ELTchat |
9:29 pm | DaveDodgson: | Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat |
9:29 pm | sram_socrates: | RT @gret: @sram_socrates @Marisa_C Agreed. I think passion for teaching is connected with your attitude towards PD #ELTChat |
9:29 pm | JoshSRound: | @sandymillin true, but you get a set time and place to do it, tea & biscuits too sometimes!! #eltchat |
9:29 pm | Marisa_C: | In Second Life, for example, no one comes into a conference w/o going through a ‘newbie phase #ELTchat – may be same for twitter? |
9:29 pm | SueannaN: | RT @DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat good point |
9:29 pm | wellingtonros: | RT @gret: @sram_socrates @Marisa_C Agreed. I think passion for teaching is connected with your attitude towards PD #ELTChat |
9:29 pm | sram_socrates: | @gret @Marisa_C I couldn’t agree more PD – passion #eltchat |
9:29 pm | DinaDobrou: | @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Quite true but let’s try at least with the ones who DO read them. #ELTchat |
9:29 pm | sandymillin: | @cecilialcoelho #eltchat have been trying to convince DOS, bt she’s currently doing 1.5 ppl’s jobs and running CAM, so pretty busy ,& in USA |
9:29 pm | willycard: | #ELTchat THE greatest things about online PD via Twitter and Blogs is that it’s not top-down + controlled + timed + hierarchical + linear |
9:30 pm | europeaantje: | re mentoring : iΒ΄ve learned more bout IWB software observing a colleague in the staffroom using it than by attending workshops #eltchat |
9:30 pm | sram_socrates: | RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Most people who claim no time are unwilling to do any PD, period #ELTchat ] suspect in many cases, that’s probably true |
9:30 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin Oh… I know … it’s so frustrating, isn’t it! #ELTchat |
9:30 pm | cecilialcoelho: | I’ve had great response to introducing to PLN and asking for a welcome… PLN is always very supportive. #ELTChat |
9:30 pm | sandymillin: | RT @DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat |
9:30 pm | vbenevolofranca: | RT @DaveDodgson: Is Twitter the best place to start? Perhaps we should direct people to blogs first – not so frantic! #ELTchat> Gr8 point |
9:30 pm | europeaantje: | @sandymillin she needs to delegate! #eltchat |
9:30 pm | Xiniaa: | @Marisa_C Incentive and positive reinforcement- but you know the saying about taking a horse to the river;) #ELTchat |
9:30 pm | bcnpaul1: | often in-house PD is paid but online PD isn’t – maybe if it was more ppl would do it #eltchat |
9:30 pm | esolcourses: | @Marisa_C I do think tho that some ppl who genuinely struggle to find time to fit PD in, as I’ve been in that situation myself #ELTchat |
9:30 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @sandymillin U think Ts would come if you were in charge? Would the DOS agree to it? #eltchat |
9:31 pm | DinaDobrou: | @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat |
9:31 pm | SueannaN: | I think it does go back to the trainers. if we introduce it as just another part of the toolkit, we may have more success #ELTChat |
9:31 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cecilialcoelho: I’ve had great response to introducing to PLN and asking for a welcome… PLN is always very supportive. #ELTChat |
9:31 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C I do think tho that some ppl who genuinely struggle to find time to fit PD in, as I’ve been in that situation myself #ELTchat |
9:31 pm | sram_socrates: | @DaveDodgson Blogs can be very intimidating, plus blogging is solo twitter you can learn from everyone #eltchat |
9:31 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @europeaantje: @Marisa_C have organised voluntary workshops with some limited results #eltchat > Me too Guido. |
9:31 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Xiniaa: @Marisa_C Incentive and positive reinforcement- but you know the saying about taking a horse to the river;) #ELTchat > π I do! |
9:31 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat >yes |
9:31 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C: @vbenevolofranca Your idea of mentoring ‘newbies” is great – I think this is perhaps essential and neglected – taken for granted #eltchat |
9:31 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @Marisa_C: @vbenevolofranca Your idea of mentoring newbies” is great – I think this is perhaps essential and neglected…. #Eltchat |
9:31 pm | sandymillin: | RT @europeaantje: @sandymillin she needs to delegate! #eltchat <have been trying to help! |
9:32 pm | Marisa_C: | I offered some free webinars to newbies and even those had little response #ELTchat |
9:32 pm | carlaraguseo: | @willycard PD via Twitter – Blogs is not top-down + controlled + timed + hierarchical + linear <Yes! but many ppl afraid of that! #ELTchat |
9:32 pm | vickyloras: | RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat |
9:32 pm | sandymillin: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @sandymillin U think Ts would come if you were in charge? #eltchat Poss..will be my IHBrno Conference topic π |
9:32 pm | esolcourses: | RT @willycard: #ELTchat THE greatest things about online PD via Twitter and Blogs is that it’s not top-down + controlled + timed + hierarchical + linear |
9:32 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @cecilialcoelho: I’ve had great response to introducing to PLN and asking for a welcome… PLN is always very supportive. #ELTChat |
9:32 pm | DaveDodgson: | @sram_socrates Agreed but I meant recommending blogs to read before directing someone to twitter #ELTchat |
9:32 pm | sram_socrates: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat >yes |
9:32 pm | JoshSRound: | @bcnpaul1 Absolutely agree. An incredible new network #eltchat |
9:32 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @DaveDodgson: Twitter best place 2 start? Perhaps direct ppl to blogs first? – not so frantic! #ELTchat > U might have a point Dave. |
9:33 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @Marisa_C Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. It takes time. #ELTchat >yes |
9:33 pm | esolcourses: | RT @SueannaN: I think it does go back to the trainers. if we introduce it as just another part of the toolkit, we may have more success #ELTChat |
9:33 pm | carlaraguseo: | Online PD is an attitude #ELTchat |
9:33 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @sandymillin Fingers crossed for success at it!!!! May you convert many π #eltchat |
9:33 pm | bcnpaul1: | essentially, the best way to encourage online PD is to show how much it helps you – that’s worked where I work #eltchat |
9:33 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @JoshSRound: @bcnpaul1 Absolutely agree. An incredible new network #eltchat |
9:33 pm | vickyloras: | My dad is a great fan of ours and he is not even a teacher!He says our PD is amazing : ) #ELTChat |
9:33 pm | SueannaN: | @vickyloras There’s a great Free session on mentoring in the EVO sessions #eltchat |
9:33 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @SueannaN: I think it does go back to the trainers. if we introduce it as just another part of the toolkit, we may have more success #ELTChat |
9:34 pm | sandymillin: | RT @vickyloras: My dad is a great fan of ours and he is not even a teacher!He says our PD is amazing : ) #ELTChat <my mum too! |
9:34 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou But while doing a f2f course (like Dina when doing her CELTA) it’s difficult fr trainees to juggle everything #ELTChat |
9:34 pm | vickyloras: | @SueAnnan Oh yeah,thank you for that Sue! #ELTChat |
9:34 pm | vbenevolofranca: | @Marisa_C Too true! V frustrating experience with SL.Got chucked out once because couldn’t control avatar! Twitter doesn’t do that! #eltchat |
9:34 pm | sandymillin: | @SueAnnan #eltchat Can you retweet EVO link? Can’t find it! |
9:34 pm | sram_socrates: | @DaveDodgson Ahh I understand – yes you are very correct, gather the information read and then wade into the waters #eltchat |
9:34 pm | vickyloras: | @sandymillin Ha ha – super parents! #ELTChat |
9:35 pm | europeaantje: | @wellingtonros i very much believe in workshops too, wellington but in this case i was able to discover & try new features w time #eltchat |
9:35 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin It will be in the transcript #eltchat |
9:35 pm | sandymillin: | RT @vickyloras: @sandymillin Ha ha – super parents! #ELTChat I agree! π |
9:35 pm | SueannaN: | @sandymillin I will if I can find it #eltchat |
9:35 pm | europeaantje: | RT @wellingtonros: @europeaantje You may hav a point there, but workshops are quite nice to exchange ideas and develop yours…#eltchat |
9:35 pm | cybraryman1: | Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN StarsΒ http://cybraryman.com/plnstars.html #Eltchat |
9:35 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin It will be in the transcript #eltchat Thanks! |
9:35 pm | carlaraguseo: | Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions, but it may lead to a new professional performance #ELTchat |
9:35 pm | gret: | RT @cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN StarsΒ http://bit.ly/iaeHjZ#Eltchat |
9:35 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions, but it may lead to a new professional performance #ELTchat |
9:35 pm | informed_edu: | #eltchat In my school our best PD is done when we sit in cross-curricular groups and share good ideas. I introduced Twitter this way. |
9:35 pm | sram_socrates: | RT @gret: RT @cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN Starshttp://bit.ly/iaeHjZ #Eltchat |
9:35 pm | sandymillin: | RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchat YET, but hopefully it will be |
9:35 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cecilialcoelho working with YLs is good. if other t’s see you having less discipline probs they want that too π #eltchat |
9:36 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin It will be in the transcript #eltchat Thanks Marisa |
9:36 pm | steve__kirk: | Coming in very late… #eltchat |
9:36 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchatYET, but hopefully it will be #Eltchat |
9:36 pm | steve__kirk: | David White (Oxford U) talks about digital ‘visitors’ and ‘residents’. Perhaps PD needs to encourage Ts to move twds the latter #eltchat |
9:36 pm | Marisa_C: | true online not recognised – can’t imagine getting brownies for clocking into twitter – and YET it’s all happening HERE! #ELTchat |
9:36 pm | DaveDodgson: | Of course, it doesn’t help when Twitter and many blogs are blocked by my school’s webmaster :p #ELTchat |
9:36 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @cybraryman1: Recommend people for newbies to follow My PLN Starshttp://cybraryman.com/plnstars.html #Eltchat |
9:36 pm | carlaraguseo: | EVO linkΒ http://tinyurl.com/29wrpdj #ELTchat |
9:36 pm | ECEWebinars: | RT @cybraryman1: RT @sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchat YET, but hopefully it will be #Eltchat |
9:37 pm | sandymillin: | RT @carlaraguseo: EVO linkΒ http://tinyurl.com/29wrpdj #ELTchat Thanks! |
9:37 pm | europeaantje: | @sram_socrates donΒ΄t agree: blogs are basically reading (leave comment opt) twitter obviously faster & more furious #eltchat |
9:37 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @steve__kirk: David White talks about digital ‘visitors’ & ‘residents’. Perhaps PD needs to encourage Ts to move twds the latter #eltchat |
9:37 pm | bcnpaul1: | @DaveDodgson twitter’s blocked! I thought where I worked was bad for that, but twitter…!! #eltchat |
9:37 pm | vickyloras: | RT @informed_edu #eltchat In my schl best PD is done when we sit in cross-curricular groups&share gd ideas.I introduced Twitter this way. |
9:37 pm | Marisa_C: | @steve__kirk #eltchat woul dbe good if you supplied a link to that reference pls |
9:37 pm | sram_socrates: | @DaveDodgson the issue of blocking and security is big #eltchat – was the topic of dis yesterday in #edchat |
9:37 pm | steve__kirk: | ‘visitors’ see the web as ‘tools’. Residents see it as participatory spaces. Is this the problem? Ts as visitors?? #eltchat |
9:37 pm | Marisa_C: | Wow my co mods rock! #ELTchat |
9:37 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @informed_edu: #eltchat In my school our best PD is done when we sit in cross-curricular groups and share good ideas. I introduced Twitter this way. |
9:37 pm | sram_socrates: | RT @cybraryman1: RT @sandymillin: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions #ELTchat YET, but hopefully it will be #Eltchat |
9:38 pm | bcnpaul1: | @Marisa_C :)) #eltchat |
9:38 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C Introduced on our last day to tech, I find it true.Got lots of sites I didn’t know wht to do with!Maybe more emphasis on #ELTchat? |
9:38 pm | bcnpaul1: | my feet have gone to sleep #eltchat |
9:38 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @Marisa_C: Wow my co mods rock! #ELTchat |
9:38 pm | DaveDodgson: | @bcnpaul1 Yep, Twitter is blocked, Facebook isn’t – what does that tell you? #ELTchat |
9:38 pm | steve__kirk: | How can we help Ts move from visitor to resident status for PD? #eltchat |
9:38 pm | sandymillin: | @bcnpaul1 #eltchat as long as your typing fingers are still awake, doesn’t matter π |
9:38 pm | bcnpaul1: | @DaveDodgson that’s really interesting #eltchat |
9:38 pm | vickyloras: | RT @carlaraguseo EVO linkΒ http://tinyurl.com/29wrpdj #ELTchat |
9:38 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @carlaraguseo: Online PD in general is not recognized by institutions, but it may lead to a new professional performance #ELTchat |
9:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou On your course difficult – your 2 tutors were very anti-edtech but in future courses being v careful abt it now #ELTchat |
9:39 pm | esolcourses: | @gret @cybraryman1 good idea! @barbsaka has a great starter PLN list of friendly, helpful educators as wellΒ http://bit.ly/9ojtBB #ELTChat |
9:39 pm | bcnpaul1: | do ppl use facebook for PD? #eltchat |
9:39 pm | wellingtonros: | RT @DaveDodgson: @bcnpaul1 Yep, Twitter is blocked, Facebook isn’t – what does that tell you? #ELTchat same for the at school…it’s s*** |
9:39 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: true online not recognised – can’t imagine getting brownies for clocking into twitter – and YET it’s all happening HERE! #ELTchat |
9:39 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @bcnpaul1 I’m starting to Paul…still not sure how to do it #eltchat |
9:39 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: do ppl use facebook for PD? #eltchat > I organise quite a lot of it on FB |
9:39 pm | carlaraguseo: | @sandymillin #ELTchat In Spain they’ve been working on a petitionΒ http://tinyurl.com/2ubc7zf haven’t heard of anything like that in #Arg |
9:39 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @esolcourses: @gret @cybraryman1 good idea! @barbsaka has a great starter PLN list of friendly, helpful educators as wellΒ http://bit.ly/9ojtBB #ELTChat |
9:39 pm | bcnpaul1: | @wellingtonros welcome to #eltchat π |
9:40 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C Wow my co mods rock! #ELTchat >>Mwah! |
9:40 pm | willycard: | On the other hand, Twitter discussions/chats lack continuity, follow-up. It wld b good e.g. to have this same #ELTchat l8er 2 assess its use |
9:40 pm | cybraryman1: | Have a Smackdown session showing great tools and sitesΒ http://cybraryman.com/smackdown.html#Eltchat |
9:40 pm | sram_socrates: | @europeaantje Yes, but if you come to your first twit convo session and try to keep up it is very fast and intimidating #eltchat |
9:40 pm | europeaantje: | @steve__kirk think one can develop by being a visitor to the web, admittedly faster when a resident. for me twas a normal evolution #eltchat |
9:40 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @willycard: On the other hand, Twitter discussions/chats lack continuity, follow-up. It wld b good e.g. to have this same #ELTchat l8er 2 assess its use |
9:40 pm | Marisa_C: | @willycard do you mean twice in a row? #ELTchat |
9:40 pm | sandymillin: | RT @bcnpaul1: @wellingtonros welcome to #eltchat π |
9:41 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cybraryman1: Have a Smackdown session showing great tools and sitesΒ http://bit.ly/f29Lpx#Eltchat >smackdown.. taht’s a new word for me |
9:41 pm | steve__kirk: | Digital visitors and residents linkΒ http://bit.ly/2eMR7u #eltchat |
9:41 pm | sandymillin: | RT @sram_socrates: @europeaantje but come to your first twit convo session and try to keep up it is very fast and intimidating #eltchat |
9:41 pm | DaveDodgson: | @willycard But we do have the podcast & several people following up discussions with blog posts… #ELTchat |
9:41 pm | vickyloras: | Twitter, Facebook (I’ve seen,not on it), Skype,chat rooms,anything tech can help forward PD #ELTChat |
9:41 pm | Marisa_C: | @sram_socrates you should see what happened to me on my first moderation !!!! Even more confusing! But u do get used to it #eltchat |
9:41 pm | gret: | RT @vickyloras: Twitter, Facebook (I’ve seen,not on it), Skype,chat rooms,anything tech can help forward PD #ELTChat |
9:42 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @willycard They may lack continuity but many times they are a spark that may result in a blog post or a conference session #ELTchat |
9:42 pm | steve__kirk: | RT @europeaantje: @steve__kirk think one can develop by being a visitor to the web – me too, but we’re not the ‘problem’ !! #eltchat |
9:42 pm | bcnpaul1: | @sram_socrates keeping up with these convos is VERY difficult – luckily we have the transcript #eltchat |
9:42 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: @willycard do you mean twice in a row? #ELTchat or read the transcript? |
9:42 pm | wellingtonros: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @willycard They may lack continuity but many times they are a spark that may result in a blog post or a conference session #ELTchat |
9:42 pm | sram_socrates: | @Marisa_C Yes, was my experience my first time as well, but yes you have to work through it, works if you are ADHD #eltchat |
9:42 pm | chriscattaneo: | @Marisa_C @willycard #ELTchat Would have to be longer |
9:42 pm | willycard: | @Marisa_C no, I mean maybe a month later, so we can try things out, the ideas that come up, and give feedback. #ELTchat |
9:42 pm | Marisa_C: | @sram_socrates te he he π #eltchat |
9:42 pm | cybraryman1: | @steve__kirk There are different levels of digitalness and comfort with tech as well as access #Eltchat |
9:42 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ChrisCattaneo: @Marisa_C @willycard #ELTchat Would have to be longer <maybe 6 months later, summarise first convo, ask for progress |
9:43 pm | sandymillin: | RT @cybraryman1: @steve__kirk There are different levels of digitalness and comfort with tech as well as access #Eltchat |
9:43 pm | carlaraguseo: | @DaveDodgson @willycard The discussion is distributed across the web #ELTchat |
9:43 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @willycard They may lack continuity but many times they are a spark that may result in a blog post or a conference session #ELTchat |
9:43 pm | vickyloras: | RT @cecilialcoelho : @willycard They may lack continuity but many times are spark that may result in a blog post or a conf session #ELTchat |
9:43 pm | Marisa_C: | @willycard I think perhaps u might have a point – a blog post would be good to summarise main points bt we often don’t have time #ELTchat |
9:43 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @vickyloras: RT @cecilialcoelho : @willycard They may lack continuity but many times are spark that may result in a blog post or a conf session #ELTchat |
9:43 pm | willycard: | #ELTchat For example, today we talked about material development and there were great ideas. Ideally, we’d try ’em out and then talk about |
9:44 pm | LukeMeddings: | I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat |
9:44 pm | sram_socrates: | @bcnpaul1 true, but when I first tried , I was like I need some red bull – then I was informed about the transcript – helpful #eltchat |
9:44 pm | sandymillin: | RT @willycard: #ELTchat For example, today we talked about material development Ideally, we’d try ’em out and then talk about <yes |
9:44 pm | gret: | RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat |
9:44 pm | europeaantje: | RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat |
9:44 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat >me too |
9:44 pm | sandymillin: | RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-that’s how they came alive for me #eltchat <always the ‘where 2 start’ |
9:44 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @willycard @ChrisCattaneo I like the idea Willy / Chris. A schedule ELTChat feedback chat #ELTchat |
9:44 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin @willycard If #ELTchatters offer we could ask for occasional volunteering to sum up discussions #ELTchat |
9:44 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @gret: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-thats how they came alive for me #Eltchat |
9:45 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recmmend using blogs & Twitter together-that’s how they came alive 4 me #eltchat >me too > me three |
9:45 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cecilialcoelho: @willycard @ChrisCattaneo I like the idea Willy / Chris. A schedule ELTChat feedback chat #ELTchat > great idea |
9:45 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat would be willing to try to sum up! @Marisa_C |
9:45 pm | vickyloras: | @willycard That would be great,to try out ideas and then talk about them to demonstrate how they worked out #ELTChat |
9:45 pm | sram_socrates: | @bcnpaul1 Would agree with that suggestion – It also helps to have a mentor to ask questions to #eltchat |
9:45 pm | SueannaN: | I’ve just been helping Beyza in Turkey with her Doctoral research via Skype. Without my online pD would never have imagined that #eltCHAT |
9:45 pm | esolcourses: | RT @cybraryman1: RT @gret: RT @LukeMeddings: I always recommend using blogs and Twitter together-thats how they came alive for me #Eltchat |
9:45 pm | steve__kirk: | @sandymillin tech vs access: absolutely, but many of my colleagues see only the ‘tech’ & not the pedagogical/PD possibilities #eltchat |
9:46 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @LukeMeddings I do feel blogging is even more intimidating than ELTChat / twitter / Commenting on blogs all together #eltchat |
9:46 pm | Xiniaa: | The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat@Marisa_C |
9:46 pm | JoshSRound: | @LukeMeddings True, twitter & blogs go together very well…Just another addition to potential info overload though. #eltchat |
9:46 pm | europeaantje: | @steve__kirk IMO diff btw visitor – resident is the communication/conversation. will watch vid later again #eltchat |
9:46 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @SueAnnan: been helping Beyza in Turkewith her Doctoral research via Skype. Without my online pD would never have imagined that #eltCHAT |
9:46 pm | gret: | @LukeMeddings That’s how I got engaged too. Lurking, slowly getting involved, commenting and few months later I was writing my blog #ELTChat |
9:46 pm | sandymillin: | @cecilialcoelho @lukemeddings #eltchat not necessarily blogging, just reading blogs |
9:46 pm | bcnpaul1: | @JoshSRound that’s the key isn’t it -PD without overload #eltchat |
9:46 pm | DaveDodgson: | Another issue with showing your PLN to someone is that they want the same thing immediately but of course building a PLN takes time #ELTchat |
9:47 pm | Marisa_C: | I think repeats can get messy – never sure if same people will turn up etc #ELTchat then u say same stuff all over again – cont. |
9:47 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @SueAnnan Agree Sue… Am currently in Yorkshire on a PD Workshop that would never had happened w/o my being on twitter #eltCHAT |
9:47 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat @Marisa_C |
9:47 pm | cybraryman1: | From tweets & chats I capture great sites My ELL EFL ESL pageshttp://cybraryman.com/eflellesl.html #Eltchat |
9:47 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat | online PD also tech factor? |
9:47 pm | esolcourses: | @cybraryman1 @cecilialcoelho @bcnpaul1 @gret @LukeMeddings find Twitter seems to spark a fair number of my blog posts off #ELTChat |
9:47 pm | willycard: | @ChrisCattaneo @Marisa_C re: time , someone said earlier that this is not really an issue : -) … but it is #ELTchat |
9:47 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @sandymillin @lukemeddings Ok… reading blogs and twitter sound like a good combo #eltchat |
9:47 pm | DaveDodgson: | @gret I was the opposite! Started my blog, lurked on Twitter and then started tweeting π #ELTchat |
9:47 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @esolcourses Same here Sue! #ELTChat |
9:48 pm | cecilialcoelho: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Xiniaa: The main obstacle for online PD is the resistance to change irrelevant of age or culture #ELTchat @Marisa_C |
9:48 pm | vbenevolofranca: | RT @gret: @LukeMeddings That’s how I got engaged too. Lurking, slowly getting involved, commenting and few months later I was writing my blog #ELTChat |
9:48 pm | steve__kirk: | @ChrisCattaneo I can’t help thinking time is sth we ‘make’ not ‘have’. If there’s a spark of motiv in online PD, ppl will make time #eltchat |
9:48 pm | bcnpaul1: | @esolcourses definitely agree that twitter sparks blogposts #eltchat |
9:48 pm | europeaantje: | @DaveDodgson reaction I had was people were daunted by it & didnΒ΄t want to get involved so far #ELTchat |
9:48 pm | SueannaN: | @cecilialcoelho hope you’re having a great time with Berni #eltCHAT |
9:48 pm | europeaantje: | @DaveDodgson “it” being the PLN #ELTchat |
9:48 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @steve__kirk: @ChrisCattaneo I can’t help thinking time is sth we ‘make’ not ‘have’. If there’s a spark , ppl will make time #eltchat |
9:48 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @SueAnnan Sure am! She turned me into Beelzebub tonight! π #eltCHAT |
9:49 pm | JoshSRound: | @bcnpaul1 Yep, becoming an Effective twitter PLN user is the goal. The journey getting there is tricky but fun, tho! #eltchat |
9:49 pm | vickyloras: | RT @steve__kirk: @ChrisCattaneo I can’t help thinking time is sth we ‘make’ not ‘have’. If there’s a spark of motiv in online PD, ppl will make time #eltchat |
9:49 pm | SueannaN: | @cecilialcoelho Of course, you were mumming, weren’t you #eltCHAT |
9:49 pm | esolcourses: | @bcnpaul1 @cecilialcoelho went off and started writing one after today’s #ELTChat earlier on, in fact… (to be continued π |
9:49 pm | DaveDodgson: | @europeaantje I’ve been advertising your #rscon11 session at my school – perhaps you can do better than me to get them started! #ELTchat |
9:49 pm | Marisa_C: | @JoshSRound #eltchat quite exciting isn’t it ? @ErenNesrin π |
9:50 pm | gret: | @DaveDodgson I’d been meaning to start blogging for many years… it was my PLN that inspired me to take that huge step. #ELTChat |
9:50 pm | bcnpaul1: | I think busy teachers cd be less busy if they were on twitter w/so many links to resources #eltchat |
9:50 pm | cecilialcoelho: | @SueAnnan Of course…. brilliant performances all around π @rliberni was a perfect audience! #eltCHAT |
9:50 pm | gret: | RT @bcnpaul1: I think busy teachers cd be less busy if they were on twitter w/so many links to resources #eltchat –> agreed! |
9:50 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @gret: @DaveDodgson Id been meaning to start blogging for many years… it was my PLN that inspired me to take that huge step. #Eltchat |
9:50 pm | DaveDodgson: | @gret And a good thing you did! #ELTchat |
9:51 pm | SueannaN: | RT @bcnpaul1: @esolcourses definitely agree that twitter sparks blogposts #eltchat |
9:51 pm | europeaantje: | @DaveDodgson inshallah #rscon11 #ELTchat |
9:51 pm | bcnpaul1: | @esolcourses look forward to reading it – i’m trying too but slow getting into the new year π #eltchat |
10:00 pm | cybraryman1: | Most ppl start as lurkers as I did Keep sharing great resurces #Eltchat |
10:00 pm | europeaantje: | @Marisa_C share bookmarks with colleagues. my favouritwe for this google bookmarks on the desktop #ELTchat |
10:00 pm | carlaraguseo: | I opened a Wiki to build a collection of lessons after a Computer lab workshop to show their contributions mattered #ELTchat |
10:00 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ErenNesrin: @Marisa_C sharing or trying out an idea in trainings, and then telling them the source:) #eltchat > Yes! |
10:00 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11 this weekend! #ELTchat |
10:00 pm | steve__kirk: | RT @SueAnnan: @ErenNesrin Personal Learning Network or Prfessional L N – PEOPLE learning ntwk! #eltchat |
10:00 pm | JoshSRound: | Thanks all for great #eltchat. Look forward to transcript & podcast. next step is to run school inset and use some of your splendid ideas π |
10:00 pm | chucksandy: | RT @cybraryman1: Most ppl start as lurkers as I did Keep sharing great resurces #Eltchat |
10:00 pm | LukeMeddings: | Easy to assume people know more than they do-Twit-blogland a bit of a hothouse,think I’ll give it more time in my training in 2011 #eltchat |
10:01 pm | ErenNesrin: | @DaveDodgson @Marisa_C #ELTchat I do the same! Emailing works well:) |
10:01 pm | SueannaN: | RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11 this weekend! #ELTchat |
10:01 pm | sandymillin: | @evab2001 #eltchat – silent for a year is OK – when we speak a language as kids, we can be silent for 2 and it doesn’t matter π |
10:01 pm | chriscattaneo: | RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11 this weekend! #ELTchat |
10:01 pm | vickyloras: | RT @JoshSRound: Thanks all for great #eltchat. Look forward to transcript & podcast. next step is to run school inset and use some of your splendid ideas π |
10:01 pm | chucksandy: | RT @sandymillin: @evab2001 #eltchat – silent for a year is OK – when we speak a language as kids, we can be silent for 2 and it doesn’t matter π |
10:01 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11this weekend! #ELTchat |
10:01 pm | Marisa_C: | @LukeMeddings Have been trying to integrate it more and more in y training courses too Luke – as time goes by – #eltchat |
10:01 pm | sandymillin: | RT @LukeMeddings: Easy to assume people know more than they do- #eltchat Most ppl at my school heard of Twitter 4 1st time when I joined! |
10:02 pm | evab2001: | @sandymillin u r 2 kind, LOL #eltchat |
10:02 pm | gret: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @DaveDodgson: And dont forget to tell your offline colleagues about #rscon11this weekend! #ELTchat |
10:02 pm | Marisa_C: | @LukeMeddings #eltchat You need early start on training courses so it become ordinary not extraordinary #ELTchat |
10:02 pm | SueannaN: | Don’t you all hate when it’s time to stop? Fantastic #ELTchat as always. Many thanks to the moderators who did a fine job |
10:02 pm | europeaantje: | RT @SueannaN: Don’t you all hate when it’s time to stop? Fantastic #ELTchat as always. Many thanks to the moderators who did a fine job |
10:03 pm | sandymillin: | RT @SueannaN: Don’t you all hate when it’s time to stop? Fantastic #ELTchat as always. Many thanks to the moderators who did a fine job |
10:03 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings Have been trying to integrate it more and more in y training courses too Luke – as time goes by – #eltchat me 2 |
10:03 pm | chriscattaneo: | agree ?@Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings #eltchat You need early start on training courses so it become ordinary not extraordinary #ELTchat? |
10:03 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: @LukeMeddings #eltchat You need early start on training courses so it become ordinary not extraordinary #ELTchat |
10:03 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C:@LukeMeddings trying integrate it more and more in training courses too Luke – as time goes by – #eltchat slowly chipping away |
10:03 pm | cecilialcoelho: | Thank you all for another ideas-filled #ELTChat! Always a great moment of the day. |
10:03 pm | vickyloras: | I’m the broken record of the school – I keep telling them about online PD until they get tired of me! ha ha! #ELTChat |
10:03 pm | gret: | @DaveDodgson Speaking of meaningful PD! Can’t miss #rscon11 on Sat, Jan 8th!Β http://bit.ly/bIH6Dp#ELTChat |
10:04 pm | Marisa_C: | Thank you all for a great conversation and special thanks to @bcnpaul1 and @vickyloras for helping this lone moderator tonight ! #ELTchat |
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